Engine Rattle?

matlough · 10-06-2007, 01:00 PM

Cars done about 8000 miles so far and in the last couple of weeks I've had a strange rattling coming from underneath or close to the engine bay when I start the car. If I rev the engine then it happens when I release the throttle.

Only seems to be when I start the car, after about 10 mins it goes

Had BMW Customer service out today (very good service - just selected BMW MOBILE SERVICE on iDrive!) they attached computer and it resulted in NO FAULTS

Going to have to take it to dealers this week or next.

Anyone else had this or can suggest what it is?

matlough · 10-07-2007, 01:22 AM

Anyone? Thought st Carlos may have some idea!

dxb335d · 10-07-2007, 04:18 AM

sorry mate, was watching the grand prix this morning

could be anything from a loose something or other, to a engine fault which is only there when the engine is cold, which obviously will need rectifying ASAP

Carlos

matlough · 10-18-2007, 11:37 AM

Car went in this morning.... OMG it needs a NEW TURBO!!!!!!

WTF - only done 9000 miles!!!!!

dxb335d · 10-18-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by matlough

Car went in this morning.... OMG it needs a NEW TURBO!!!!!!

WTF - only done 9000 miles!!!!!

THATS CRAZY, which one???

fuck that, was it smoking?

find it strange it was a turbo?! if a turbo had failed they usualy smoke like a BIATCH

dotn usually rattle either

did it feel underpowered at all?

Carlo

matlough · 10-18-2007, 11:59 AM

I find it hard to believe also. I'm at work at the mo and just had phone call saying pick up probably Fri eve or sat, so I will find out more when I go in.

Underpowered - Not really - if it was then f*&k me its going to be fast when i get it back!!!!

No smoke either.

dxb335d · 10-18-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by matlough

I find it hard to believe also. I'm at work at the mo and just had phone call saying pick up probably Fri eve or sat, so I will find out more when I go in.

Underpowered - Not really - if it was then f*&k me its going to be fast when i get it back!!!!

No smoke either.

well give us a thorough run down of what happens fri yeah?

Carlos

matlough · 10-18-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

well give us a thorough run down of what happens fri yeah?

Carlos

Yep!

BTW - how can i add to the title of this thread?

dxb335d · 10-18-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by matlough

Yep!

BTW - how can i add to the title of this thread?

dont think you can edit title?! why do you want to anyway?

matlough · 10-18-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

dont think you can edit title?! why do you want to anyway?

Just want to add NEW TURBO!!!

M3-FAST · 10-18-2007, 03:18 PM

Sounds like the bearings rattling in the turvo - prob wont affect performance but will if left!!

Serjames · 10-18-2007, 03:48 PM

try and get hold of the old turbo...

not sure why, but the yanks are always asking for em, it may prove useful !

sj

matlough · 10-19-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Serjames

try and get hold of the old turbo...

not sure why, but the yanks are always asking for em, it may prove useful !

sj

Why????

Maybe I could sell it to them on ebay!

matlough · 10-19-2007, 02:15 AM

Just had a call from the dealer saying that i can keep my 118d

loan car for a while because they need to order the 2nd turbo!!

THATS BOTH TURBOS F&^%ed !!!!!!

Serjames · 10-19-2007, 04:31 AM

definitely try and get hold of them...

It's VERY possible to machine them and fit larger compressor, turbine wheels etc.

There's a thread over on the US site begging for some donor turbos so the R&D can be done.

I'd be serously interested if I were you...

Definitely try and nab them...

Tell them you want them for wall decorations or something, or that your "lad" wants to take them to workshop class on a turbo show n tell.

SJ

matlough · 10-20-2007, 01:24 AM

Will try, but I suspect they will want to send them back to BMW/Mitsubishi for inspection seeing as they have only lasted 9000 miles!!!

matlough · 10-27-2007, 09:14 AM

Well, finally got the car back

When I asked why after 9000 miles did the turbos need replacing the service guy just said - " Just one of those things" !!!

So all of you with a 335 just listen when you start the car and rev the engine a bit you might here a metalic rattling noise!

checuervo · 12-03-2007, 02:18 PM

Hmmm. Where did the rattle sound it like it was coming from? From behind the engine bay and closer to the driver? This has happened to me a couple of times now.

I've got the 6MT, and I thought it had more to do with when I pressed the clutch to switch gears between 1 and 2nd and 2nd and 3rd. However, if it could have to do with releasing the throttle...

Would you here this rattle at higher speeds/gears?

matlough · 12-03-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by checuervo

Hmmm. Where did the rattle sound it like it was coming from? From behind the engine bay and closer to the driver?

Yes

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Originally Posted by checuervo

Would you here this rattle at higher speeds/gears?

I didn't

Mine was random to start with then every time I started the engine and blipped the throttle -there it was.

I can only describe it as if as soon as you blipped the throttle and released the accelerator someone dropped some coins on metal!(sorry not a very good description)

It was quite obvious when it happened. I also had a high pitched noise (bit like a worn fan belt ) sometimes at low speed.

If you read the last issue of EVO mag, the long term test of the 335i also had a turbo replaced. I emailed the owner and he replied saying he had received a couple of other 335i owners with the same problem!!!

dxb335d · 12-04-2007, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by matlough

Yes

I didn't

Mine was random to start with then every time I started the engine and blipped the throttle -there it was.

I can only describe it as if as soon as you blipped the throttle and released the accelerator someone dropped some coins on metal!(sorry not a very good description)

It was quite obvious when it happened. I also had a high pitched noise (bit like a worn fan belt ) sometimes at low speed.

If you read the last issue of EVO mag, the long term test of the 335i also had a turbo replaced. I emailed the owner and he replied saying he had received a couple of other 335i owners with the same problem!!!

At least its sorted now mate!!

Wonder if thrashign from cold contributed to the failure? do you thrash yours from cold?

matlough · 12-04-2007, 05:45 AM

No, always warmed the engine/oil first, got a nice little gauge under the rev counter that shows you oil temp. Have a look.......

oh, sorry forgot. It's only in the petrol versions!!!

DaveC · 12-04-2007, 05:59 PM

Thats a bit weird tbh, both turbos with that sort of mileage doesnt sound right. That rattle you describe sounds just like a loose exhaust heatshield but the whine sounds a bit more worrying.

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matlough First Lieutenant 32 Rep 393 Posts Drives: 335i Saloon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hampshire - UK iTrader: (0)	Car went in this morning.... OMG it needs a NEW TURBO!!!!!! WTF - only done 9000 miles!!!!! __________________ Current: AW F20 M135i :-) Past Masters: E90 335i with Evolve / Honda Accord Type R / Prelude VTI / Prelude 2.2 Vtec
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matlough First Lieutenant 32 Rep 393 Posts Drives: 335i Saloon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hampshire - UK iTrader: (0)	I find it hard to believe also. I'm at work at the mo and just had phone call saying pick up probably Fri eve or sat, so I will find out more when I go in. Underpowered - Not really - if it was then f&k me its going to be fast when i get it back!!!! No smoke either. __________________ Current: AW F20 M135i* :-) Past Masters: E90 335i with Evolve / Honda Accord Type R / Prelude VTI / Prelude 2.2 Vtec
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10-19-2007, 02:15 AM	#14
matlough First Lieutenant 32 Rep 393 Posts Drives: 335i Saloon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hampshire - UK iTrader: (0)	UPDATE!!! Just had a call from the dealer saying that i can keep my 118d loan car for a while because they need to order the 2nd turbo!! THATS BOTH TURBOS F&^%ed !!!!!! __________________ Current: AW F20 M135i :-) Past Masters: E90 335i with Evolve / Honda Accord Type R / Prelude VTI / Prelude 2.2 Vtec
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matlough First Lieutenant 32 Rep 393 Posts Drives: 335i Saloon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hampshire - UK iTrader: (0)	Will try, but I suspect they will want to send them back to BMW/Mitsubishi for inspection seeing as they have only lasted 9000 miles!!! __________________ Current: AW F20 M135i :-) Past Masters: E90 335i with Evolve / Honda Accord Type R / Prelude VTI / Prelude 2.2 Vtec
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10-27-2007, 09:14 AM	#17
matlough First Lieutenant 32 Rep 393 Posts Drives: 335i Saloon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hampshire - UK iTrader: (0)	Well, finally got the car back When I asked why after 9000 miles did the turbos need replacing the service guy just said - " Just one of those things" !!! So all of you with a 335 just listen when you start the car and rev the engine a bit you might here a metalic rattling noise! __________________ Current: AW F20 M135i :-) Past Masters: E90 335i with Evolve / Honda Accord Type R / Prelude VTI / Prelude 2.2 Vtec
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matlough First Lieutenant 32 Rep 393 Posts Drives: 335i Saloon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hampshire - UK iTrader: (0)	No, always warmed the engine/oil first, got a nice little gauge under the rev counter that shows you oil temp. Have a look....... oh, sorry forgot. It's only in the petrol versions!!! __________________ Current: AW F20 M135i :-) Past Masters: E90 335i with Evolve / Honda Accord Type R / Prelude VTI / Prelude 2.2 Vtec
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DaveC Captain 14 Rep 645 Posts Drives: 330 Touring Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Thats a bit weird tbh, both turbos with that sort of mileage doesnt sound right. That rattle you describe sounds just like a loose exhaust heatshield but the whine sounds a bit more worrying.
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