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[YoungALaw]

Procede + FBO. First mod I made under the hood and been on the car for 15k miles...Not a single problem since. Love the Auto-tune feature and boost control. Props to team Vishnu!

[bryce]

Originally Posted by skim7x

Interestingly, thus far only 1% of Cobb and 1% of JB users who voted have been vocal on this thread about their tune. Meanwhile, 19% of PROcede users have been vocal about their tune.

Does this say something about customer satisfaction?

exact fucking ly

Originally Posted by BMWsky

I'd say just the opposite. The piggyback tunes have been been around on this platform much longer than a flash like Cobb and are more convenient than GIAC or Dinan (not having to bring the car in). My guess is that if this poll was posted a year ago, Cobb would've had much less marketshare. It would be interesting to see what this poll looks like a year from now. The good news is that WE benefit from the tuners pushing the progess of this platform.

yes, this poll will look interesting in another year. my estimate:

-more single turbo cars running vishnu than any other tuning platform
-more features innovated by procede, copied by burger tuning
-cobb ATR/ATP rolls out with pretty wide spread usage
-GIAC, Dinan fall off the map

Originally Posted by YoungALaw

Procede + FBO. First mod I made under the hood and been on the car for 15k miles...Not a single problem since. Love the Auto-tune feature and boost control. Props to team Vishnu!

[Randomaccess335]

JB4/Meth/FBO
I am sure the other tunes are also great, but for me it's JB4 and see no reason to change.
As everyone already knows Terry has the best customer service.

[Chicks-Love-Bimmers]

When I had the JB4 and DCI, the power felt good, but wasn't as consistent. I felt like the car wasn't as fast mid-range to top end. Don't get me wrong though, I liked how easy it was to change the settings and the gauge sweep was pretty cool at first. After switching to the Procede, I felt the car was much smoother and consistent on V4 with the same mods. I added in the Helix FMIC and upgraded to Rev 2.5 V5 and didn't even feel the loss of power I felt when I had the JB4. I felt the car pulled much smoother on the freeway from mid-range to top end. Also, there is way more things you can tweak with the Procede software like having no more wastegate rattles thanks to the ability to change the wastegate position.

[BFD99]

Originally Posted by skim7x

Interestingly, thus far only 1% of Cobb and 1% of JB users who voted have been vocal on this thread about their tune. Meanwhile, 19% of PROcede users have been vocal about their tune.

Does this say something about customer satisfaction?

Maybe there are just more Procede cheerleaders here? That what it seems to me. Procede Vs. JB4 seems like the old Coke vs. Pepsi debate to me. They both work well, and both do what the end user wants it seems?


JB4 + FBO + Meth here. I love it. Car trapped 116.4mph in the 1/4 without meth, so i know my car is making power.

[bryce]

^it's what you don't know that's important. how can you say jb4 is equal or better than procede if you've only owned jb4?

[bryce]

Originally Posted by Chicks-Love-Bimmers

When I had the JB4 and DCI, the power felt good, but wasn't as consistent. I felt like the car wasn't as fast mid-range to top end. Don't get me wrong though, I liked how easy it was to change the settings and the gauge sweep was pretty cool at first. After switching to the Procede, I felt the car was much smoother and consistent on V4 with the same mods. I added in the Helix FMIC and upgraded to Rev 2.5 V5 and didn't even feel the loss of power I felt when I had the JB4. I felt the car pulled much smoother on the freeway from mid-range to top end. Also, there is way more things you can tweak with the Procede software like having no more wastegate rattles thanks to the ability to change the wastegate position.

i wish procede had a better rep sometimes. people just think "it's a more expensive jb4, why bother?" when it's really SO much better.

[Redbmwm33]

JB4 does not need cheerleaders. It's performance and records speak for themselves. Not to mention Shiv's attitude and poor customer service.

I'm a former cobb and Procede owner.

[BFD99]

Originally Posted by bryce

^it's what you don't know that's important. how can you say jb4 is equal or better than procede if you've only owned jb4?

Where in my post did I say it was better? Only compared the debate to Pepsi and Coke?

[RnmEvo9]

I had JB4 and liked it, but sold it for financial reasons. Later on I 'borrowed' the Cobb from a friend and I liked it even better. In the end I strictly wanted pump gas power and I felt Cobb did a better job in that aspect, so when I was ready I bought the tune.

I run low 12's trapping 117mph consistently on pump 93 octane. I am more than happy.

[Redbmwm33]

RnmEvo I felt the exact same way and agree with you 100%. That was until the E85 map for jb4 was out and I had the chance to test it on my friends car. It's simply unmatched and I had to get my hands on it.

[themyst]

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

I had JB4 and liked it, but sold it for financial reasons. Later on I 'borrowed' the Cobb from a friend and I liked it even better. In the end I strictly wanted pump gas power and I felt Cobb did a better job in that aspect, so when I was ready I bought the tune.

I run low 12's trapping 117mph consistently on pump 93 octane. I am more than happy.

Plenty of people who can't even do that on meth with a piggyback.

[bryce]

Originally Posted by artsoasis

JB4 does not need cheerleaders. It's performance and records speak for themselves. Not to mention Shiv's attitude and poor customer service.

I'm a former cobb and Procede owner.

so you ran cobb accessport, vishnu procede, and jb4.......and you decided to sell the rest and keep the jb4?

[Redbmwm33]

Originally Posted by bryce

so you ran cobb accessport, vishnu procede, and jb4.......and you decided to sell the rest and keep the jb4?

I have just recently switched. I was sold with the e85 map. I'm literally 2 minutes away from an E85 station.

[aflatau]

JB4's customer service and support out weights everything else in the discussion. I have noticed several thread's where people would ask Shiv a tech question and they would be ignored completely. Which to me is a huge no no - JB4 has been a great product for me and any question I have asked Terry - I got a response promptly.

JB4 also released e85 maps before Proceede.. Don't get me wrong I am sure both are great products - but just simply due to the support and responses I get from Terry... Its a no brainer. Not to mention I have beat every other tuned 335i I have ran, Proceede.. cobb and another jb4.

[bryce]

procede has e85 maps.....your argument is invalid

[aflatau]

Originally Posted by bryce

procede has e85 maps.....your argument is invalid

I guess you missed the point of customer service.. Also where are these e85 maps? I thought they where not released to the public.

[bryce]

Originally Posted by aflatau

I guess you missed the point of customer service.. Also where are these e85 maps? I thought they where not released to the public.

i had a jb3, jb4, and i still like vishnu's customer service just fine. it's easy to get help or get questions answered by shiv and company

[bryce]

e85 maps are in beta

[Redbmwm33]

I didn't use E85 with procede, at the time there where no maps. The issues and customer service are what turned me away. I switched over to cobb for pump gas power and finally switched to JB4 for the E85 tune alone.

Not trying to argue btw.

[bryce]

cool