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03-30-2013, 10:25 PM | #45 | |
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03-30-2013, 10:27 PM | #46 |
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Again, I'm a potential customer to both kits, and having the owner(s) come on here to argue bullshit unproven points really turns me off. Am I the only adult here? Sometimes, children, saying less is saying more. You want my $10k? Don't come on forums belittling your competition (without proof of EGt your argument is garbage). I care about your product not about what you think about the competitors product. You want to have a BBQ and dyno competition that's fine, but speculation regarding your competitions kit is just ignorant.
Be professional people... You're asking for thousands of dollars here. *sigh*
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03-30-2013, 10:38 PM | #48 |
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Do you have EGT sensors in your car and can you post any actual data to back up what you are claiming?
I realize Vargas will now be your main competition. They sold 10 kits in 5 days. There aren't even ten active members on this forum running your ST kit. Former Boosted IS has been MIA for months Sikh is banned....again Cupertinosteve posts here and there- congrats to him for finally getting some great 60-130 times by the way. Thank god for the alpina flash Captin Insano apparently hit his head and is finally back around to be posting Tmo or whatever his name is has been MIA after he fixed the issue with his flywheel that you should have found out about first had you done the proper R&D before releasing the kit to the general public. I say this because people went out and had new clutch's installed in preparation for the ST only to find out later they now need an new flywheel for their car to run correctly and now have to pay for labor twice to drop the tranny. Creamz is pretty much MIA and was going to sell his car after only a few months with the kit Skinrock sold his car and still can't sell his kit after 4+ months. Why you didn't just give him a refund and charge him a restocking fee is beyond me Georgiatech has been MIA for the last few months after some dismal runs at the track I guess the rest of your ST owners are out to busy enjoying their cars though. |
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I got hit by a car. And I don't post because of threads like this. I'll be at Shift Sector again next week. Quoting myself: Please try not to attack specific customers to troll a tuner/product.
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That said, I don't believe I have said anything incorrect or untrue in this thread. If you believe otherwise, please point it out. Until then, you calling me "unprofessional" is disingenuous. But like you, I'm entitled to my own opinions. We can waste our time talking feelings. Or we can discuss tech. It is my experience that those who are unable or unwilling to discuss tech would rather talk about their feelings and encourage others to feel the same way as them. I'm here to discuss tech. If you don't like it, please ignore. Shiv Last edited by OpenFlash; 03-30-2013 at 11:13 PM.. |
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03-30-2013, 11:07 PM | #53 |
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What Shiv is saying in theory makes sense but then again we don't have all the facts/details so at this point, it's hearsay. Once Vargas posts the data, which I'm sure they will eventually, we'll have the data necessary to make educated comparisons.
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03-30-2013, 11:26 PM | #54 |
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besides, when/if stage 3's become more powerful or faster than fftec singles, there will be a 6466 getting ready to change things again (inspired by the fftec kit and rocking Vargas head flanges. weird)
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03-30-2013, 11:29 PM | #55 | ||
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As for what you said being true or not, I stated in my precious post it was all speculation without hard evidence. That was pretty clear. I honestly would much rather you spoke factual tech instead of speculating where you think his power should be or what octane he's running or what his EGT's are. It's all speculation. It's annoying. If anything you've made me biased when comparing your product and Tony's by how you handle yourself here. And with $10,000 ready to throw at turbos this year you've helped me make my decision (surprise it's not with you). I've given you chances in threads and you haven't responded until now. Good job. That soap box lost you at least 1 sale this thread *thumbs up* !!
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I look forward to it! Glad your letting Terry get a crack at tuning it. Will be an awesome car I'm sure!
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03-30-2013, 11:40 PM | #57 |
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Gone are the days where people beef about being a 'better/quicker driver.'
Who gives a fuck about numbers, let's just have a friendly BBQ and tech session so all the people who are "WTF"ing about tuning details can get a better understanding. Perhaps a track day?!?!?! hehe.
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Before Vargas every mention of RB Turbo's yielded the same result. Its embarrassing to say the least. |
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You could??? But it would be nice to see some hard evidence. If Shiv posted high egt's in his early tuning days of the ST kit running high boost low advance I'll be the first to admit PTF's tuning strategy was not a wise choice. Either way it doesn't matter to me, who honestly will be running stage 3's on 91 pump anyway? Anyone with that kind of money in their car will be running 93/meth/e85 or a combination of them.
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I know it's raining all over the Bay Area so we can't go play with our cars, but let's look forward to whatever kind of BBQ can come of this whole thing. I wish you all the best at Shift Sector next weekend while I stand around at an outdoor wedding in FL in a tux with a rainbow paisley cummerbund.
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