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05-19-2010, 05:47 PM | #1 |
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Hollograms and Hollograms.. Help!
I had my car get serviced for a machine glaze and wax because of a lot of water spots it had. I also wanted a little more shine. After around a week and a half I started noticing that there has been a lot of hollograms from the machine where it rotated on, which is basically all of the car.The wax covered it for a few days maybe a week or two, but now when the car is in the sun, my car looks awful it's really deppressing. It's a black car. What should I do to take the holograms out?? Any of the polish guru's that cou;d help me?
Please let me know the steps to take to make my car back to normal!! Please, and if so the list of products I need to buy!! Where can I buy a kit which would include everything for a full polish, for every kind of scratches, swirls, holograms, contamination, to revive the paint everything. I just want to buy a kit that would include everything, so I don't have to buy anything else. Also another kit, which would include the machine and all the pads for all the applications? Thanks Guys! Last edited by CrimsonIvy35i; 05-19-2010 at 06:16 PM.. |
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depends how bad it is , meguiar`s 205 and a polish pad on pc shouold help min or even remove it. like i said depends what they use , how deep the swirl they put in, if are from wool that 205 and polish pad will not remove the defects.
you need a PC , g110 , DA, anything similar. or just find a good detailer in your area and see his opinion after seeing the car. Cosmin
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Sounds like you took it to someone who had no clue what they were doing...glaze with a wool pad???? That explains the holograms.
It sounds like what you wanted was a polish aka paint correction. I would recommend taking it to a real detailer. You can start off by asking around here or in the North Eastern forums. Or try Google to find recommended detailers in your area. |
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Please, if you're taking it to a pro, do yourself a favor and take it to Unique Car Care in Wakefield. I can give you Rick and Ryan's contact information. They're absolutely top notch, and you most certainly won't be disappointed. You need a buffer, either a PCXP or a Flex. Hologram and buffer trail removal by hand really isn't worth it, and the machine will give you consistent results on all panels. Start by washing the car with a higher concentration of shampoo to remove any remaining glaze and/or wax on the paint. The surface needs to be as close to pristine as possible - I like CG Wash & Gloss for this step. Then you'll need to clay to remove embedded contaminants. For polish, you'll probably want something like Menzerna SIP with an orange pad. You might be able to get away with something lighter like PO203S, but for BSM you will probably need the SIP. Follow that up with some PO106FA on a white pad and you should be good. The 5.5" pads are a good choice for the PCXP, don't forget a backing plate too. Try some Blackfire Wet Diamond for a sealant after the polish for excellent protection and a very nice shine. DI also has several packages/combo deals to make product selection less tedious, so check those out too.
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but it doesnt include any polishes or waxes or anything! Where can I find a kit where I can get all the required products for a full detailing process? |
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Just add a bottle of Menzerna SIP, Menzerna 106FF and BlackFire Wet Diamond to that kit and you have everything you need.
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Yep, that'll do it. You can add a wax if you want, but BWD leaves such a nice finish behind that you really don't need to top it with anything else.
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On the imperfection gauge, holograms are super fine organized swirls vs. deeper scratches or swirls. You might want to try the least aggressive method and that might be 106FF and a white or even black pad to refine down just below the hologram level. Holograms IME are not deep and the fine cut of 106ff and light cut or no cut pad just might remove them and restore some brilliance and shine at the same time.
If that doesn't meet your standard of improvement you can always move up to SIP and a white pad and hit em again. If still not what you're hoping for go to SIP + orange. The trick here is to step up to what's necessary but not more. If you've found you need SIP and orange you might want to consider finishing with 106ff and black to refine the look. Good luck and enjoy doing it yourself!
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I think you should try the polish with the least amount of abrasiveness which can get you rid of the hollograms. I would first try Zaino All-In-One applied with a Porter Cable 7424XP dual-action polisher and a Lake Country green pad. If this doesn't work, another option is Zaino Z-PC (followed by AIO).
If this doesn't work a good polish with excellent finish is Menzerna PO203S. It is a very well-regarded one-step polish. A kit for everything would include: - Porter Cable 7424XP polisher. - Lake Country pads: 1xOrange, 2xGreen, 2xWhite, 1-2xBlack - Clay Bar (I use Clay Magic) - Zaino Z-PC (polish for swirl marks, light scratches, etc.) - Menzerna PO203S (one-step polish more abrasive than the Z-PC for more serious problems) - Zaino Z-AIO (excellent paint cleaner/finisher with just a tiny bit of abbrasiveness) - Zaino Z2-Pro + Zaino ZFX (sealant) - Zaino Z6 (Quick Detailer, 2 bottles, it's so good you will be using it all the time) - Zaino Z8 (optional, better than z6 but alot more expensive). - OEM BMW Touch-up paint for your paint code - Quixx for removing more serious scratches. Includes some useful extremely fine sandpaper. - Zaino Z7 shampoo for washing the car - Optimum No Rinse - for washing the car without a pressure washer and without the need to rinse it. - A citrus degreaser for the wheels and the lower body panels (spray on before washing the car). - A wheel cleaner - A rubber gloss enhancer (I use Zaino Z16 but it's not very good) - Pads, applicators, microfibre towels... I think you can find these at www.autogeek.net or a similar detailing online store. PS: I'm not an expert.
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