E90Post
 


TNT Racewerks
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > New updated injector?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-13-2013, 02:29 PM   #45
Lifted07Duramax
Major
141
Rep
1,449
Posts

Drives: 2008 BMW red 335i coupe
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: springfield, mo

iTrader: (1)

So is there a recall to get my injectors replaced? Can I buy two at a time and slowly replace all 6 or since they are updated injectors all 6 need to be done?
I run e85 often
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2013, 06:32 PM   #46
getInline
Lieutenant
getInline's Avatar
Canada
12
Rep
412
Posts

Drives: 2008 335 Coupe, c32 AMG
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Parts Unknown

iTrader: (1)

Hmmmm, I had all my injectors replaced 18 months ago and just had all 3 injectors in one bank replaced with the new '079 injectors, so I am running '061 injectors in one bank and '079 injectors in the other. Sucks to be me.
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2013, 07:23 PM   #47
techwhiz
Colonel
techwhiz's Avatar
United_States
453
Rep
2,973
Posts

Drives: e90 335i Sedan - Arctic
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Bay Area, Ca

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by getInline View Post
Hmmmm, I had all my injectors replaced 18 months ago and just had all 3 injectors in one bank replaced with the new '079 injectors, so I am running '061 injectors in one bank and '079 injectors in the other. Sucks to be me.
Interesting. My SA swapped all six out under warranty/recall. Qualified for both so I don't know how he charged BMW.
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2013, 05:52 AM   #48
eriktufa
3r1k
eriktufa's Avatar
Australia
30
Rep
360
Posts

Drives: 2008 MY08 BMW E92 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Perth

iTrader: (0)

I had my injectors replaced at the same time BMW did the battery recall. They changed it without me knowing it but car feels smoother and idle is way smoother than before.
__________________
12.836 @ 109.75mph (Cobb - Accessport & VRSF DP)
Appreciate 0
      07-22-2013, 01:01 AM   #49
BlueBimmer
Enthusiast
BlueBimmer's Avatar
United_States
45
Rep
278
Posts

Drives: 2009 335i Convertible
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: PA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by getInline View Post
Hmmmm, I had all my injectors replaced 18 months ago and just had all 3 injectors in one bank replaced with the new '079 injectors, so I am running '061 injectors in one bank and '079 injectors in the other. Sucks to be me.
Were you running a tune? How did you get them to replace them - was there any obvious symptoms without the tune?
Appreciate 0
      07-22-2013, 07:29 AM   #50
trebila
Private
France
49
Rep
92
Posts

Drives: 135i
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: France, Europe

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by getInline View Post
Hmmmm, I had all my injectors replaced 18 months ago and just had all 3 injectors in one bank replaced with the new '079 injectors, so I am running '061 injectors in one bank and '079 injectors in the other. Sucks to be me.
absolutely normal.
we can just swap one bank of 3 injectors at a time.
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2013, 03:33 PM   #51
Juiced46
Major
74
Rep
1,035
Posts

Drives: 03 Turbo Cobra, 2011 335xi
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Wallingford CT

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by getInline View Post
Hmmmm, I had all my injectors replaced 18 months ago and just had all 3 injectors in one bank replaced with the new '079 injectors, so I am running '061 injectors in one bank and '079 injectors in the other. Sucks to be me.
Nothing wrong with that. BMW has changed the procedure. If you have 1 bad injector of the old style only 1 BANK needs to be replaced (meaning 3 injectors). If you have newer 11 index injectors, just the bad injectors get replaced which can be as little as just replacing 1
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2013, 02:44 PM   #52
getInline
Lieutenant
getInline's Avatar
Canada
12
Rep
412
Posts

Drives: 2008 335 Coupe, c32 AMG
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Parts Unknown

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBimmer View Post
Were you running a tune? How did you get them to replace them - was there any obvious symptoms without the tune?
I was running a tune but pulled it when I started getting that familiar rough morning idle along with the injector codes being thrown. Cleared my all codes after pulling my tune and the injector codes found their way back shortly after I cleared them. The symptoms are the same with or without a tune, very rough morning idle just after startup. Third party warranty paid for it but their adjustor needed to come out for an inspection first. They have to approve anything over $1000.
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2013, 02:51 PM   #53
getInline
Lieutenant
getInline's Avatar
Canada
12
Rep
412
Posts

Drives: 2008 335 Coupe, c32 AMG
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Parts Unknown

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juiced46 View Post
Nothing wrong with that. BMW has changed the procedure. If you have 1 bad injector of the old style only 1 BANK needs to be replaced (meaning 3 injectors). If you have newer 11 index injectors, just the bad injectors get replaced which can be as little as just replacing 1
Yup, that's what my SA told me, just would've been nice to have all 6 done at once rather than wait another 6 months for one injector in the other bank to go....which I am quite sure will happen. I have a lot of confidence in the old injectors failing.
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2013, 04:33 AM   #54
joed1
ED RN
joed1's Avatar
19
Rep
423
Posts

Drives: 2009 335xi coupe/2011 X3
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juiced46 View Post
Your source is correct. Same applied to my place. You cannot order the 261s. Basically if you have 261s in stock, they want the dealer to use those first. However they cannot be ordered. If you order a 261 the order gets cancelled and you get 079s. If its an N63 it MUST get 079s. If you are trying to install less then 6 injectors, it MUST get 6 new 079s, unless there are 261s available.

We have had many N54s in the shop in the past few weeks that needed 1 to 3 injectors. All of them had to get 6 079s because of zero availability on the 261s
Clear your messages, IM waiting.
__________________
COBB/ Custom Tune by JAKE FROM PTF / AMS FMIC/ER Charge Pipe/Synapse BOV/STETT CAI/ AR DP/ Alpina Flash/HR Sports/ Bilsteins Sports/ Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Appreciate 0
      08-01-2013, 04:11 PM   #55
fazman
Brigadier General
United_States
681
Rep
3,696
Posts

Drives: 335 e90
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by getInline View Post
I was running a tune but pulled it when I started getting that familiar rough morning idle along with the injector codes being thrown. Cleared my all codes after pulling my tune and the injector codes found their way back shortly after I cleared them. The symptoms are the same with or without a tune, very rough morning idle just after startup. Third party warranty paid for it but their adjustor needed to come out for an inspection first. They have to approve anything over $1000.
How did you get them to change this under warranty without codes? My car has a rough idle in the morning and is fine after it's warmed up. The car also settles down to about 600 RPM and i feel a shaking in the steering wheel when parked/full stop.

I could never figure out why it does that... now I know :P I'm still under CPO... but I'm guessing they will say it's normal until after the CPO is up.
Appreciate 0
      08-18-2013, 06:51 AM   #56
raffi007
Enlisted Member
3
Rep
31
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i X-Drive
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Lebanon

iTrader: (0)

I have 2 of the 261 injectors for sale.
They are brand new.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2025769-2-x-BMW-Fuel-Injector-13537585261
Appreciate 0
      10-14-2013, 10:44 AM   #57
Electric
Private First Class
United_States
35
Rep
129
Posts

Drives: 2016 BMW M3 Competition
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Wow glad I just saw this, so I need a new injector since I did plugs this weekend and noticed one is black. So now I have to search for the 261 injectors and NOT the 79.... very happy for this thread! BMW is a pain in the ass!
__________________
2016 BMW M3 Comp
2019 BMW X5 50i
Appreciate 0
      10-14-2013, 11:03 AM   #58
Electric
Private First Class
United_States
35
Rep
129
Posts

Drives: 2016 BMW M3 Competition
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Can someone answer me if I can just replace one injector or do I have to do 3? Also, is it necessary to do this calibration using a PC, (so id have to go to dealer)
__________________
2016 BMW M3 Comp
2019 BMW X5 50i
Appreciate 0
      10-14-2013, 03:24 PM   #59
N8N
Lieutenant Colonel
N8N's Avatar
United_States
168
Rep
1,843
Posts

Drives: 2009 E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Berwyn Heights, MD

iTrader: (2)

The party line is 3; a while back they were trying to get you to replace all six.

I did find a dealer that suggested trying only one; it is working so far. If I had the money I would replace the other two on Bank 2, but I don't. Car runs fine but has little hesitations; I suspect due for a walnut blasting, closest place that will do it for less than a dealer is inconvenient to me though. You do need to input the flow numbers into the DME so unless you can do that yourself you need to go to dealer and/or an independent that has that capability.
Appreciate 0
      10-14-2013, 03:31 PM   #60
Electric
Private First Class
United_States
35
Rep
129
Posts

Drives: 2016 BMW M3 Competition
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by N8N View Post
The party line is 3; a while back they were trying to get you to replace all six.

I did find a dealer that suggested trying only one; it is working so far. If I had the money I would replace the other two on Bank 2, but I don't. Car runs fine but has little hesitations; I suspect due for a walnut blasting, closest place that will do it for less than a dealer is inconvenient to me though. You do need to input the flow numbers into the DME so unless you can do that yourself you need to go to dealer and/or an independent that has that capability.
Thank you for the reply. My brother is a Toyota mechanic I will ask him if he has capable software, I really want to avoid the dealer they are such a ridiculous rip off. I am wondering how detrimental this is to get fixed. The car other than the hesitant idle every 10 seconds I don't see any other negative aspects. Not sure how much performance at WOT is suffering since car feels good.
__________________
2016 BMW M3 Comp
2019 BMW X5 50i
Appreciate 0
      10-18-2013, 03:07 PM   #61
Wes335XI
Lieutenant
Wes335XI's Avatar
107
Rep
400
Posts

Drives: 2008 335XI Space Grey
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Anchorage, AK

iTrader: (0)

So to add some more information on this topic. My service rep and service manager are dealing with a faulty injector in Cylinder #1. They tried telling me that they can only replace the one injector with a newer one and recommended that I replace all 6 injectors and spark plugs for $1800.

I told them what I knew regarding the problem and they would double check if replacing all injectors in that bank would be recommended through BMW. They checked the index numbers and gave me a call back, so all injectors in that bank will be replaced under warranty per BMW.

So even BMW dealerships are not aware of the issue or will not admit to what has to be done. You would think the tech and service manager would know if they cannot mix injectors with the old style. I am full FBO an they were concerned about the parts, but they all know of the issue with these cars and it has been a giant pain in the ass for the past year.

I'm really hoping these new injectors solve the misfire issue.
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2013, 08:51 AM   #62
Juiced46
Major
74
Rep
1,035
Posts

Drives: 03 Turbo Cobra, 2011 335xi
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Wallingford CT

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wes335XI View Post
So to add some more information on this topic. My service rep and service manager are dealing with a faulty injector in Cylinder #1. They tried telling me that they can only replace the one injector with a newer one and recommended that I replace all 6 injectors and spark plugs for $1800.

I told them what I knew regarding the problem and they would double check if replacing all injectors in that bank would be recommended through BMW. They checked the index numbers and gave me a call back, so all injectors in that bank will be replaced under warranty per BMW.

So even BMW dealerships are not aware of the issue or will not admit to what has to be done. You would think the tech and service manager would know if they cannot mix injectors with the old style. I am full FBO an they were concerned about the parts, but they all know of the issue with these cars and it has been a giant pain in the ass for the past year.

I'm really hoping these new injectors solve the misfire issue.
They should know the information. The SA or manager may not know but the tech will for sure. It tells you right in the system when you are diagnosing it in big bold letters, you cant miss it. Its also plastered all over the bulletins in bold. The information has been out there for a long time on what to do for the techs. Its written VERY clear. I wouldnt expect the SA or Manager to know, they are just middle men pushing pencils. The techs know for sure. If the SA is unsure then there is a miscommunication between the Tech and SA that is all.
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2013, 07:31 PM   #63
quasitime
Private First Class
United_States
8
Rep
126
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Portland

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Electric View Post
Wow glad I just saw this, so I need a new injector since I did plugs this weekend and noticed one is black. So now I have to search for the 261 injectors and NOT the 79.... very happy for this thread! BMW is a pain in the ass!
So does this indicate a leaking injector? I'm having rough start issues and it feels like it takes some time to burn away some leaked fuel before it starts. I really need to check my plugs.
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2013, 09:18 PM   #64
BMWM.D.
Stupid Idiot
BMWM.D.'s Avatar
134
Rep
827
Posts

Drives: E90 335i & 6th Gen ZL1
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Santa Barbara

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by quasitime View Post
So does this indicate a leaking injector? I'm having rough start issues and it feels like it takes some time to burn away some leaked fuel before it starts. I really need to check my plugs.
Yes, that is almost a sure sign there's an injector issue. If you pull the plugs after a cold-start, you'll either find a plug wet with fuel or completely black.

For what it's worth, these new "11" index injectors seem to be very good. I have yet to see any cars having issues with them. Probably a worthwhile investment to buy at least 3 (1 bank) of these instead of trying to find a single "10" or lower injector to replace one that's failed. If any of my original injectors ever take a dump, I'm going with a whole set of these.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2013, 11:34 AM   #65
james008
Captain
81
Rep
885
Posts

Drives: AW 09 335i
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charlotte

iTrader: (7)

BMW Parts source has 13538616079 injectors for $146 and the 261 injectors for $104. I am debating ordering (6) of the 261's and hoping they are out of stock and send me 079's? any chance of this? I am pretty sure I have 4 leaky injectors (261) but am not throwing any codes. Just did plugs and debating doing injectors. But don't want to dump a grand in if not necessary.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2013, 11:40 AM   #66
Myrder
Major
Myrder's Avatar
United_States
162
Rep
1,264
Posts

Drives: 2010 E92 335i MSport 6MT LMB
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: WildWest

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by james008 View Post
BMW Parts source has 13538616079 injectors for $146 and the 261 injectors for $104. I am debating ordering (6) of the 261's and hoping they are out of stock and send me 079's? any chance of this? I am pretty sure I have 4 leaky injectors (261) but am not throwing any codes. Just did plugs and debating doing injectors. But don't want to dump a grand in if not necessary.
Order 4 261s to see if they have them still ?! If they do great use them, if they don't you might get 4 new ones at old price and only have to get 2 at normal?
__________________
2010|335i|LMB|E92|6MT|MSport|Logic7|335is Clutch|AE Performance|BMS|Walbro|VRSF 7"| 149.7mph NFZ AZ 1/2mi
1992|Pontiac Firebird|Mild 355ci|T56|
-I will look on your treasures, gypsy. Is this understood?-
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:44 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST