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Replacing upper control arm bushings with Lemfoerder Control Arm bushings ?
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03-31-2011, 10:34 AM | #1 |
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Replacing upper control arm bushings with Lemfoerder Control Arm bushings ?
I know replacing the control arms with M3 parts is a common solution but what about simply replacing of the actual bushing.
I came across these Lemfoerder Control Arm bushings and was wondering how difficult the install would be. Is this a direct replacement without the requirement of special tools? Is this a viable option for people looking to tighten up the suspension a bit on a higher mileage car without spending $400 for the M3 bits? |
03-31-2011, 06:06 PM | #3 |
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If you remove the control arms it's probably not too difficult to fabricate a little press to get the bushings in and out. I'm pretty darn sure the bushings won't just slide out though and will require some convincing and swearing. I think when the control arm bushings wear out it's a good time to do the M3 arms. If you're paying a shop to do the work, I'd say the M3 arm swap would be pretty close in price than just swapping bushings.
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03-31-2011, 06:07 PM | #4 |
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Oh, and I forgot to mention... once you do the bushing, there's still the ball joint which will eventually wear out too. If you're paying for labor to do both of those, definitely not worth it IMO.
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03-31-2011, 06:26 PM | #5 | |
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I would change those bushings out but I am curious to know how difficult the job would be. If my ball joints are fine I see no reason to replace the entire arm. |
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04-04-2011, 11:30 AM | #6 |
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The ball joints start going also. When I replaced my uppers at 75K mls, both joints were leaking oil, action was still good, but they weren't going to last.
I replaced them with Meyle HD arms, heavier bushing and ball joint, 4 yr warranty, and not much more than OEM, around $110 ea. Noticeably tighter over bumps, and more direct steering, I'm guessing about mid-way between a standard arm and a M3. Supreme Power can source them. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ighlight=meyle btw: if anyone wants my old arms, you're welcome to them. Photos below. Last edited by AlanAZ; 04-06-2011 at 11:38 AM.. |
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It would be interesting for Meyle to come out with M3 replacement arms, no need for HD bushings but just at a lower price point than oem parts. |
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Ball joint has not been the source of the problem on the 135/335 control arms, the soft bushing is.
I'll be able to tell you if the HD bushing from Lemfoerder is stiffer than the M3 or not later today. In your photo, the bushings do look to have less flex than oem 135/335, but still softer than the M3 by design. Last edited by HP Autosport; 04-06-2011 at 12:23 PM.. |
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Very interested. The e46/e36 guys seem to prefer Lemforder over Meyle.
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The sense I get is that the Meyle HD control arm is mid-way between stock oem and M3 (for a lot less cost), which is what I wanted. Having one M3 part would not be in congruence with the rest of my suspension, which is mostly BMW M-sport performance pkg (expect for the M3 front strut brace.) |
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04-18-2011, 10:35 AM | #20 |
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Nothing at this point.
Haven't determined what it takes to replace the bushing only. Just a puller? Also haven't decided what is the best bang for the buck. Bushing replacement, or entire control arm replacement? Meyle or Lemfoerder? |
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04-18-2011, 10:46 AM | #21 |
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i was told by my alignment guy that the control arms are frozen before hand and then designed to expand inside the bushings. he said it would be very difficult to replace just the bushings on our stock units. maybe hes just lazy, but its food for thought anyways...
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04-19-2011, 01:36 PM | #22 | |
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If you decide to keep your car for a long time you should just replace the entire control arm. |
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