E90Post
 


TNT Racewerks
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N57 / M57 Turbo Diesel Discussions - 335d > New member with a question.



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-10-2016, 08:13 PM   #1
CvilleBill
Private First Class
24
Rep
110
Posts

Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Va

iTrader: (0)

New member with a question.

Hello Board.
I am a new member and the proud owner of a new to me 2011 335d. I love my new car and am doing a full alphabet delete in the next couple of weeks in order to try to make it a more reliable and longer lasting vehicle. The performance gains will be fun as well. I will be installing an Aquamist HFS-4 meth system at the time of delete and wondered if any of you have insight into the nozzle sizes I should get? The car is going to be dyno tuned after the delete and meth install. I want to clean my engine and get performance gains with the meth/water.
Thanks for any guidance.
CvilleBill
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2016, 08:16 PM   #2
HeatherM35d
Second Lieutenant
99
Rep
250
Posts

Drives: X5d and 335d
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: upstate NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CvilleBill
Hello Board.
I am a new member and the proud owner of a new to me 2011 335d. I love my new car and am doing a full alphabet delete in the next couple of weeks in order to try to make it a more reliable and longer lasting vehicle. The performance gains will be fun as well. I will be installing an Aquamist HFS-4 meth system at the time of delete and wondered if any of you have insight into the nozzle sizes I should get? The car is going to be dyno tuned after the delete and meth install. I want to clean my engine and get performance gains with the meth/water.
Thanks for any guidance.
CvilleBill
How much performance gain from water/meth are you looking for? and what % mixture are we talking?
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2016, 08:30 PM   #3
CvilleBill
Private First Class
24
Rep
110
Posts

Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Va

iTrader: (0)

I am new to this and don't really know how much power I can make safely with meth. It seems like most people are running a 50% mix. I want power and longevity.
Thanks
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2016, 08:56 PM   #4
HeatherM35d
Second Lieutenant
99
Rep
250
Posts

Drives: X5d and 335d
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: upstate NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CvilleBill
I am new to this and don't really know how much power I can make safely with meth. It seems like most people are running a 50% mix. I want power and longevity.
Thanks
750 cc's with a couple nozzles works nice, isn't too extreme and it helps it pick up about 20 hp at the wheels while keeping the egts down with 50%
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2016, 09:12 PM   #5
Whitbread
Banned
144
Rep
316
Posts

Drives: 335D
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Gaylord, MI

iTrader: (0)

I'm a dealer for Aquamist and have the hsf4 system installed on my 335D. I'm running a 1.2mm jet in the upper intercooler pipe, and a .6mm jet pre turbo. Total injected amount is about 695cc calculated at 35psi boost. I run 50/50 water and denatured alcohol (50% methanol, 50% ethanol). On the 335D, the system needs some wiring changes and modifications that don't follow the manual. It took a hot minute to figure out how the control box needed to be configured to properly interpret the injector duty cycle, but the war was won in the end.

I'm going to say the gains are well over 20hp by the highly calibrated ass dyno . With the w/m off, the pilot sports won't spin on dry pavement in a 2nd gear roll. With w/m on, the car will go sideways at will in 2nd on dry pavement and will break the tires loose easily in 3rd if it's damp out.
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2016, 10:06 PM   #6
HeatherM35d
Second Lieutenant
99
Rep
250
Posts

Drives: X5d and 335d
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: upstate NY

iTrader: (0)

Well my 20hp 'estimate' is Dyno proven. My set up made 20 hp more at the wheels. Every set up will be a touch different.
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2016, 03:25 AM   #7
DWR
Banned
798
Rep
1,633
Posts

Drives: 2009 335d
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Maine

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeatherM35d View Post
Well my 20hp 'estimate' is Dyno proven. My set up made 20 hp more at the wheels. Every set up will be a touch different.
Something isn't right if you are only getting 20HP out of 325cc/min of methanol. Should be more closer to 30HP. Is the flow confirmed or just the sum of the nozzle ratings?
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2016, 07:47 AM   #8
HeatherM35d
Second Lieutenant
99
Rep
250
Posts

Drives: X5d and 335d
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: upstate NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWR
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeatherM35d View Post
Well my 20hp 'estimate' is Dyno proven. My set up made 20 hp more at the wheels. Every set up will be a touch different.
Something isn't right if you are only getting 20HP out of 325cc/min of methanol. Should be more closer to 30HP. Is the flow confirmed or just the sum of the nozzle ratings?
Just sum of nozzle ratings.
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2016, 09:09 AM   #9
melonbread
Private First Class
melonbread's Avatar
26
Rep
175
Posts

Drives: Honda
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitbread View Post
I'm a dealer for Aquamist and have the hsf4 system installed on my 335D. I'm running a 1.2mm jet in the upper intercooler pipe, and a .6mm jet pre turbo. Total injected amount is about 695cc calculated at 35psi boost. I run 50/50 water and denatured alcohol (50% methanol, 50% ethanol). On the 335D, the system needs some wiring changes and modifications that don't follow the manual. It took a hot minute to figure out how the control box needed to be configured to properly interpret the injector duty cycle, but the war was won in the end.

I'm going to say the gains are well over 20hp by the highly calibrated ass dyno . With the w/m off, the pilot sports won't spin on dry pavement in a 2nd gear roll. With w/m on, the car will go sideways at will in 2nd on dry pavement and will break the tires loose easily in 3rd if it's damp out.
how much do you charge for such a installation?
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2016, 07:58 PM   #10
tek4tex
Private
United_States
20
Rep
67
Posts

Drives: 2009 335D Space Metallic Grey
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Richmond, Va.

iTrader: (0)

Who's tune are you planning on buying? I live in Richmond and will have my completed alphabet delete 2009 back later this week.
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2016, 09:24 PM   #11
NC335d
Second Lieutenant
NC335d's Avatar
106
Rep
292
Posts

Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Raleigh, NC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2017 Audi Q7  [0.00]
2011 BMW 335d  [0.00]
2006 Nissan Titan SE  [0.00]
2008 MB CLS550  [0.00]
2012 BMW X5 SAV  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by tek4tex View Post
Who's tune are you planning on buying? I live in Richmond and will have my completed alphabet delete 2009 back later this week.
Hey, was that your car I saw sitting on the dyno this afternoon @ BPC??
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2016, 07:44 AM   #12
HeatherM35d
Second Lieutenant
99
Rep
250
Posts

Drives: X5d and 335d
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: upstate NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWR
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeatherM35d View Post
Well my 20hp 'estimate' is Dyno proven. My set up made 20 hp more at the wheels. Every set up will be a touch different.
Something isn't right if you are only getting 20HP out of 325cc/min of methanol. Should be more closer to 30HP. Is the flow confirmed or just the sum of the nozzle ratings?
Sorry I just remembered I had about a 40/60 meth/water mixture when I Dyno tested.
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2016, 07:58 AM   #13
CvilleBill
Private First Class
24
Rep
110
Posts

Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Va

iTrader: (0)

Thanks Heather!
I'm getting my car done at BPC. Waiting on the pipe.
Heather, what meth system do you have?
Can anyone tell me anything about porting the wastegate?
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2016, 08:43 AM   #14
CvilleBill
Private First Class
24
Rep
110
Posts

Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Va

iTrader: (0)

Thanks Bob. I sent you a PM.
Appreciate 1
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:51 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST