[Elie335]

Originally Posted by Overboost

Tracking the car shouldn't be a big issue. What's the purpose of selling performance steering wheels, seats, suspension etc for a car if BMW doesn't expect someone to drive it spiritedly at some point. The steering wheel even has a built in lap timer if I am correct. Shouldn't be denied for that reason given the OP is still under warranty.

I like your point

[EastBayE90]

I am local in the Bay Area. I found an engine that has 41,000 miles on it. It is going for $6,700 plus tax. It comes with a 6 month unlimited mileage warranty on parts only not the labor. The turbos are not included in this price. Let me know if things don't work out I can find any engine, any time.

[trackMonkey]

Originally Posted by (-(ellblazer420

I am local in the Bay Area. I found an engine that has 41,000 miles on it. It is going for $6,700 plus tax. It comes with a 6 month unlimited mileage warranty on parts only not the labor. The turbos are not included in this price. Let me know if things don't work out I can find any engine, any time.

thanks! I'll send you a PM if it comes down to that. it's been quite a stressful experience so far.

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115

Hmm.....over revs at high speed, high G's corners? This is yet another reason why the 6AT OWN3Ds at the track!

Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

You're right, cause you sorry 6AT owners can't pull high G's so you have nothing to worry about.

Right... now all you guys all have to worry about is limping b/c of heat issues w AT...

MT FTW!

[Turkeybaster115]

Originally Posted by tibra1

Right... now all you guys all have to worry about is limping b/c of heat issues w AT...

MT FTW!

Skip to 4:44!

Money shifting proof 6AT FTMFW!

[norcal_cyclist]

Turn 2 at Thunderhill is notorious for killing BMW engines. It's a long sweeper that's fed by a VERY high speed left (turn1). The BMW 6 leans to the right and if you're lacking a baffle to prevent oil from creeping up the side of the block you're asking for trouble. All our race motors are fitted with crank scrapers / baffles that prevent oil from migrating up the right side of the engine.

We have never lost an engine due to starvation at Laguna, Sears Point, Reno Fernley etc. this is unique to Thunderhill running in the counterclockwise direction

OP - you're not going to ge them to cover your motor, move on and get a used engine. When the engine went it was sending molten metal and shards of aluminum into the exhaust which ruined the turbo's. It is not unheard of and BMWNA can tell what happened and probably WHERE if your car has nav or SOS.

[zeenon53]

Originally Posted by (-(ellblazer420

I am local in the Bay Area. I found an engine that has 41,000 miles on it. It is going for $6,700 plus tax. It comes with a 6 month unlimited mileage warranty on parts only not the labor. The turbos are not included in this price. Let me know if things don't work out I can find any engine, any time.

Do this and get yourself a set of RB turbo's.

[rudypoochris]

Good luck man. I am not trying to defend BMW. No manufacturer is going to cover you over revving the car and putting the car through race conditions. You say the car isn't a track car then say you tracked it.

Originally Posted by modMonkey

This is not a track car either nor has it ever been in a race. If bmw does not want any car to be driven on the track they should have it written down in the warranty statement? Plus BMW also has an organization and program to promote driving schools?

They promote driving school so that you don't over rev the engine...

Enjoying the car is one thing. Abusing it is another. You can't modify your car, put it on the track, race it around and then expect BMW to pay for it. It is outside the confines of the warranty. Once again NO manufacturer is going to warranty a car that you are racing. If you get lucky and trick them into thinking you wern't, good - but ask any of them and they aren't going to stand by it if they know you're doing it.

It simply is NOT a race car... you can't race it and expect it to hold up. It isnt marketed as such.

[boom]

Originally Posted by boom

Www.car-part.com

Several engines for $3500.

ummm.. Hellooooo.... $3500 for a used motor.

from car-part.com
2008
Engine
BMW 335 i 6 MONTHS WARRANTY EXCHANGE BM111022 $3500 All Automotive Imports, Inc. USA-TX(Houston) Request_Quote 866-941-0651 / 713-941-3377

[dbjb]

Originally Posted by rudypoochris

Good luck man. I am not trying to defend BMW. No manufacturer is going to cover you over revving the car and putting the car through race conditions. You say the car isn't a track car then say you tracked it.



They promote driving school so that you don't over rev the engine...

Enjoying the car is one thing. Abusing it is another. You can't modify your car, put it on the track, race it around and then expect BMW to pay for it. It is outside the confines of the warranty. Once again NO manufacturer is going to warranty a car that you are racing. If you get lucky and trick them into thinking you wern't, good - but ask any of them and they aren't going to stand by it if they know you're doing it.

It simply is NOT a race car... you can't race it and expect it to hold up. It isnt marketed as such.

You're a funny guy. Just because he's taken it to the track, that doesn't means he "races" it constantly. Did I miss a post where the OP stated otherwise? There are many people out there that enjoy their car for things other than commuting and picking up the kids. You assume way too much and you know what they say about assuming...

BMW might not market this as a track car but then again...

[dbjb]

Now, I do have a question for the OP.

You have a MT, correct? Turn 2 is about 12 seconds at 65-70mph. Were you in 2nd or 3rd? 2nd redlines at 70. That would be harsh. 3rd would be more appropriate and I believe around 3500-4500 rpms. At that engine speed, I would hope it could withstand a sustained .6 lateral G's. Perhaps that's the inherent weakness of the I6.

[Turkeybaster115]

Guys, OP money shifted several times @ the track, with BMW pulling said data from his car. It's a familiar situation, and they all end with a rejected warranty repair:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=money+shift

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...+engine+damage

[dbjb]

Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115

Guys, OP money shifted several times @ the track, with BMW pulling said data from his car. It's a familiar situation, and they all end with a rejected warranty repair:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=money+shift

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...+engine+damage

How do you know this to be the case? Or just speculation?

[tibra1]

Its clear we dont have the whole story here..the fact is that an overwhelming majority of engine failure is due to driver error or negligence..

[Trojan4evr]

Originally Posted by techlogik

Of course, if you owe money on the car..stop making the payment, who cares, it is worthless now, walk away and let the bank deal with it. Hey, it is the Obama way!

I've read this whole thread and this qualifies for the stupidest comment. Americans were living over their means way before Obama. The whole Housing bubble busted before him. We spent way too much money on wars. So before pulling shit out of your ass and just throwing it out there do some research.

OP' good luck man because you need it.

[rudypoochris]

Originally Posted by dsbj

You're a funny guy. Just because he's taken it to the track, that doesn't means he "races" it constantly. Did I miss a post where the OP stated otherwise? There are many people out there that enjoy their car for things other than commuting and picking up the kids. You assume way too much and you know what they say about assuming...

BMW might not market this as a track car but then again...

Why am I funny? I never said he races it constantly... you don't have to race it constantly to void your warranty... Participating in a competitive event. He was at the track...

I am 23. I have no kids and I drive the hell out of my 335i. What I don't do is over rev it, drive in a manner that harms the car, or plan on going for money back from BMW if I drive the piss out of it on a track and the engine grenades. I enjoy it for what it is... if you want a track car, be ready to maintain a track car.

[Mahhvinn]

Hey ModMonkey, were you the blue E92 a week or two ago at THill? My friend said he saw a blue E92 pull of the track because of a blown motor. o_O

[trackMonkey]

Originally Posted by dsbj

Now, I do have a question for the OP.

You have a MT, correct? Turn 2 is about 12 seconds at 65-70mph. Were you in 2nd or 3rd? 2nd redlines at 70. That would be harsh. 3rd would be more appropriate and I believe around 3500-4500 rpms. At that engine speed, I would hope it could withstand a sustained .6 lateral G's. Perhaps that's the inherent weakness of the I6.

3rd gear of course. And no, i have not money shifted the car once. If that were to happen the engine would have blown up instantly.

[zsapphire7]

sorry for your loss OP . in addition to BBB, you can also try the FTC. Like everyone else says, try to avoid a costly lawyer.

http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/contact.shtm

[dbjb]

Originally Posted by rudypoochris

Why am I funny? I never said he races it constantly... you don't have to race it constantly to void your warranty... Participating in a competitive event. He was at the track...

I am 23. I have no kids and I drive the hell out of my 335i. What I don't do is over rev it, drive in a manner that harms the car, or plan on going for money back from BMW if I drive the piss out of it on a track and the engine grenades. I enjoy it for what it is... if you want a track car, be ready to maintain a track car.

You said race. To me, racing is competitive driving against the clock or other drivers. Simply going to a track event doesn't and shouldn't be considered racing. My guess is you have never attended a HPDE. Common misconception.

[Bimmer100_]

Originally Posted by modMonkey

3rd gear of course. And no, i have not money shifted the car once. If that were to happen the engine would have blown up instantly.

Not true. Please don't use that "excuse" with BMW because that will get you no where, plus the fact that the mis-shifts are recorded. If I were you, I would have gone to the dealership and explain the situation (in a clam respectful manner). Then I would have asked politely if they would be able to cover the expenses out of "good-will" or perhaps ask BMWUSA to cover the labor while you covered the parts. Worst that could have happened was that they say NO and you end up in the same situation you are in now.

[rudypoochris]

Originally Posted by dsbj

You said race. To me, racing is competitive driving against the clock or other drivers. Simply going to a track event doesn't and shouldn't be considered racing. My guess is you have never attended a HPDE. Common misconception.

I understand how you see it. It just isn't the way most people see it or the way the authorities at hand will see it. So which matters more?