Official 2011 BMW 335is coupe and convertible (E92/E93) Info/Video/Wallpaper Thread

j330xi · 01-26-2010, 10:30 AM

"Pointless car"?? NOT!
What you are looking at is the basis of the next M3 motor.. Turbo I-6
The V8 M3 is a gas guzzler and let face it.. 95% of all M3's are daily Drivers..
This car is about "efficiency".. almost M3 performance... and 37% better milage...
Cost of ownership is going to be less....Insurance, tires, service..
The M3 is a very special car.. do not get me wrong, love to have one,
Sure a "used" M3 is about the same price.. so is a USED Porsche 996 Turbo (23 mpg highway).. and well now there is PERFORMANCE and far more "modable"... Let's compare apples to apples...

This car has clearlly stated objective... "capture those who want something better than a ordinary 335i, but do not want the cost and expences of an M3" , A gap filler, and one that will be a blast to drive, with little guilt at the gas pump... And factory Warranty

The CLEAR POINT OF THE CAR... "Efficient FUN"...

gemini330zhp · 01-26-2010, 10:37 AM

Nice package for the 335 they should do a E90 in a IS package. Well at least I have a E90 M3.

mkoesel · 01-26-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by j330xi

What you are looking at is the basis of the next M3 motor.. Turbo I-6

This is no more the basis of the next M3 motor than any other N54 or N55 is. The M3 motor will probably have a lot of changes from both the N54 and N55, just as the S63 has many changes from the N63.

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This car has clearlly stated objective... "capture those who want something better than a ordinary 335i, but do not want the cost and expences of an M3" , A gap filler, and one that will be a blast to drive, with little guilt at the gas pump... And factory Warranty

I agree with the basic premise of what you are saying. I don't necessarily agree an M3 is more expensive to own than a 335i (being that I own both).

cotmfk · 01-26-2010, 10:46 AM

I do not want an M3 for the 20 mpg highway. I get just about 30 mpg highway on my 335, and I drive a lot. I have already logged over 30k miles in less than a year of ownership! 20 mpg vs. 30 mpg is a huge difference at those levels. I am sure there are other people out there that think that mpg difference is large as well. If the M3 had the TT I6, it would be perfect in my book. If I get promoted and get to drive less, then maybe an M3 would be in my future. But, for now, that 335is looks awesome, although I would prefer 6MT instead of DCT.

smaxon1 · 01-26-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by j330xi

"Pointless car"?? NOT!
What you are looking at is the basis of the next M3 motor.. Turbo I-6
The V8 M3 is a gas guzzler and let face it.. 95% of all M3's are daily Drivers..
This car is about "efficiency".. almost M3 performance... and 37% better milage...
Cost of ownership is going to be less....Insurance, tires, service..
The M3 is a very special car.. do not get me wrong, love to have one,
Sure a "used" M3 is about the same price.. so is a USED Porsche 996 Turbo (23 mpg highway).. and well now there is PERFORMANCE and far more "modable"... Let's compare apples to apples...

This car has clearlly stated objective... "capture those who want something better than a ordinary 335i, but do not want the cost and expences of an M3" , A gap filler, and one that will be a blast to drive, with little guilt at the gas pump... And factory Warranty

The CLEAR POINT OF THE CAR... "Efficient FUN"...

Everyone's a critic. I love everything about this car. If it had an LSD it would be perfect.

gemini330zhp · 01-26-2010, 11:07 AM

This 335 IS model will compete against the AUDI S4 Supercharged model and similar cars in this performance level. I think BMW did a great job. To hear people worry about what others say about a fake M3 or getting a M3 look at what they drive Im sure its not a BMW!!!!

mkoesel · 01-26-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gemini330zhp

This 335 IS model will compete against the AUDI S4 Supercharged model and similar cars in this performance level.

It's too bad they didn't make a 335is sedan, so it would be a direct competitor to the S4. Instead, the car is more of an S5 competitor even thought the S5 coupe still has the V8 for now (convertible does have the 3L SC V6 like the S4).

bmrm396 · 01-26-2010, 11:18 AM

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THEY FIXED THE hpfp WITH THIS "SPECIAL" CAR

Kerosene Hat · 01-26-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THEY FIXED THE hpfp WITH THIS "SPECIAL" CAR

That would be a "no".

Frosty · 01-26-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THEY FIXED THE hpfp WITH THIS "SPECIAL" CAR

ha ha .. i doubt it ~Frost

ICE_MAN · 01-26-2010, 12:44 PM

I have a question not sure anyone can answer, although I don't believe it has been answered yet. Hopefully there is someone who can clarify.

My question has to do with the suspension and the chasis dynamics. If you were to compare a 2007 335i with sports package (non Mpackage not available at that time) to a 2011 335is are they essentially the same. Meaning, if you upgraded the exhaust and engine tune would you essentially have the exact same car less the aesthetic upgrades.

Thanks for any insights.

noro · 01-26-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ICE_MAN

I have a question not sure anyone can answer, although I don't believe it has been answered yet. Hopefully there is someone who can clarify.

My question has to do with the suspension and the chasis dynamics. If you were to compare a 2007 335i with sports package (non Mpackage not available at that time) to a 2011 335is are they essentially the same. Meaning, if you upgraded the exhaust and engine tune would you essentially have the exact same car less the aesthetic upgrades.

Thanks for any insights.

Yes, same car... more show than go... in fact that should be the badge on the trunk.

335iMSTG

bmrm396 · 01-26-2010, 12:59 PM

haha so tru

cotmfk · 01-26-2010, 01:03 PM

That's pretty much what the debate is, I guess. Are there enough improvements (plus having a new car) to warrant paying the premium for buying the new car, and losing depreciation money on the old one. I think if I hit 80k-ish by next fall I might order one.

ezatnova · 01-26-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by citrixscu

Is anybody else less than thrilled with the 335is badge on the tach? It almost looks like the badge is trying too hard.

Agreed. Ricey and turrible.

Aridk · 01-26-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kinan_sleiman2006

AS always..Audi"s design is better!!!!!!!!!!

Audi"s are for hairdressers

technik330 · 01-26-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by noro

Yes, same car... more show than go... in fact that should be the badge on the trunk.

335iMSTG

You're right the 335iS is all about show, fuck the go.....right-

Increased hp / tq - Check
Additional radiator - Check
Light Weight 18s - Check
Sport tires...no runflats - Check
Front Bumper designed to maximize cooling - Check

Show more than go - HECK YES....but not really...

Aridk · 01-26-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THEY FIXED THE hpfp WITH THIS "SPECIAL" CAR

Not forgetting the vastgate rattle! lol

number335 · 01-26-2010, 03:13 PM

when is the full model change scheduled before i fork over the money to buy this bad boy?

bmrm396 · 01-26-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by number335

when is the full model change scheduled before i fork over the money to buy this bad boy?

2012 ... haha

no but seriously, i think its 2012 for sedans

Phil G. · 01-26-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smaxon1

Everyone's a critic. I love everything about this car. If it had an LSD it would be perfect.

No, if it had x-drive and 6MT available, it would be perfect. If it has neither, I'm out.

mkoesel · 01-26-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by number335

when is the full model change scheduled before i fork over the money to buy this bad boy?

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01-26-2010, 10:30 AM	#331
j330xi Second Lieutenant 67 Rep 265 Posts Drives: 2019 M2 Comp Join Date: May 2006 Location: IL iTrader: (0)	"Pointless car"?? NOT! What you are looking at is the basis of the next M3 motor.. Turbo I-6 The V8 M3 is a gas guzzler and let face it.. 95% of all M3's are daily Drivers.. This car is about "efficiency".. almost M3 performance... and 37% better milage... Cost of ownership is going to be less....Insurance, tires, service.. The M3 is a very special car.. do not get me wrong, love to have one, Sure a "used" M3 is about the same price.. so is a USED Porsche 996 Turbo (23 mpg highway).. and well now there is PERFORMANCE and far more "modable"... Let's compare apples to apples... This car has clearlly stated objective... "capture those who want something better than a ordinary 335i, but do not want the cost and expences of an M3" , A gap filler, and one that will be a blast to drive, with little guilt at the gas pump... And factory Warranty The CLEAR POINT OF THE CAR... "Efficient FUN"...
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01-26-2010, 10:37 AM	#332
gemini330zhp Major 34 Rep 1,181 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 E90 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: BergenCo NewJersey iTrader: (0)	Nice package for the 335 they should do a E90 in a IS package. Well at least I have a E90 M3. __________________ 2008 Jet Black E90 M3 6SPD no sunroof and 18s to my specs
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01-26-2010, 10:46 AM	#334
cotmfk Major General 2038 Rep 6,101 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere between DC and FL iTrader: (12)	I do not want an M3 for the 20 mpg highway. I get just about 30 mpg highway on my 335, and I drive a lot. I have already logged over 30k miles in less than a year of ownership! 20 mpg vs. 30 mpg is a huge difference at those levels. I am sure there are other people out there that think that mpg difference is large as well. If the M3 had the TT I6, it would be perfect in my book. If I get promoted and get to drive less, then maybe an M3 would be in my future. But, for now, that 335is looks awesome, although I would prefer 6MT instead of DCT. __________________ When you say impact instead of affect/effect, you are communicating that you don't understand the difference between the two words, and are too lazy to learn.
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01-26-2010, 11:07 AM	#336
gemini330zhp Major 34 Rep 1,181 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 E90 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: BergenCo NewJersey iTrader: (0)	This 335 IS model will compete against the AUDI S4 Supercharged model and similar cars in this performance level. I think BMW did a great job. To hear people worry about what others say about a fake M3 or getting a M3 look at what they drive Im sure its not a BMW!!!! __________________ 2008 Jet Black E90 M3 6SPD no sunroof and 18s to my specs
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01-26-2010, 11:18 AM	#338
bmrm396 Lieutenant Colonel 640 Rep 1,716 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 M3cs Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sD, CA iTrader: (2)	I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THEY FIXED THE hpfp WITH THIS "SPECIAL" CAR __________________ Formerly addicted to e46fanatics Formerly addicted to e90post
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ICE_MAN Private 0 Rep 57 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I have a question not sure anyone can answer, although I don't believe it has been answered yet. Hopefully there is someone who can clarify. My question has to do with the suspension and the chasis dynamics. If you were to compare a 2007 335i with sports package (non Mpackage not available at that time) to a 2011 335is are they essentially the same. Meaning, if you upgraded the exhaust and engine tune would you essentially have the exact same car less the aesthetic upgrades. Thanks for any insights.
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bmrm396 Lieutenant Colonel 640 Rep 1,716 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 M3cs Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sD, CA iTrader: (2)	haha so tru __________________ Formerly addicted to e46fanatics Formerly addicted to e90post
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cotmfk Major General 2038 Rep 6,101 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere between DC and FL iTrader: (12)	That's pretty much what the debate is, I guess. Are there enough improvements (plus having a new car) to warrant paying the premium for buying the new car, and losing depreciation money on the old one. I think if I hit 80k-ish by next fall I might order one. __________________ When you say impact instead of affect/effect, you are communicating that you don't understand the difference between the two words, and are too lazy to learn.
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number335 Second Lieutenant 20 Rep 254 Posts Drives: E92 Coupe Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0)	when is the full model change scheduled before i fork over the money to buy this bad boy?
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