PTF UPDATE: 553WHP 631WTQ - N54 TwinTurbo World Record

Tiago@VRSF · 11-13-2012, 09:19 PM

Torque breaks/wears parts out quickly. Keep that in mind.

Ænema · 11-13-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DefactoM6

zomg, cpwinch and turbomike, have your s65 powerband, and enjoy it. You should also enjoy the look of my tail lights growing further and further away from you as 631 lb/ft puts trains on you...

+1000
To be completely honest, as far as power under the curve is concerned the s65 dyno is the one that looks like shit.

turb0mik3 · 11-13-2012, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DefactoM6

zomg, cpwinch and turbomike, have your s65 powerband, and enjoy it. You should also enjoy the look of my tail lights growing further and further away from you as 631 lb/ft puts trains on you...

LOL. Sure, put this car up against that supercharged S65 and we will see who wins in a sprint while you are spinning tire with your awesome 630 torque...

blackshan · 11-13-2012, 09:42 PM

Really happy that this motor is still being pushed for more power with different set-ups!!

DefactoM6 · 11-13-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Torque breaks/wears parts out quickly. Keep that in mind.

As I said on the other forum...if 631-670wtq can actually last on this car and others...we will legitimately lay claim to something the much fapped-over VR38DETT can't...the ability to hold over 600wtq on a stock bottom end.

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Originally Posted by Ænema

+1000
To be completely honest, as far as power under the curve is concerned the s65 dyno is the one that looks like shit.

I see your +1,000 and raise you x10.

jpsimon · 11-13-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by turb0mike

LOL. Sure, put this car up against that supercharged S65 and we will see who wins in a sprint while you are spinning tire with your awesome 630 torque...

some of us have awd

CPWINCH · 11-13-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DefactoM6

zomg, cpwinch and turbomike, have your s65 powerband, and enjoy it. You should also enjoy the look of my tail lights growing further and further away from you as 631 lb/ft puts trains on you...

lol I remember when i was 16 and only cared about straight line power

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Originally Posted by turb0mike

LOL. Sure, put this car up against that supercharged S65 and we will see who wins in a sprint while you are spinning tire with your awesome 630 torque...

+1 and lets see whose tailights you see when you are on a real race track not a straight line

Ænema · 11-13-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by turb0mike

LOL. Sure, put this car up against that supercharged S65 and we will see who wins in a sprint while you are spinning tire with your awesome 630 torque...

Lol I'll put $100 on the 335i to win by 5 car links in a 60-130 pull

ichi_ban · 11-13-2012, 09:56 PM

TQ curve is not impressive as it dips quickly. Nice numbers though.

Stucks · 11-13-2012, 10:15 PM

"Dude my E92 M3 puts down so much torque on the dyno."

Said no one ever.

Beemw335 · 11-13-2012, 10:17 PM

Very impressive numbers, but it sucks having the power fall on its face, you would have to shift so early, and it just takes all the fun away.

shaginwagon13 · 11-13-2012, 10:33 PM

I heard from Ivo the shop spent over 35 hours machining this engine.... good God.

When he started it up, it sounded like a monster thats all I have to say.

DefactoM6 · 11-13-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CPWINCH

lol I remember when i was 16 and only cared about straight line power

+1 and lets see whose tailights you see when you are on a real race track not a straight line

Don't worry, my right foot is only one part of a body which wins consitently behind the wheel.

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Originally Posted by Ænema

Lol I'll put $100 on the 335i to win by 5 car links in a 60-130 pull

+1, I can personally attest to this, and I most certainly am not putting down 630wtq.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stucks

"Dude my E92 M3 puts down so much torque on the dyno."

Said no one ever.

LOL

joec500 · 11-14-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmacc

some beautiful half-shaft snapping torque right here!

SHUT YOUR FACE

trbolexis · 11-14-2012, 12:44 AM

Yeaa ... thanks for that btw ...

/troll

Nice numbers, but this is a record for RBs and not N54's, right?

Dmacc · 11-14-2012, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by joec500

SHUT YOUR FACE

Are you going to end up replacing the stock ones? or just going to replace the broken one with another stock one?

E92murdered · 11-14-2012, 01:18 AM

great #'s what clutch is he running now?

CaptainInsano · 11-14-2012, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by trbolexis

Yeaa ... thanks for that btw ...

/troll

Nice numbers, but this is a record for RBs and not N54's, right?

Might be a torque record. My car made 657whp with an E85 mix.

hellrotm · 11-14-2012, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

"Dude my E92 M3 puts down so much torque on the dyno."

Said no one ever.

Honestly, who cares. A supercharged M3 was raping cars at the Shift Sector event.

Stucks · 11-14-2012, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Honestly, who cares. A supercharged M3 was raping cars at the Shift Sector event.

I think the problem here is that people are looking at a DYNO sheet and trying to pull performance numbers/speculation out of it. Over simplifying hurts.

Its a dyno sheet. Its got prob the most torque ever seen on an N54. Show kudos to ptf for DYNOing those numbers and move on. If people wanna complain about how the powerband won't make the car fast, ect, then wait until he posts up a thread about vbox numbers or dragstrip numbers. Maybe the car will fall flat on its face? Maybe the car will be so fast it will travel back in time at 88mph? Until then, stop nitpicking this. Over and out.

Jake@MOTIV · 11-14-2012, 06:37 AM

The great thing about a car is that you modulate power output with your foot. If someone wants to overlay the dynos of Dzenno's car on top of that supercharged M3 dyno you will see how the tq (although not flat) still is well above the tq of the flat curve from the m3.

The point of this dyno post was to show where the car is going with some tuning (not finished) on a ported head and where that can take us. As we add more timing to the top end and shift setpoints and boost a little further north you will see things flatten out.

When the tune is finished we will post the curve up again. We will be going on to e85, ms109, and different mixes and matches of these with meth as well to push the car and see what it is capable of. You all know Dzenno is not gentle with the car and you will see any and all info as he beats on it and records data for everyone to benefit from.

jayzF30 · 11-14-2012, 06:41 AM

I was with Dzenno last night in his car and the car is something from another dimension. It is truly scary fast when that torque mountain picks you up and carries you like a huge wave of power and yet it does it ever so smoothly too. I love torque and especially down lower, gets the mass of the car moving. On the street this car will really put to shame many seriously fast cars.

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ichi_ban Major 36 Rep 1,019 Posts Drives: X6 50i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: FL iTrader: (24)	TQ curve is not impressive as it dips quickly. Nice numbers though. __________________ @ichi_ban
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Stucks Lieutenant Colonel 171 Rep 1,908 Posts Drives: 2017 F30 340i Xdrive Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Montgomery County, MD iTrader: (12)	"Dude my E92 M3 puts down so much torque on the dyno." Said no one ever. __________________ Current: 2017 F30 340i xdrive Previous: 2008 e92 335i coupe: RB turbos, mach 116 race fuel, methanol, alot of boost. Previous: 2003 Honda Accord V6 coupe: AEM V2, zex 75 wet shot (sold)
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Beemw335 Colonel 62 Rep 2,013 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: My car is my home iTrader: (2)	Very impressive numbers, but it sucks having the power fall on its face, you would have to shift so early, and it just takes all the fun away.
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shaginwagon13 Chartered Accountant 64 Rep 970 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (4)	I heard from Ivo the shop spent over 35 hours machining this engine.... good God. When he started it up, it sounded like a monster thats all I have to say.
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trbolexis Private 0 Rep 74 Posts Drives: Lexus IS300 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Yeaa ... thanks for that btw ... /troll Nice numbers, but this is a record for RBs and not N54's, right?
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Jake@MOTIV Captain 83 Rep 949 Posts Drives: 135i, 335i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MD & NC iTrader: (7)	The great thing about a car is that you modulate power output with your foot. If someone wants to overlay the dynos of Dzenno's car on top of that supercharged M3 dyno you will see how the tq (although not flat) still is well above the tq of the flat curve from the m3. The point of this dyno post was to show where the car is going with some tuning (not finished) on a ported head and where that can take us. As we add more timing to the top end and shift setpoints and boost a little further north you will see things flatten out. When the tune is finished we will post the curve up again. We will be going on to e85, ms109, and different mixes and matches of these with meth as well to push the car and see what it is capable of. You all know Dzenno is not gentle with the car and you will see any and all info as he beats on it and records data for everyone to benefit from.
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jayzF30 Captain 34 Rep 783 Posts Drives: '07 335i, '09 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Thornhill iTrader: (0)	I was with Dzenno last night in his car and the car is something from another dimension. It is truly scary fast when that torque mountain picks you up and carries you like a huge wave of power and yet it does it ever so smoothly too. I love torque and especially down lower, gets the mass of the car moving. On the street this car will really put to shame many seriously fast cars. __________________ '07 335i E90 - PTF ProTUNED by Dzenno - COBB FMIC - AFE DCI - AA DPs - HFS4 Meth '09 M3 - Stock
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