Arma... The Saga Continues

issabmw · 07-11-2010, 07:19 PM

Updates?

issabmw · 07-11-2010, 07:19 PM

I like the N52 to N55 swap idea. Very unique, keep us posted.

DimSum · 07-11-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by issabmw

I like the N52 to N55 swap idea. Very unique, keep us posted.

thats IF we can find the N55 spare parts laying around.

Wake27 · 07-11-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DimSum

thats IF we can find the N55 spare parts laying around.

I would imagine it may take a while before spare parts start lying around, no?

Gavin@MMW · 07-11-2010, 08:32 PM

I think not, the n55 manifold is easily obtainable, just figuring out the theory behind getting it to work is what I need.

I already know I can shoehorn a t3/t4 turbonetics or something in the stock location and weld a custom bracket to it - done deal. the issue is controlling it with the valvetronic, which I am just waiting for the n55 tunes to come out so then adaptation can be achieved

i really think this is a better road.

Flyer · 07-11-2010, 10:27 PM

Please keep us posted!!!

Wake27 · 07-11-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Craven 328

I think not, the n55 manifold is easily obtainable, just figuring out the theory behind getting it to work is what I need.

I already know I can shoehorn a t3/t4 turbonetics or something in the stock location and weld a custom bracket to it - done deal. the issue is controlling it with the valvetronic, which I am just waiting for the n55 tunes to come out so then adaptation can be achieved

i really think this is a better road.

Oh, well good news then.

5erman · 07-11-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by e90pilot

The n55 is direct injected which leads to hotter temps in the combustion chamber but better gas mileage. The n52 is just port injected which means we would have to run richer in an FI application. It's just a theory but maybe that's why the n52 was left NA. In order to keep the operating temps down the car would have a poor emissions score and worse gas mileage to keep the block from getting damaged.

Actually DI leads to COOLER temps in the chamber since you have atomized fuel being sprayed without having had been heated in the path from a traditional fuel injection/port type. The cold fuel directly being sprayed into the chamber cools things, allows for more boost, more compression etc-all things that can cause detonation-the DI helps protect against by cooling.

Gavin@MMW · 07-12-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 5er7644065

Actually DI leads to COOLER temps in the chamber since you have atomized fuel being sprayed without having had been heated in the path from a traditional fuel injection/port type. The cold fuel directly being sprayed into the chamber cools things, allows for more boost, more compression etc-all things that can cause detonation-the DI helps protect against by cooling.

So I run a BMS meth injection kit, problem solved. Bmw just won't retail a car with meth injection

Uli_HH · 07-12-2010, 04:26 AM

Why so much talk about ARMA - with nothing more than an prototype installation - an no one interessted in supercharging an e9x thinks about Scharper Turbotechnik (link) from germany who offers allready an supercharger-kit in their shop.

Uli_HH

5erman · 07-12-2010, 04:56 PM

no kit that i see on that site you posted.

And yes meth injection works, never said you couldnt solve the problem, just correcting inaccurate info about DI.

Gavin@MMW · 07-12-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 5erman

no kit that i see on that site you posted.

And yes meth injection works, never said you couldnt solve the problem, just correcting inaccurate info about DI.

No worries, youve had some great input in both threads, so I thank you

Uli_HH · 07-13-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 5erman

no kit that i see on that site you posted.

The shop from Schaper is under re-construction, but I have seen the kits in the shop earlier ... it brings the 325i (2.5ltr.) to 295HP and the 330i (3.0ltr.) to 370HP ... with 0.4bar boost ... and costs € 4.800,-- ... it is also avaliable for 525 / 530!

Uli_HH

E90 87ss · 07-13-2010, 01:52 AM

you sure it's not for the e46, found the kits on the site, but nothing for e90...

Wake27 · 07-13-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Uli_HH

The shop from Schaper is under re-construction, but I have seen the kits in the shop earlier ... it brings the 325i (2.5ltr.) to 295HP and the 330i (3.0ltr.) to 370HP ... with 0.4bar boost ... and costs € 4.800,-- ... it is also avaliable for 525 / 530!

Uli_HH

370 hp on a 330 would be pretty solid. But yeah, I see no E90 kits. Unless that's what's under construction?

Uli_HH · 07-13-2010, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by E90 87ss

you sure it's not for the e46, found the kits on the site, but nothing for e90...

I´am 100% sure that there were kits for the e9x 325i and 330i in the Schaper Shop before it closed for new build (these kids were only shown in the shop section and not on the product side of the main page!) ... also in this forum was allready an thread about the Schaper e9x Supercharger-Kits.

Uli_HH
P.S.: I have send Schaper an eMail for more infos!

scedbimmertoy · 12-28-2011, 08:29 PM

Consider the following before purchasing any ARMA Supercharger kits for you vehicles.
1. The design is 20 years old. You need to constantly pump yellow grease to lubricate supercharger center shaft and bearings! Totally unreliable and noisy. Very easily to fail. Failed in my car 3 times in a year. They sent me bearings for free but I had to pay a lot for labor.
2. The company so called their US R&D office in Delaware is actually a “SHELL Company” which never exists. ( Already checked it with US business bureau )
3. All their parts and tech support are made from Taiwan. Poorly designed and made by a bunch of back yard mechanics and so-called engineers hiding in Delaware R&D center which never exits, they fooled me when I purchased my kit. Another example of fake business wannabe. Supercharger units are poorly hand-made.
4. Their so called innovated-design Intercooler LEAKS! ( Tested in Water )
NOW YOU KNOW

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scedbimmertoy New Member 0 Rep 9 Posts Drives: 330 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: nyc iTrader: (0)	Consider the following before purchasing any ARMA Supercharger kits for you vehicles. 1. The design is 20 years old. You need to constantly pump yellow grease to lubricate supercharger center shaft and bearings! Totally unreliable and noisy. Very easily to fail. Failed in my car 3 times in a year. They sent me bearings for free but I had to pay a lot for labor. 2. The company so called their US R&D office in Delaware is actually a “SHELL Company” which never exists. ( Already checked it with US business bureau ) 3. All their parts and tech support are made from Taiwan. Poorly designed and made by a bunch of back yard mechanics and so-called engineers hiding in Delaware R&D center which never exits, they fooled me when I purchased my kit. Another example of fake business wannabe. Supercharger units are poorly hand-made. 4. Their so called innovated-design Intercooler LEAKS! ( Tested in Water ) NOW YOU KNOW
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