[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by emre

I had the complete kit installed beginning of June. It took them around 10 hours.
The software part alone was more than 3 hours. Whoever says 45 minutes has no idea.

That's interesting to know--thanks for letting us know.

I believe the 45 minute estimate came from the original bulletin--anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong here...

[Evan@Tischer]

Installation on version 1: software only - can be as little as 45 minutes per BMW; however this depends on the current software level of the vehicle.

Installation on version 2: software + additional cooling components - approx 3.5 hours to install per the bulletin; this does not include the time spent programming/coding.

We have both versions on special here - $575 shipped for version 1, and $1199.00 + shipping/handling for version 2. We include the additional required parts (airduct kit, hardware, etc.) at no extra charge with our version 2 kits.

[Fugly M3]

Evan, were we to order from you, how do we go about getting it installed, just show up and tell the dealer i bought it and here's the proof (showing receipt)?

[getBMWparts]

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

Evan, were we to order from you, how do we go about getting it installed, just show up and tell the dealer i bought it and here's the proof (showing receipt)?

You just take your package/receipt to your local BMW dealership and they'll install it for you

[Hecobb74]

I believe the reason that so many people are getting the run around on Labour quotes is due to the fact that the dealers cannot guarantee an exact amount of time up front for the flash. I spoke with my SA yesterday, and he assured me that if the car was fully up to date in terms of software/firmware updates (for all the installed modules in the car), then this update goes on very quickly without issues, 45mins typically.

The problem is that most people's cars are not fully up to date, and then this procedure takes much longer to perform and can even fail if a module which is out of date does not accept the software flash successfully the first time around and then requires a 2nd go at it.

But why should we need to pay to bring a vehicle under warranty up to the correct firmware? This would seem to be something free under either the warranty or the maintenance.

[PKL]

Originally Posted by Hecobb74

But why should we need to pay to bring a vehicle under warranty up to the correct firmware? This would seem to be something free under either the warranty or the maintenance.

I agree and have been thinking about that. It's not an issue for me, but.

If I was in that boat. I would just make an appointent with the dealer to have my car upgraded to the newest firmware (for free, OBVIOUSLY, assuming my car is under new car warranty still) and then take it back at another date to install this tune, assuring it should take 45 mins and no more.

[Fugly M3]

will the dealer update to the newest version without any other issues present?

[PKL]

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

will the dealer update to the newest version without any other issues present?

Why not? BMWs are supposed to cost $0 for the first 50k miles or 4 years.

Put up a fuss. You'll get it

[Fugly M3]

I think i'll ask when i get my free carwash this week

[PKL]

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

I think i'll ask when i get my free carwash this week

South Bay?

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by PKL

South Bay?

yea

[Rustler]

I just had this done. Two thoughts:

1. With my BMWCCA discount the software cost me $479.20, which I thought was pretty good. I asked for a quote on labor and they said 2 hrs. I responded that I thought that was excessive for a software reflash and I was told by my SA that she would work on getting the labor down. When I picked up the car, I was charged for 2 hrs of labor at $130 per. My software was last updated less than a year ago when my car shit the bed on the highway.

I am interested in hearing what the labor charges were for others who have had this done. If there are several reports of others having this done at less than two hours I might raise this with the dealer. If 2 hours is standard, so be it (even though I think it's suspect).

2. The performance gains are solid, especially on the highway. Pulling at highway speeds was remarkable stronger. Hitting the gas on the highway entrance ramp in 3rd gear at about 4k rpms was a lot faster. Not sure if I noticed better acceleration around town, but I also agree with others who have said that the torque band is smoothed out. My car is also running smoother and quieter (less of a mechanical racket coming from the engine bay at idle). Not sure if that's related.

Overall: If it weren't for the exorbitant labor fee this would be a good deal. As is, I'm pleased, especially when pulling into the left lane on the highway!

[998]

dealer just called me back. he acknowledged that the bulletin indicated a 45 minute install time, but was told by the manager than it cannot be done in that time. he quoted a 2 hour install time of $320 ($160/hr.).

[rudyv1]

Just spoke with BMW Canada:

1. They are not honouring the $599 discounted price on the Stage 1 software flash (US Only)

2. They have not heard of any cases or complaints of decreased power or loss of power coming from the result of the HPFP recall where the DME is being updated.

Unbelievable if you ask me...

[Rustler]

Originally Posted by 998

dealer just called me back. he acknowledged that the bulletin indicated a 45 minute install time, but was told by the manager than it cannot be done in that time. he quoted a 2 hour install time of $320 ($160/hr.).

There have been a few requests for someone to post the bulletin. Anyone have it, or at least a link to it? If I had this in hand I would gladly go back to the dealer and question their use of time.

[BForbes]

Originally Posted by Rustler

I just had this done. Two thoughts:

1. With my BMWCCA discount the software cost me $479.20, which I thought was pretty good. I asked for a quote on labor and they said 2 hrs. I responded that I thought that was excessive for a software reflash and I was told by my SA that she would work on getting the labor down. When I picked up the car, I was charged for 2 hrs of labor at $130 per. My software was last updated less than a year ago when my car shit the bed on the highway.

I am interested in hearing what the labor charges were for others who have had this done. If there are several reports of others having this done at less than two hours I might raise this with the dealer. If 2 hours is standard, so be it (even though I think it's suspect).

2. The performance gains are solid, especially on the highway. Pulling at highway speeds was remarkable stronger. Hitting the gas on the highway entrance ramp in 3rd gear at about 4k rpms was a lot faster. Not sure if I noticed better acceleration around town, but I also agree with others who have said that the torque band is smoothed out. My car is also running smoother and quieter (less of a mechanical racket coming from the engine bay at idle). Not sure if that's related.

Overall: If it weren't for the exorbitant labor fee this would be a good deal. As is, I'm pleased, especially when pulling into the left lane on the highway!

Awesome! Thanks, Rustler

[BMWadd1ct]

Def. Too much $ for what you get :/

[qba335i]

I just ordered my kit. The installation time quoted is 90 min.

[nbkkvv5]

Originally Posted by 998

dealer just called me back. he acknowledged that the bulletin indicated a 45 minute install time, but was told by the manager than it cannot be done in that time. he quoted a 2 hour install time of $320 ($160/hr.).

Where in CA are you? EastBay BMW of Pleasanton, Ca shows installed price of $779

[BRAISKI]

I wonder if the will drop in price next year esp when the F10s are out.

[qba335i]

[/QUOTE]
Where in CA are you? EastBay BMW of Pleasanton, Ca shows installed price of $779[/QUOTE]

Where do you see this price?

[Fugly M3]

I think that's based on the BMWUSA website. That's definitely something to take to the dealer and say look shouldn't be more than 779.40 (plus tax)