Phantom Mirror Issue Will Not Go Away!

RingBredE90 · 10-07-2012, 11:47 AM

Hello everyone,
I have had this dilemma on my hands for some time now on my E90. The stupid drivers side mirror automatically movies its self each time i unlock my doors and i have to push it back in place manually every time before i get in to my car. I have searched the forums and found the DYI on cleaning the connectors on the motor which i have done and it has not fixed the issue. I took the motor completely out and it was still causing it so the motor/pins are not the issue for me.

Honestly i am so fed up with this problem i just want to disconnect the power mirror feature all together. I want to keep the mirror defrost and dimming mirror features but i am ready to cut what ever wires need to be cut to stop the mirror from doing this because i am sick of having to push the mirror back in to place each time before i get in to my car. Please see picture below, does any one know which wire(s) i need to cut in order to disable the power/folding mirror feature? I dont want to spend any money fixing this at the dealer so i am hoping someone can assist.

In fact im not sure if even this will fix the issue, i have no idea what it is. Hoping to get some help here. Thanks in advance.

RingBredE90 · 10-08-2012, 09:09 PM

Any one?

galahad05 · 10-08-2012, 09:12 PM

What do you mean, moves itself? Does the power folding option cause the mirror housing to fold in, or is it just the mirror inside the housing that moves?

CombatNinja · 10-08-2012, 09:18 PM

Try disabling the "move to last position with key" feature in the settings menu. Had the same issue and it worked for me.

edirtaynine · 10-08-2012, 10:18 PM

does your radio randomly reset itself to a spanish station too?

jeeve.x · 10-08-2012, 11:00 PM

My driver side mirror moves randomly at times too, not the housing, just the mirror itself. Anyone with ideas what the problem is?

deanmc · 10-08-2012, 11:08 PM

The mirror position is tied to memory seating position, so if you have your settings set to move your seats everytime you unlock the car, then only your mirror will move bc you previously moved it back manually.

RonPaul4Prez · 10-09-2012, 08:31 AM

I had phantom mirror movement on my passenger side that the dealer couldn't replicate. After bringing the issue up a number of times at other services,they finally replaced the motor which fixed the problem. I'd check with the dealer first.

point665 · 10-09-2012, 08:42 AM

I had the same issue - dealer replaced the mirror motor, all fixed (pretty common issue)

N8N · 10-09-2012, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanmc

The mirror position is tied to memory seating position, so if you have your settings set to move your seats everytime you unlock the car, then only your mirror will move bc you previously moved it back manually.

How do you do this? I would love to set my driver's seat to move back whenever I open the door because I am about 5'11" and sit "close" to controls (actually probably a little far away in the eyes of a DE instructor but closer than most drivers) it's real hard to fold myself in and out without either kicking the kick panel or else dragging the back of my belt across the seat bolster. Is this possible or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

point665 · 10-09-2012, 09:02 AM

Just to clarify - this honestly has nothing to do with memory settings. I disabled my memory settings when my mirror was doing this (my driver side mirror would either go all the way up or all the way down whenever I unlocked the car) - but that had no effect on the issue.

It is just a bad mirror motor at the end of the day (reminds me of how pop-up headlights on C5 Corvettes will start going nuts if the motor gear is stripped when you unlock the car - doesn't really make sense, but sure enough when you replace the gear the problem is solved).

Sam335ix · 10-09-2012, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edirtaynine

does your radio randomly reset itself to a spanish station too?

No, only my car as I can see you read my previous post.

OP, it happens to me as well but the radio station also changes to Spanish music.

Blubaron79 · 10-09-2012, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanmc

The mirror position is tied to memory seating position, so if you have your settings set to move your seats everytime you unlock the car, then only your mirror will move bc you previously moved it back manually.

This

Wolf 335 · 10-09-2012, 09:54 AM

Had the same issue. Dealer replaced motor and it's fixed

RingBredE90 · 10-09-2012, 10:10 PM

How much does a dealer charge to replace the motor?

KaffineKiller · 10-09-2012, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RingBredE90

How much does a dealer charge to replace the motor?

I had same problem, with both drivers and passenger mirrors. Thankfully I was in warranty but both motors needed to be replaced. Cost me 50 bucks, but I think I remember my SA telling me it would have been around 600? But I cant remember if that was for one or both mirrors.....

RingBredE90 · 10-11-2012, 07:05 PM

Well i disconnected the motor and its still happening, does anyone know which of the wires in the above picture controls the folding feature so i can cut it?

galahad05 · 10-11-2012, 07:55 PM

Just for the hell of it (it's quick, easy, and free), have you tried BMW's technical service bulletin method to reset the power folding mirror position?

galahad05 · 10-11-2012, 07:57 PM

Here:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...19&postcount=3

Probably won't fix your problem, but it can't hurt. And like I said, it's free and quick.

RingBredE90 · 10-11-2012, 10:13 PM

Thanks il try that

dlpuette · 05-08-2013, 01:03 PM

Didn't work for me

10-07-2012, 11:47 AM	#1
RingBredE90 DTMRacer 36 Rep 215 Posts Drives: E90 330I Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Stoney Lake, ON iTrader: (0)	Phantom Mirror Issue Will Not Go Away! Hello everyone, I have had this dilemma on my hands for some time now on my E90. The stupid drivers side mirror automatically movies its self each time i unlock my doors and i have to push it back in place manually every time before i get in to my car. I have searched the forums and found the DYI on cleaning the connectors on the motor which i have done and it has not fixed the issue. I took the motor completely out and it was still causing it so the motor/pins are not the issue for me. Honestly i am so fed up with this problem i just want to disconnect the power mirror feature all together. I want to keep the mirror defrost and dimming mirror features but i am ready to cut what ever wires need to be cut to stop the mirror from doing this because i am sick of having to push the mirror back in to place each time before i get in to my car. Please see picture below, does any one know which wire(s) i need to cut in order to disable the power/folding mirror feature? I dont want to spend any money fixing this at the dealer so i am hoping someone can assist. In fact im not sure if even this will fix the issue, i have no idea what it is. Hoping to get some help here. Thanks in advance. __________________
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10-08-2012, 09:12 PM	#3
galahad05 Brigadier General 158 Rep 3,158 Posts Drives: '07 335i e90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island NY iTrader: (0)	What do you mean, moves itself? Does the power folding option cause the mirror housing to fold in, or is it just the mirror inside the housing that moves? __________________ Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. --Mark Twain
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CombatNinja Banned 46 Rep 1,556 Posts Drives: e91 328i, e90 328i, e90 335i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Try disabling the "move to last position with key" feature in the settings menu. Had the same issue and it worked for me.
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jeeve.x Lieutenant 18 Rep 425 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	My driver side mirror moves randomly at times too, not the housing, just the mirror itself. Anyone with ideas what the problem is?
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deanmc Captain 63 Rep 878 Posts Drives: 2006 325i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (15) Garage List 2006 325i [10.00]	The mirror position is tied to memory seating position, so if you have your settings set to move your seats everytime you unlock the car, then only your mirror will move bc you previously moved it back manually. __________________
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10-09-2012, 08:31 AM	#8
RonPaul4Prez Private 3 Rep 96 Posts Drives: BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Atlanta, Georgia iTrader: (1)	I had phantom mirror movement on my passenger side that the dealer couldn't replicate. After bringing the issue up a number of times at other services,they finally replaced the motor which fixed the problem. I'd check with the dealer first. __________________ 2007 Space Gray/Coral Red 335i (Dinan 3) 6MT Coupe - JB4 / P3 Boost Gauge / Dinan Stage 3 Suspension / Dinan Intercooler / BMS Dual Cone Intake / Stett Charge Pipe / AR Design Catless Downpipes / Dinan Dual Mass Flywheel / ACT 6 Puck Ceramic Clutch / BC Forged HB04 Wheels with Michelin Pilot Super Sports / OEM Aero Lip / M3 Spoiler / Painted Reflectors
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10-09-2012, 08:42 AM	#9
point665 Private 2 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Sedan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: S. FL iTrader: (0)	I had the same issue - dealer replaced the mirror motor, all fixed (pretty common issue)
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10-09-2012, 09:02 AM	#11
point665 Private 2 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Sedan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: S. FL iTrader: (0)	Just to clarify - this honestly has nothing to do with memory settings. I disabled my memory settings when my mirror was doing this (my driver side mirror would either go all the way up or all the way down whenever I unlocked the car) - but that had no effect on the issue. It is just a bad mirror motor at the end of the day (reminds me of how pop-up headlights on C5 Corvettes will start going nuts if the motor gear is stripped when you unlock the car - doesn't really make sense, but sure enough when you replace the gear the problem is solved).
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10-09-2012, 09:54 AM	#14
Wolf 335 Brigadier General 2341 Rep 3,539 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: GTA - Greater Toronto Area iTrader: (0)	Had the same issue. Dealer replaced motor and it's fixed
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10-09-2012, 10:10 PM	#15
RingBredE90 DTMRacer 36 Rep 215 Posts Drives: E90 330I Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Stoney Lake, ON iTrader: (0)	How much does a dealer charge to replace the motor? __________________
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10-11-2012, 07:05 PM	#17
RingBredE90 DTMRacer 36 Rep 215 Posts Drives: E90 330I Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Stoney Lake, ON iTrader: (0)	Well i disconnected the motor and its still happening, does anyone know which of the wires in the above picture controls the folding feature so i can cut it? __________________
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galahad05 Brigadier General 158 Rep 3,158 Posts Drives: '07 335i e90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island NY iTrader: (0)	Just for the hell of it (it's quick, easy, and free), have you tried BMW's technical service bulletin method to reset the power folding mirror position? __________________ Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. --Mark Twain
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galahad05 Brigadier General 158 Rep 3,158 Posts Drives: '07 335i e90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island NY iTrader: (0)	Here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...19&postcount=3 Probably won't fix your problem, but it can't hurt. And like I said, it's free and quick. __________________ Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. --Mark Twain
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RingBredE90 DTMRacer 36 Rep 215 Posts Drives: E90 330I Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Stoney Lake, ON iTrader: (0)	Thanks il try that __________________
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05-08-2013, 01:03 PM	#21
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