[gatorgrad]

I want to try the Menzerna line of polishes, but don't know which combo to use. I'm thinking about the Super Intensive Polish (PO83) and the Nano Polish (106FF) or the Intensive Polish (PO91) and the Final Polish (PO85). Which combo is better for an '08 Alpine White 328?

[Sniz]

go w/ SIP and then 106FF....they are expensive but I really enjoyed using them. Great results. Got out some serious clear coat bird dropping etchings w/ no problems.

[ecsherwo]

I prefer the SIP and 106FF they seem to have more cut the just IP and FPII respectively. I would still limit your expectations since polishing Alpine White is just not that exciting. I have a AW 335 and I prefer to polish my wifes Galactic Grey 4runner since it actually shows my hard work more... :-)

Don't get me wrong, if there are swirls and paint defects you can improve its appearance, but its just not the same as dark cars...

[ScheerSpeed]

if you really want some gloss go with 85RD after 106ff

[JOYRIIDE1113]

Anyone with actual experience with OP can vouch for me on this, but...

Look into Optimum Polish... Don't know why, but on lighter colors, I get a much brighter finish than I do with Menzerna. If you want some approval here, I'm sure FMINUS has some experience with it to grant me this.

If you wanna stay with your Menzerna, go with a lighter pad after your polishing step. White will show your efforts, their just more obvious to the trained eye. Ofcourse I've been attending concours shows and have picked up an eye for these things.

[AoshichanX]

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[BK]

Originally Posted by AoshichanX

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+1 I'm familiar with SIP and 106FF, but didn't know anything about 85RD. I'll have to look it up.

[FMINUS]

I would stick with Menz. OPT is great if you are a mobile detailer since OPT is not finicky like Menz where it only works best in a controlled enviroment. OPT has a longer working time, but IMO there is no gloss like 106FF/ 106FA

The reason I love Menz is because of the spectrum of where each polish can finish. For example if 106FF/FA is used correctly, it can correct as well as a heavier cut polish like IP, and again if used correctly can finish just as good as RD. But the caveat is "if used correctly".

I have seen people use PowerGloss and finish LSP ready. I can use SIP alone and get it LSP ready, but not PG yet. Thats why I love Menz. A good amount of time I can finish with 106ff/fa with a white pad. (Dont have to use RD and grey) Yet a couple of guys I work with swear they cant leave a perfect finish without RD/Grey.

OPT and 3m are great polishes, (3m UK being my second after Menz) but IMO there is nothing close to Menz.

Again, this is all my opinion and should not be taken as FACT. To each his own.

[san~man]

Originally Posted by BK

+1 I'm familiar with SIP and 106FF, but didn't know anything about 85RD. I'll have to look it up.

Cut/Gloss/Grit:
PO85RD: 1.5/5/2500
106FF: 2.5/5/2500

[JOYRIIDE1113]

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[Detailed Image]

Originally Posted by gatorgrad

I want to try the Menzerna line of polishes, but don't know which combo to use. I'm thinking about the Super Intensive Polish (PO83) and the Nano Polish (106FF) or the Intensive Polish (PO91) and the Final Polish (PO85). Which combo is better for an '08 Alpine White 328?

As many mentioned, you can't go wrong with the Menzerna PO106FF as your finishing polish. We recently just got this in the smaller 16oz size at $26.99. If you stick to proper washing and drying techniques and have minimal imperfections, you may be fine with just the PO106FF. SIP would be a great polish to have on hand for deeper imperfections.

PO85RD is basically the same gloss as PO106FF but slightly less bite to it.

You certainly will not go wrong with any of the Menzerna options, but I think you'll get the best results with the PO106FF as many have said.

One last thing, you'll get the best results when you apply the polish with a quality buffer.

Let us know how everything turns out for you.

George @ Detailed Image

[FrankoQ]

Originally Posted by Detailed Image

As many mentioned, you can't go wrong with the Menzerna PO106FF as your finishing polish. We recently just got this in the smaller 16oz size at $26.99. If you stick to proper washing and drying techniques and have minimal imperfections, you may be fine with just the PO106FF. SIP would be a great polish to have on hand for deeper imperfections.

PO85RD is basically the same gloss as PO106FF but slightly less bite to it.

You certainly will not go wrong with any of the Menzerna options, but I think you'll get the best results with the PO106FF as many have said.

One last thing, you'll get the best results when you apply the polish with a quality buffer.

Let us know how everything turns out for you.

George @ Detailed Image

George,
So, use PO106FF for swirl removal?

[ScheerSpeed]

Originally Posted by FrankoQ

George,
So, use PO106FF for swirl removal?

depends how deep they are. 106 with a orange ccs works great 4 me

[FrankoQ]

Originally Posted by ScheerSpeed

depends how deep they are. 106 with a orange ccs works great 4 me

How can I find out how deep they are?

[ScheerSpeed]

Originally Posted by FrankoQ

How can I find out how deep they are?

umm, by trial and error really, the only way would be to try both polishes. start out with the less abrasive and if that doesnt work, go more abrasive, then pass again with the fine polish.

or you can post up a pic of the reflection of sunlight off the car and i can guess for you.

[FrankoQ]

Originally Posted by ScheerSpeed

umm, by trial and error really, the only way would be to try both polishes. start out with the less abrasive and if that doesnt work, go more abrasive, then pass again with the fine polish.

or you can post up a pic of the reflection of sunlight off the car and i can guess for you.

Okie. Thanks.
The less abrasive being the 106?
I'll post pics by the weekend.

[choopy]

I just, not even 2 hours ago, finished the first step polish with SIP083 Orange, and if done properly, not rushed and usign a 2x2 work area, the results are great! I'm using a flex 3401 and right at about 2k rpm. The results are fanastic so far, I also have the 106ff White for after wards. I will post more pics later

Enjoy!

[UncleWede]

Rookie here, but from reading the lit on Minzerna, I'm beginning to think there isn't a huge amount of finishing difference between them all. The biggest difference between Powergloss and 106ff appears to be the NUMBER of polishing particles in the mix, which provides the added cutting ability. So the same size particles will finish down the same way, just take a bit longer and provide more density to the surface. I haven't tried it yet, but almost expecting that switching from PG/Orange to PG/white or grey could provide the same effects as swithing to 106ff/white or grey.

Of course, this is going for 95%+, not FMINUS

[oldaccount]

Originally Posted by FMINUS

The reason I love Menz is because of the spectrum of where each polish can finish. For example if 106FF/FA is used correctly, it can correct as well as a heavier cut polish like IP, and again if used correctly can finish just as good as RD. But the caveat is "if used correctly".

I have seen people use PowerGloss and finish LSP ready. I can use SIP alone and get it LSP ready, but not PG yet. Thats why I love Menz. A good amount of time I can finish with 106ff/fa with a white pad. (Dont have to use RD and grey) Yet a couple of guys I work with swear they cant leave a perfect finish without RD/Grey.

does this apply to orbital users, or just rotary users?

if so, how would you correctly use SIP to finish like 106FF? The reason I ask is because I dont see any difference when using 106FF after SIP, I dont see any difference, even on black paint. There may be some additional gloss achieved by 106FF, but I have a feeling its probably all in my head.

[SpecC]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

does this apply to orbital users, or just rotary users?

if so, how would you correctly use SIP to finish like 106FF? The reason I ask is because I dont see any difference when using 106FF after SIP, I dont see any difference, even on black paint. There may be some additional gloss achieved by 106FF, but I have a feeling its probably all in my head.

i think it can apply to both based on how you use it.

i'm only familar with rotary, but i can't even finish with SIP. Perhaps the reason you don't see a difference between SIP and 106FF is because you haven't allowed the SIP to break down completely yet. It's fast on the rotary but i'm at 1800 RPM, so if you are on a DA, it might take you a long time and a lost of dust!

[oldaccount]

Originally Posted by SpecC

i think it can apply to both based on how you use it.

i'm only familar with rotary, but i can't even finish with SIP. Perhaps the reason you don't see a difference between SIP and 106FF is because you haven't allowed the SIP to break down completely yet. It's fast on the rotary but i'm at 1800 RPM, so if you are on a DA, it might take you a long time and a lost of dust!

I work the SIP until its clear, so i think its broken down completely. Wouldnt breaking it down completely make the difference that 106FF makes even less noticeable, though?

[SpecC]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

I work the SIP until its clear, so i think its broken down completely. Wouldnt breaking it down completely make the difference that 106FF makes even less noticeable, though?

i think the difference lies in technique then. Finishing polishes really depend on the user and the tool. What is your machine and what pad are you using to apply 106FF?
i assume SIP will be done with orange or green.