[franciscosss]

I just thought it was crazy that for $122,600 you still don't get keyless entry standard that comes with low 30k lexus and infinitis. I guess BMW thinks that if you can afford that car, $1,000 for CA is nothing

[AJayE92]

LMAO well it isn't if you think about it... these infiniti's and lexus' don't have the performance or engineering our cars do... standard or AS AN OPTIONNNNNN hahaha

jk but yeah i see what you're saying

[Pimp Star]

Originally Posted by franciscosss

I just thought it was crazy that for $122,600 you still don't get keyless entry standard that comes with low 30k lexus and infinitis. I guess BMW thinks that if you can afford that car, $1,000 for CA is nothing

I don't see the point of CA, I like the option on Mercedes's, though.

BMW = You have to carry around the key but don't need to whip it out

Mercedes = Credit Card sized transponder that fits in a wallet/handbag

The thing I don't like is carrying things in my pocket, and with Comfort Access I still have to.

[330maybe]

Originally Posted by AJayE92

LMAO well it isn't if you think about it... these infiniti's and lexus' don't have the performance or engineering our cars do... standard or AS AN OPTIONNNNNN hahaha

jk but yeah i see what you're saying

+1

[franciscosss]

Originally Posted by AJayE92

LMAO well it isn't if you think about it... these infiniti's and lexus' don't have the performance or engineering our cars do... standard or AS AN OPTIONNNNNN hahaha

They call it "F"

[franciscosss]

Originally Posted by Pimp Star

I don't see the point of CA, I like the option on Mercedes's, though.

BMW = You have to carry around the key but don't need to whip it out

Mercedes = Credit Card sized transponder that fits in a wallet/handbag

The thing I don't like is carrying things in my pocket, and with Comfort Access I still have to.

I didn't know about that MB option! that sounds so much more convenient...

[Pimp Star]

Originally Posted by franciscosss

I didn't know about that MB option! that sounds so much more convenient...

Yup, and it can stay in your pocket. It has a 3-foot range and when you touch the doorhandle (little black sensor on the handle) it unlocks, and there is an engine start/stop button the gear shifter.

This happened before the E90 came out, so MB had start/stop button first.

[BMdblU]

What a joke

Originally Posted by Pimp Star

I don't see the point of CA, I like the option on Mercedes's, though.

BMW = You have to carry around the key but don't need to whip it out

Mercedes = Credit Card sized transponder that fits in a wallet/handbag

The thing I don't like is carrying things in my pocket, and with Comfort Access I still have to.

CA gives the 'start' button a purpose. Without CA, you might as well just turn the key. The FOB fits perfectly in that small pocket in a pair of jeans. Can't even notice it.

[Pimp Star]

Originally Posted by BMdblU

What a joke



CA gives the 'start' button a purpose. Without CA, you might as well just turn the key. The FOB fits perfectly in that small pocket in a pair of jeans. Can't even notice it.

I notice it. And I don't carry a wallet because it bothers me. Just FOB in one pocket, and $20-50 in another + license + credit card

[franciscosss]

Originally Posted by BMdblU

What a joke

CA gives the 'start' button a purpose. Without CA, you might as well just turn the key. The FOB fits perfectly in that small pocket in a pair of jeans. Can't even notice it.

I don't have CA and yes, it's basically turning the key but worse, cuz it's inserting+pressing button. And the keys is small, but my key holder is big so it shows...

[JamieA]

I love my CA. I agree with the other posters, it gives the start button a purpose, and infact this is why I specified CA in the first place. I didn't see the point in inserting a key then pressing a button. Mind you, on the loan cars I have had for services (1 Series), I did get adept at putting the key in and pressing the start button at the same time with the same hand by keeping a finger extended.

I have no problems with it being a fob, as I have to carry other keys around anyway, and the fob sits nicely on these keys and they are variously in my pocket, or on the passenger seat or in the door pocket.

I do like the MB concept of start button on the top of the gear stick, does seem convenient, but I hope it had an interlock to prevent unintended switching off of the engine.

In terms of non-CA solutions, VW's insert 'n push to start key fob wins ergonomic points for me... but not the rest of the car.

[JamieA]

... by the way, Comfort Access is standard in the 7 Series in Oz, and so it should be for a car costing $AU186,000 to $AU346,000 ($US148,000 to $US276,800).

BMW Oz seems to be going on an up-spec spree of its vehicles on offer here, I think it is standard on some 1-Series models here too...

[Legion5]

Some people don't like CA, this gives it good reason to be optional.

[GregL]

Originally Posted by Pimp Star

Yup, and it can stay in your pocket. It has a 3-foot range and when you touch the doorhandle (little black sensor on the handle) it unlocks, and there is an engine start/stop button the gear shifter.

This happened before the E90 came out, so MB had start/stop button first.

Well before the E90, Mercedes debuted Keyless Go on the W220 in 1999.

[nusevad]

I dont like CA either, im afraid ill forget to take my keys out and lose them sooner or later.

[Aija]

Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

I dont like CA either, im afraid ill forget to take my keys out and lose them sooner or later.

+1

didnt care for the bells and whistles. Luckily, BMW made some of the options i want standard on the 335 such as xenon headlights and logic 7 system.

One thing they should have standard is leather. Its almost embarrassing telling people i had to pay extra for leather on 40k+ luxury sporty car.

[darkcloud]

Originally Posted by Legion5

Some people don't like CA, this gives it good reason to be optional.

Yeah but wouldn't it be easier and cheaper for BMW to delete CA off specified vehicles then add it to vehicles. That way CA could be added after the fact if wanted and it streamlines their production.

Just like everything should be prewired, at least for US cars. Since US is the highest grossing market they should pre-wire everything, ie. xenons, CA, homelink mirror, folding mirrors, L7, etc. This way cars bought on lot can still be customized like ordering from the factory but at a slightly higher premium. It just makes more sense, the wires are being ran at production whats adding a few more and leaving a extra harness capped and dangling at various points tucked behind body parts.

Originally Posted by Aija

+1

didnt care for the bells and whistles. Luckily, BMW made some of the options i want standard on the 335 such as xenon headlights and logic 7 system.

One thing they should have standard is leather. Its almost embarrassing telling people i had to pay extra for leather on 40k+ luxury sporty car.

If you think about it the leatherette is just as good as most other car makers leather. You really think Jeep, Ford, GM, Chevy, VW, Chrysler all use real leather?? Hell no, they use fake shit too that is worse then our Ette'. We all know leather isn't cheap, so why would it be standard on a 3er with a base price of 32K? 5er, 6er and 7er sure, 1er and 3er prolly not.

[Ender514]

Originally Posted by Pimp Star

I don't see the point of CA, I like the option on Mercedes's, though.

BMW = You have to carry around the key but don't need to whip it out

Mercedes = Credit Card sized transponder that fits in a wallet/handbag

The thing I don't like is carrying things in my pocket, and with Comfort Access I still have to.

MB has the edge on this one.

[aut0sh0cker]

Originally Posted by Ender514

MB has the edge on this one.

yay, i get the best of both worlds! (i have a MB also)

[328i]

Actually mercedes used to have that card, now they have a key just like bmw. What's nice however, is that Mercedes has a plastic key that you can insert and turn like a regular key, or if you want to use the keyless go feature you insert a start button into the ignition slot.

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by Pimp Star

Yup, and it can stay in your pocket. It has a 3-foot range and when you touch the doorhandle (little black sensor on the handle) it unlocks, and there is an engine start/stop button the gear shifter.

This happened before the E90 came out, so MB had start/stop button first.

I prefer the BMW option honestly. I don't usually carry my wallet around with me because I hate sitting on it but I do carry the key. Credit card would be rather wide for a pocket.

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by Pimp Star

Yup, and it can stay in your pocket. It has a 3-foot range and when you touch the doorhandle (little black sensor on the handle) it unlocks, and there is an engine start/stop button the gear shifter.

This happened before the E90 came out, so MB had start/stop button first.

I prefer the BMW option honestly. I don't usually carry my wallet around with me because I hate sitting on it but I do carry the key. Credit card would be rather wide for a pocket. If I did carry the wallet I'd prefer the MB solution.