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      01-26-2012, 06:23 AM   #23
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To be honest though, the GTR driver still might have been thinking that was the hardest fight a 335i has ever put up
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      01-26-2012, 06:53 AM   #24
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Firstly, congrats OP graph looks great, loads of power nice and smooth aswell.
Unlucky with GTR encounter, That has got to be the 1% of cars on the road that could walk a 400bhp 335!

Anyone have any tales against 911's or other properly quick cars?
I had an accidental race against a focus st at some traffic lights, I was in the middle of 3 lanes needing to get in the left lane, but he though it would good to defend. 2nd gear and bye bye ford Cant imagine what another 40 odd bhp would be like.
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Firstly, congrats OP graph looks great, loads of power nice and smooth aswell.
Unlucky with GTR encounter, That has got to be the 1% of cars on the road that could walk a 400bhp 335!

Anyone have any tales against 911's or other properly quick cars?
I had an accidental race against a focus st at some traffic lights, I was in the middle of 3 lanes needing to get in the left lane, but he though it would good to defend. 2nd gear and bye bye ford Cant imagine what another 40 odd bhp would be like.
Had a play with a 996 turbo.

Blast down back roads and then Mway entrance ramp. Probably took 3 car lengths off me from 40-110+ you should've seen the look on his face after tho!!

Had a play with a lotus Elise last night on a very twisty wet road. Lost a little in the bends but when the short straights came it was farcical how easily I caught up. If I was in the lead they would've had no chance..
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      01-26-2012, 11:28 AM   #26
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Stock 996T vs FBO 335i + meth, rolling, would see the 335i pull it if you take into account torque/bhp/weight figures however, what does a mapped or FBO 996T go to?

997T is another league, near 500bhp so call it RB turbo's or the like + meth to match it stock.
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Stock 996T vs FBO 335i + meth, rolling, would see the 335i pull it if you take into account torque/bhp/weight figures however, what does a mapped or FBO 996T go to?

997T is another league, near 500bhp so call it RB turbo's or the like + meth to match it stock.
Yep - like this!



Not long now till my meth kit arrives!
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      01-27-2012, 07:48 AM   #28
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I can slowly see myself spending fortunes on this car. Ok so I carry 150kg+ more than you Coupe guys with my fancy folding top but I'm sure I can still make this a beast in a straight line .
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      01-27-2012, 08:02 AM   #29
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I can slowly see myself spending fortunes on this car. Ok so I carry 150kg+ more than you Coupe guys with my fancy folding top but I'm sure I can still make this a beast in a straight line .
Are you going for meth too then?
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just watch your perm in the wind jamjay
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I had an accidental race against a focus st at some traffic lights, I was in the middle of 3 lanes needing to get in the left lane, but he though it would good to defend. 2nd gear and bye bye ford Cant imagine what another 40 odd bhp would be like.
I had an almost identical experience. I was worried as we both came off the line at the same speed up to 10-15. I don't really like ragging the clutch from standing. Then full boost came on and made him look like he was stading still.

Although it might be a bit too much to describe a focus ST as properly quick (unless it has been properly modified).
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Are you going for meth too then?
Well I'll see what COBB hatch and go from there, Stage 2+ sounds like a nice place to be though while they sort it out.

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just watch your perm in the wind jamjay
Haha! I bought the E93 so I'd be less tempted to tweak it, now all I want to so is wind it up and hear a nice exhaust note in the open air.
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      01-27-2012, 09:14 AM   #33
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Ive been really lucky in that department, car almost sounds the same as stock dp's on cold start. Zero wastegate rattle, I had new 8mm actuator rods a year or so ago and Woods doubled checked my wastegate settings when a had my head rebuilt. You have any plans to get dp's again?
Just came across this post...why have you had the cylinder head rebuilt?
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Firstly, congrats OP graph looks great, loads of power nice and smooth aswell.
Unlucky with GTR encounter, That has got to be the 1% of cars on the road that could walk a 400bhp 335!

Anyone have any tales against 911's or other properly quick cars?
I had an accidental race against a focus st at some traffic lights, I was in the middle of 3 lanes needing to get in the left lane, but he though it would good to defend. 2nd gear and bye bye ford Cant imagine what another 40 odd bhp would be like.
Thanks bud...

Ive had a busy week on the road with work so covered about 500 miles since the remap and its definatley stronger now than when I left Evolve, 3rd is just mental.

Gonna dyno it again next week n post up the results. Will also post up details of any Porsche slayin, looking forward to a 911 carrera 2 encounter, see loads on the a34 up here.
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Just came across this post...why have you had the cylinder head rebuilt?
Had a leaking head gasket so it just made sense at 70k to rebuild the head whilst it was off. Also had the clutch done as it was accessible too.
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One thing I didn't mention was that Imran noticed that whilst the stage 2 software was asking for 14psi it was only boosting a max of just over 12. He assumed this was the natural pressure drop of the ETS intercooler rather than a boost leak.

Anyone else notice a pressure drop with this intercooler? Also I'd be interested to run some data logs via the BT cable but clueless as to how to did it, Is it easy to do?
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      01-28-2012, 05:42 AM   #37
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One thing I didn't mention was that Imran noticed that whilst the stage 2 software was asking for 14psi it was only boosting a max of just over 12. He assumed this was the natural pressure drop of the ETS intercooler rather than a boost leak.

Anyone else notice a pressure drop with this intercooler? Also I'd be interested to run some data logs via the BT cable but clueless as to how to did it, Is it easy to do?
BT Cable is easy to use as shown in the picture here. Select to log...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=25

Are you saying you never got 14psi?
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      01-28-2012, 05:49 AM   #38
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Had a play with a lotus Elise last night on a very twisty wet road. Lost a little in the bends but when the short straights came it was farcical how easily I caught up. If I was in the lead they would've had no chance..
Try it again in the dry, it will be a different story
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BT Cable is easy to use as shown in the picture here. Select to log...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=25

Are you saying you never got 14psi?
Hi Neil

Yeah, the set target psi for the stage 2 is 14 psi but I only made 12. As I said he hasn't got much experience of the ETS unit so wasn't sure if it was natural pressure drop that I was seeing or a boost leak. He did say if it was a boost leak the dyno graph wouldn't be as it was.

Is a near 2 psi drop normal for the ETS unit or do I have a small leak somewhere? I'll look at the link and run some logs today, I take it this will show boost levels?
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Hi Neil

Yeah, the set target psi for the stage 2 is 14 psi but I only made 12. As I said he hasn't got much experience of the ETS unit so wasn't sure if it was natural pressure drop that I was seeing or a boost leak. He did say if it was a boost leak the dyno graph wouldn't be as it was.

Is a near 2 psi drop normal for the ETS unit or do I have a small leak somewhere? I'll look at the link and run some logs today, I take it this will show boost levels?
Hello,

My first post here. Have been on this forum since 2007 but I’m more a reader than a poster. Recently I also ordered the evolve flash for my 335i and I’m very happy with it. When I ordered it was called stage 3 but when I received the file it was called stage 2.

Nevertheless according to Imran the file that I received was specifically made for the mods that I have and the power is there. I went form 265 stock to 350 whp (calculated to 420 flywheel) with the flash.

But the thing that made we post here is that I was told that my stage 3 file is a 13 PSI file. This is correct as my shop logged it during the dyno with the BT cable. So I think it is strange that 335i E92’s stage 2 file should be 14 PSI. Perhaps Imran can collaborate on this.

Again I’m very happy with the evolve flash and can’t wait till they finalize the higher PSI map that I also ordered. This map should run between 15 to 17 PSI according to Imran.

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Hello,

My first post here. Have been on this forum since 2007 but I’m more a reader than a poster. Recently I also ordered the evolve flash for my 335i and I’m very happy with it. When I ordered it was called stage 3 but when I received the file it was called stage 2.

Nevertheless according to Imran the file that I received was specifically made for the mods that I have and the power is there. I went form 265 stock to 350 whp (calculated to 420 flywheel) with the flash.

But the thing that made we post here is that I was told that my stage 3 file is a 13 PSI file. This is correct as my shop logged it during the dyno with the BT cable. So I think it is strange that 335i E92’s stage 2 file should be 14 PSI. Perhaps Imran can collaborate on this.

Again I’m very happy with the evolve flash and can’t wait till they finalize the higher PSI map that I also ordered. This map should run between 15 to 17 PSI according to Imran.

MRJCB
What mods are you? Stage 2 is intercooler & dp's with a reflash to around the 420 bhp mark, psi for this Map has always been set at 14. I think the stage 3 that they refere to is upgraded turbos, however this is a continuing project with them that isn't currently available.

I would speak to Imran to clarify what map you're running.
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What mods are you? Stage 2 is intercooler & dp's with a reflash to around the 420 bhp mark, psi for this Map has always been set at 14. I think the stage 3 that they refere to is upgraded turbos, however this is a continuing project with them that isn't currently available.

I would speak to Imran to clarify what map you're running.
I think I got a stage 2 map then as I'm also at 420 bhp. I just read through my emails again with Evolve and they've said from the beginning that it's a 13 PSI reflash. Nevertheless I don't really mind as the car drives great. Perhaps as they finish the higher PSI map I will ask them again.

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Hi Neil

Yeah, the set target psi for the stage 2 is 14 psi but I only made 12. As I said he hasn't got much experience of the ETS unit so wasn't sure if it was natural pressure drop that I was seeing or a boost leak. He did say if it was a boost leak the dyno graph wouldn't be as it was.

Is a near 2 psi drop normal for the ETS unit or do I have a small leak somewhere? I'll look at the link and run some logs today, I take it this will show boost levels?
Nope...See here for pressure loss info from ETS...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...4&postcount=15
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Nope...See here for pressure loss info from ETS...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...4&postcount=15
Thanks for the info, so literally no pressure drop is expected but im down a couple of psi according to Imran.

Seems I might have a small leak then, I'm gonna get it dyno'd next weekend again to double check what boost I'm reaching. I've done a couple of searches but can't see any local dealers that advertise boost leak testing. I've heard the smoke test is a good test to do, u any idea who offers this or any other reliable test in the UK?

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