Full Review -- Supreme Power -- Lowering Perches ----------

mojobmw_e90 · 05-01-2015, 11:38 AM

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post some photos here

My phone takes 1480 pictures and the forum doesn't accept those lol

feuer · 05-01-2015, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by alpineweissm

Dinan non-adjustable plates. I took it back to the shop and they said they put it all back together correctly, and can't rectify the knock.

Did you replace the strut mounts?

alpineweissm · 05-01-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by feuer

Did you replace the strut mounts?

I didn't replace the mounts because the car only has 28k miles on it. There is an obvious rub mark on the inside wall of the tower. I'll try to get a pic this weekend. I'm not sure how a knock is producing a rub mark. I thought everything above the top of the spring were non-moving parts.

fravel · 05-01-2015, 12:00 PM

Here's a picture of my setup. Bilstein B12 kit + Supreme Power lowering perches. Wheels are 18" Style 197. 8" front with no spacer (had to remove spacer due to rubbing after lowering perches were installed). 8.5" rear + 18mm spacer.

feuer · 05-01-2015, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by alpineweissm

I didn't replace the mounts because the car only has 28k miles on it. There is an obvious rub mark on the inside wall of the tower. I'll try to get a pic this weekend. I'm not sure how a knock is producing a rub mark. I thought everything above the top of the spring were non-moving parts.

Strut, spring perch and spring are articulating together. Only the strut mount is stationary. The rub is not from the knock and those are two different issues.
If the rest of the components are good the know is from the strut mounts.
Possible causes:strut shaft is lose or too tight, incorrect washer position, missing washer or the Dinan plates are loose.

alpineweissm · 05-04-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by feuer

Strut, spring perch and spring are articulating together. Only the strut mount is stationary. The rub is not from the knock and those are two different issues.
If the rest of the components are good the know is from the strut mounts.
Possible causes:strut shaft is lose or too tight, incorrect washer position, missing washer or the Dinan plates are loose.

Here is what I believe to be the source of the noise. The perch rim is hitting the wall and causing resistance. This makes the rub mark seen here, and the clunk while the spring turns independently of the perch during the point where clearance is the least.

My question is, is it safe to grind down the rim of the perch to add clearance?

feuer · 05-04-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by alpineweissm

My question is, is it safe to grind down the rim of the perch to add clearance?

Yes it is, for example all aftermarket adjustable camber plates that use stock size springs use OEM trimmed perches.

chatch10 · 05-05-2015, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fravel

Here's a picture of my setup. Bilstein B12 kit + Supreme Power lowering perches. Wheels are 18" Style 197. 8" front with no spacer (had to remove spacer due to rubbing after lowering perches were installed). 8.5" rear + 18mm spacer.

Could we get a couple more pictures of your ride height at different angles? Your front looks pretty low to me with the perches. Thanks!

fravel · 05-06-2015, 08:25 AM

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Could we get a couple more pictures of your ride height at different angles? Your front looks pretty low to me with the perches. Thanks!

Yeah I'll try to take some more pictures. The front tires are very slightly tucked under the fenders.

Welterweight · 05-08-2015, 07:47 PM

Just ordered these Supreme Lowering Perches for my XI. Any welding needed for install? Also the box contained the top pieces (perches) as well as two other mystery parts....?????

feuer · 05-08-2015, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Welterweight

Just ordered these Supreme Lowering Perches for my XI. Any welding needed for install? Also the box contained the top pieces (perches) as well as two other mystery parts....?????

For XI you must replace the strut mounts as well. No mystery pieces

?you have all you need in the box.

supremepower · 10-26-2015, 08:23 PM

ttt.

M335 · 01-01-2016, 02:24 PM

Before

After
No rubber pads

feuer · 01-01-2016, 03:12 PM

Hey those rotors look tiny!

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Just kidding! Awesome job!

Happy New Year!

andrey_gta · 01-04-2016, 08:56 AM

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After
No rubber pads

Wow that is quite a drop.
So without the lower rubber pads it really does make a difference. So this is completely noise free?

feuer · 01-05-2016, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Wow that is quite a drop.
So without the lower rubber pads it really does make a difference. So this is completely noise free?

No, that rubber pad is 2-3mm,so yes, it add to the total drop but the difference is negligible.

I have ran with and without pads. Both times had experiencing noise. Both times unrelated with the pad itself.

It was from the spring rubbing on that welded on arch piece on the side on the perch and also the perch hitting the strut mount when the suspension is super under load.

VERY dangerous I should say at the very least.

M335 · 01-05-2016, 09:33 PM

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Wow that is quite a drop.
So without the lower rubber pads it really does make a difference. So this is completely noise free?

Yes, there's no rubber pads at all nor at the top nor at the bottom.
I'm assuming some people have noise problem with old oem high mileage shocks when they lower it.
BTW I'm on yellow KONI Race adjustable shocks, no noises at all

feuer · 01-05-2016, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by M335

Yes, there's no rubber pads at all nor at the top nor at the bottom.
I'm assuming some people have noise problem with old oem high mileage shocks when they lower it.
BTW I'm on yellow KONI Race adjustable shocks, no noises at all

Me too. Koni yellow adjustable. Noise with BMW factory strut mount. Noise with new OEM strut mount replacment. Noise with BMW factory sport springs. Noise with BMW performance yellow springs. New control arms, new sway bar links. Noise with pads. Noise with out pads. Noise went away when I removed the SP perches.

M335 · 01-06-2016, 10:09 PM

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Me too. Koni yellow adjustable. Noise with BMW factory strut mount. Noise with new OEM strut mount replacment. Noise with BMW factory sport springs. Noise with BMW performance yellow springs. New control arms, new sway bar links. Noise with pads. Noise with out pads. Noise went away when I removed the SP perches.

Did you have silver ones or black ones?

feuer · 01-07-2016, 07:23 AM

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Did you have silver ones or black ones?

Silver, and they are the same, no?

M335 · 01-09-2016, 12:34 PM

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Silver, and they are the same, no?

I have black ones & I think they're second version(redesign)

wildwestm3 · 02-19-2016, 09:27 PM

So, will these work with my e93 M3? If so, will they affect my EDC?

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