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      11-27-2006, 08:09 PM   #23
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Just curious, what wheels did you run? I noticed that the brake set up on the 335i 4dr were larger (and quite well built i must say too), and would play a small part on the amount of lip you can get on the front wheel which in turn would affect fitment.
ALTWheelsE90,

To answer your question, I got the Stern ST-1 "Beast". Beautiful wheels...check it out (http://www.need4speedmotors.com/inde...OD&ProdID=237). In the FR (18x8.5/ET+38) it has a 2.25" lip and the RR (18x9.5/ET+46) has a 3" lip.

If anyone has a 330i, it would be a perfect fit. The brake calipers on the 335i rub in the inside of the wheel. ANY 330i BUYERS??? The UPS guy is picking it up by 6pm tomorrow...you'll got til then to decide. $1500 with tires mounted and balanced. You pay for shipping (live in VA). Comes w/ top in the line FALKEN 512 All-Season UHP 235/40Z18 and 265/35Z18s. iF I can't use them, maybe someone else can use them on their 330i E90.

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When you click on the web address I submitted above, scroll down on "Manufacturer" and select STERN. Then click on the ST-1 Face III Beast picture.
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ALTWheelsE90,

To answer your question, I got the Stern ST-1 "Beast". Beautiful wheels...check it out (http://www.need4speedmotors.com/inde...OD&ProdID=237). In the FR (18x8.5/ET+38) it has a 2.25" lip and the RR (18x9.5/ET+46) has a 3" lip.

If anyone has a 330i, it would be a perfect fit. The brake calipers on the 335i rub in the inside of the wheel. ANY 330i BUYERS??? The UPS guy is picking it up by 6pm tomorrow...you'll got til then to decide. $1500 with tires mounted and balanced. You pay for shipping (live in VA). Comes w/ top in the line FALKEN 512 All-Season UHP 235/40Z18 and 265/35Z18s. iF I can't use them, maybe someone else can use them on their 330i E90.

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Now I see why your wheel is hitting. You definitely cannot get that much front lip on a 335i. My front wheel has only about an 1.25 inch lip. But the rear, hehe . . . is a different story. Thank god for RWD! Sorry to hear that your wheels wont fit. That is a nice style that looks good on a lot of cars.
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Now I see why your wheel is hitting. You definitely cannot get that much front lip on a 335i. My front wheel has only about an 1.25 inch lip. But the rear, hehe . . . is a different story. Thank god for RWD! Sorry to hear that your wheels wont fit. That is a nice style that looks good on a lot of cars.
Actually, if I got the 19" setup like in yours, it would've been perfect. It's just any 18" wheel will have problems with the 335i sedan w/ the Sports package. According to my BMW dealer, they told me today that the 335i w/o the Sports package has smaller brake calipers to accomendate for the 17" wheels. Example, the 17" wheel will not fit the 335i w/ the SP b/c of the larger brake calipers and rotors. That is why the minimum wheel size for the 335i-sedan w/ SP are 19in wheels. If I'm wrong, please someone tell me...I wish I was wrong b/c it would mean I can find 18s for my car.
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Actually, if I got the 19" setup like in yours, it would've been perfect. It's just any 18" wheel will have problems with the 335i sedan w/ the Sports package. According to my BMW dealer, they told me today that the 335i w/o the Sports package has smaller brake calipers to accomendate for the 17" wheels. Example, the 17" wheel will not fit the 335i w/ the SP b/c of the larger brake calipers and rotors. That is why the minimum wheel size for the 335i-sedan w/ SP are 19in wheels. If I'm wrong, please someone tell me...I wish I was wrong b/c it would mean I can find 18s for my car.
Thats actually something I should look into. I dont see why the 335i with the sports package would have any different size brakes than the non-sport package. My 335i brakes are definitely larger, but I do not have the sport package. How about this, just for comparison, if you could email me a picture of your front brakes to g.hashiba@altwheels.com. Then I could compare your brakes to my brakes and give you a better analysis of the situation. Thanks.
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The front break for E92 is 13.7 and rear is 13.2 so the wheel sets from E92 335 will fit on E90 (F & R is 11.2 ) but other way around.
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OK, this thread has been hi-jacked to some extent.

Post was about OFFSET differences, if any.

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To sum it all up, THERE IS a difference.
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Would the sport package wheels (style 189) on 2007 335i coupe fit the sport package (style 162) on 2006 330i sedan? I believe they have the same spec and offset.
The front have the same offset, but the 189 rears apparently have a smaller offset. I have not been able to find the exact offsets listed anywhere, but as mentioned above there _is_ a difference. Forum member 18LLC has 189s on his E90 325xi with 15mm spacers, and it looks good. Forum member ZurestBMW is having 189s put on his E90 today with no spacers. We'll soon see how that looks too.
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To sum it all up, THERE IS a difference.

OK, What is the exact offset of the E92 rear?? Still looking for an answer!
There are companies making and offering wheels already saying they will fit, yet no one has said what the rear offset is!!! If someone would just post it we can all use the calculator on this page and stop asking again and again. Someone with the tech knowledge please post this info? tirerack? Moor alloys? anyone?
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OK, What is the exact offset of the E92 rear?? Still looking for an answer!
I share in your pain, but keep this in mind: offsets apply to wheels not to the car itself. That is to say that, companies producing aftermarket wheels don't really care what the offset of the stock wheels are - they just make a wheel that fits within the distance provide between the end of the axle and the outside of the fender well.

That said - yeah, it seems insane that we don't have offsets for any of the stock E92 wheels yet. There is a nice thread at the top of the page that includes all of the E90 offsets. But the thread for the E92s has none. And Google searches produce nothing. Its like its a giant secret or something.
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Yeah, really, come on someone!

I'll be more specific: What is the offset of the stock rear wheels 8.5" sport wheel on the E92?!

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Offset for E92/93

I've inquired to several wheel vendors and to sum up their advice it is:

Front, use 30-35 offset
Rear, use a 35-45 offset

I have seen a lot of references to offsets as low as 22 in the rear but I also understand this may result in some rubbing.

I hope someone can confirm the offset of the OEM wheels.
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I know this thread is OLD but does anyone know the optimum offset to use for an E90 328xi?

im looking at some 20mm offset 18's to replace my stock 16's

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I know this thread is OLD but does anyone know the optimum offset to use for an E90 328xi?

im looking at some 20mm offset 18's to replace my stock 16's

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Optimum would be 30 offset. The lowest you should run on the E90 is 22 offset. 20mm might work depending on the wide the wheels will be and also the tires used.
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I've inquired to several wheel vendors and to sum up their advice it is:

Front, use 30-35 offset
Rear, use a 35-45 offset

I have seen a lot of references to offsets as low as 22 in the rear but I also understand this may result in some rubbing.

I hope someone can confirm the offset of the OEM wheels.
Your style 189 wheels are staggered - 8x18 front with a 34mm offset and 8.5x18 rears with a 37mm offset.
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..question is not as simple as you think as there are many technical variables-wheel design, lip versus concavity, sizes of brake calipers and rotors, suspension camber angles, wheel offset, tyre cross-sectional width, tyre shoulder design(rounded vs. square) etc .etc. not to mention the 'what I like' subjective factor. Factory specs are on 18s: 34 o/s front with 18X8 and 37 o/s rear with 18x8.5.. on my e90 I have 18x8.5 with 40 o/s as this gives me similar steering dynamics as the factory setup which I don't want to change; rear is 18x9.5 30 o/s.
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Same OEM wheel offset on the e92 as the e90. But the e92 has a little less room at the rear.
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Not entirely true.. the OEM rims may come with similar offsets in a particular size e.g. 16x7' rims with 34 o/s is a different configuration than an 18x8' rim with 34 o/s but that does not mean the offset specs are the same. Read my note again, maybe I was not clear enough..in experiments done the e92 and e90 have different offset fittings depending on <variables> as in my note..

don't want an argument so if you still hold fast to your belief we'll agree to disagree..
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Not entirely true.. the OEM rims may come with similar offsets in a particular size e.g. 16x7' rims with 34 o/s is a different configuration than an 18x8' rim with 34 o/s but that does not mean the offset specs are the same. Read my note again, maybe I was not clear enough..in experiments done the e92 and e90 have different offset fittings depending on <variables> as in my note..

don't want an argument so if you still hold fast to your belief we'll agree to disagree..
I for one could use a more thorough explanation. Not saying I disagree with you - I believe all the factors you cite are important. But won't they apply to both the E90 and E92? I suppose the question of whether they apply in the same manner is what you are trying to address. But I wonder if you have numbers to compare for the E92 vs. the ones you gave for the E90? In other words suppose I wanted to put 18x8.5 and 18x9.5 wheels on an E92. Are you suggesting that the required offsets for front/rear would then be different than the ones you use for you E90 (i.e. 40 front, 30 rear), in order to retain the factory steering and suspension feel, as you said? If so what would they be? And more pointedly, if they should differ, then why do they not differ in the stock configuration? It seems it arbitrary that'd they'd happen to be the same for the stock wheels, but then differ for any other width of wheel, you know what I mean?
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Not entirely true.. the OEM rims may come with similar offsets in a particular size e.g. 16x7' rims with 34 o/s is a different configuration than an 18x8' rim with 34 o/s but that does not mean the offset specs are the same. Read my note again, maybe I was not clear enough..in experiments done the e92 and e90 have different offset fittings depending on <variables> as in my note..

don't want an argument so if you still hold fast to your belief we'll agree to disagree..
I'm sure.
All OEM 17" for the e90 are the same offset as the OEM 17" for the e92.
And all OEM 18" for the e90 are the same offset as the OEM 18" for the e92.
And its the same for OEM 19".

BTW. I even saw an e92 with OEM 16" today.
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