SIB Number for Priming Oil System

lwgrenier · 02-18-2019, 10:02 AM

There was a forum member on here who said there is an SIB for priming the pump after oil system repairs on a number of BMW cars. I'm wondering if anyone knows what particular SIB number this is, or how I can find out.

Pladi · 02-18-2019, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lwgrenier

There was a forum member on here who said there is an SIB for priming the pump after oil system repairs on a number of BMW cars. I'm wondering if anyone knows what particular SIB number this is, or how I can find out.

people that work in dealerships might know more about this.

Welcome to NBA Jam · 02-18-2019, 11:00 PM

SIB text and procedure quoted here for reference:

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Originally Posted by SnailBums

Straight from the bulletin-

"After replacing the engine or making engine repairs that require the replacement or removal of the engine bearings, VANOS gears, camshafts, bed plate resealing, engine oil pump, engine oil filter housing, cylinder head, engine oil cooler or anything that interrupts the engine oil supply circuit of the engine requires a short oil pump and oil supply circuit priming procedure."

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Originally Posted by SnailBums

This procedure is used when the high pressure fuel system pressure is not depleted after minor engine repairs and the fuel injection system needs to be disabled by removing the fuel injector electrical connectors.

1- If the engine has been drained prior to the repair remove the engine oil drain plug again to remove any residual oil that may have settled in the engine oil pan during the repair if the engine oil pan was not removed entirely.

2- Reinstall and torque the engine oil drain plug (with a new seal ring) per the applicable repair instruction.

3- Remove the oil filter housing cover and verify the oil filter is present. Reinstall the oil filter housing cover and torque it to the proper specification noted in the applicable repair instruction.

4- Fill the engine with the proper type and amount of engine oil, as specified in the applicable repair instruction.

5- Connect a battery charger to the vehicle.

6- Remove all fuel injector electrical connectors to disable fuel injection.

7- Crank the engine for 10 seconds.

8- After 10 seconds have elapsed, stop the starter, and allow the starter to cool for 20 seconds.

9- Repeat steps 7 and 8 two additional times.

10- Reinstall the fuel injector electrical connectors, reassemble the vehicle and verify proper engine operation.

11- After the engine has reached operating temperature, check the engine oil electronically or with the dipstick, and top up the engine oil as needed.

lwgrenier · 02-19-2019, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

SIB text and procedure quoted here for reference:

Thank you, this is very helpful!

bbnks2 · 02-19-2019, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

SIB text and procedure quoted here for reference:

I thought it was supposedly more directly related to OFHG issues? That doesn't seem to be the case. This seems to be a generic SIB and not released to address some oiling issue BMW has taken note of...

Welcome to NBA Jam · 02-19-2019, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bbnks2

I thought it was supposedly more directly related to OFHG issues? That doesn't seem to be the case. This seems to be a generic SIB and not released to address some oiling issue BMW has taken note of...

The story goes that BMW released this bulletin after OFHG replacements were becoming more common on the N55.

bbnks2 · 02-19-2019, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

The story goes that BMW released this bulletin after OFHG replacements were becoming more common on the N55.

Yes lots of stories out there lol

lwgrenier · 02-19-2019, 08:04 AM

Yeah I'd imagine 9/10 times they implement this bulletin is after an OFHG replacement, just because it's such a common fix. I'm more interested because the mechanic replacing my gasket did not do this and the engine failed. Would be nice to provide supporting documentation when I ask him for $4k.

bbnks2 · 02-19-2019, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lwgrenier

Yeah I'd imagine 9/10 times they implement this bulletin is after an OFHG replacement, just because it's such a common fix.

Right, but people were inferring that the SIB exists BECAUSE of OFHG repairs when in reality it's just a generic SIB on how to de-pressurize the fuel rail and prime the oiling system. Basically, it's a stretch to say that this SIB exists because BMW is aware of some kind of oiling issue and addressed it with a SIB.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 02-19-2019, 08:24 AM

But we still don't have anything official. Like people are just throwing quotes here what is the actual SIB number.

lwgrenier · 02-19-2019, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

But we still don't have anything official. Like people are just throwing quotes here what is the actual SIB number.

Right that's what I was asking for....

I sold the car so I could care less if there's an oiling issue or not. I just want to recoup some of the money I lost

Pladi · 02-19-2019, 10:46 AM

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Right that's what I was asking for....

I sold the car so I could care less if there's an oiling issue or not. I just want to recoup some of the money I lost

I have been thinking daily whether i want to sell the car. Big dilemma right now. My car works but its such a headache to own.

Th dilemma i have had is cant find a car to replace that will be as fun to drive. As well as might be hard to sell.

Did you have trouble selling it ?

lwgrenier · 02-19-2019, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pladi

I have been thinking daily whether i want to sell the car. Big dilemma right now. My car works but its such a headache to own.

Th dilemma i have had is cant find a car to replace that will be as fun to drive. As well as might be hard to sell.

Did you have trouble selling it ?

Well I put a 62k mile motor in a 68k mile car with a 2 year warranty and sold it for $13k so it was a pretty good deal. Since I got the car in 10/2017 I paid over $10k to keep it running so I couldn't justify holding on to it.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 02-19-2019, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pladi

I have been thinking daily whether i want to sell the car. Big dilemma right now. My car works but its such a headache to own.

Th dilemma i have had is cant find a car to replace that will be as fun to drive. As well as might be hard to sell.

Did you have trouble selling it ?

Same here even though I have a N54T and issue seem to be more on N55 but I still have that back thought ya know.. because it might be realted to product year rather and we don't have any clear data.

Only other cars I'm interested are M4s and M2s but can't afford those right now lol.

Pladi · 02-19-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Same here even though I have a N54T and issue seem to be more on N55 but I still have that back thought ya know.. because it might be realted to product year rather and we don't have any clear data.

Only other cars I'm interested are M4s and M2s but can't afford those right now lol.

Man for whatever reason the N54 seems to be more bulletproof when it comes to internal problems. So i would not worry. Not to mention the guys running MHD on 54 always seem to have much better looking logs.. Tons of power no corrections. Like i feel like i am struggling with an engine that is not really providing even much performance.. So limited performance and lots of worries .. very shitty lol

If i had n54 id keep it. All these OFHG stories and rod bearings are really off putting,

TheGoodTheBadTheUgly · 02-19-2019, 11:17 AM

Going straight for M5 Comp after this one lol.

I might drop at the dealer soon so they do my recalls and patch up my FRM. I'll try to ask for any SIB procedure or documentation. I just don't know when I will be going, because for the moment I am getting absolutely wrecked by university.

9krpmrx8 · 02-19-2019, 11:18 AM

Yes because N54's don't fail on the daily,

And newsflash, the N54 has two turbos to an E series N55's small single twinscroll. And why noobs think corrections are a bad thing is beyond me.

TheGoodTheBadTheUgly · 02-19-2019, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8

Yes because N54's don't fail on the daily,

And newsflash, the N54 has two turbos to an E series N55's small single twinscroll. And why noobs think corrections are a bad thing is beyond me.

This guy always here to start shit. I love that hahaha

9krpmrx8 · 02-19-2019, 11:30 AM

It's not starting shit, people are just either dense or purposely ignoring facts. Or both.

feuer · 02-19-2019, 11:43 AM

I wonder why the S55 and S58 have two turbochargers. Alright then...Move on. Not what this discussion is about. N54 fail too. Anyhow, OFHG and OTHG replacement isn't any different that an oil change. How many engines have reportedly failed right after an oil change? None? I'm just curious.

Pladi · 02-19-2019, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly

This guy always here to start shit. I love that hahaha

Lol thats my buddy its all good. I bet if we all met in person we would have a more civilized conversation. But forums are like this. Everyone has an opinion about something. The thing that links us all is we are all pationate about these cars. We would not be here arguing with strangers otherwise.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 02-19-2019, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8

It's not starting shit, people are just either dense or purposely ignoring facts. Or both.

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Originally Posted by feuer

I wonder why the S55 and S58 have two turbochargers. Alright then...Move on. Not what this discussion is about. N54 fail too. Anyhow, OFHG and OTHG replacement isn't any different that an oil change. How many engines have reportedly failed right after an oil change? None? I'm just curious.

Ok but I search and search and barely find N54 fails. Also join facebook group and surprise no daily failures either. Like I wanna believe you guys (well not really since I have a N54 haha) but I don't find anything compared to these N55 fails, especially right after OFHG in particular.

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lwgrenier First Lieutenant 117 Rep 255 Posts Drives: 2011 e92 335i XDrive Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (0)	Yeah I'd imagine 9/10 times they implement this bulletin is after an OFHG replacement, just because it's such a common fix. I'm more interested because the mechanic replacing my gasket did not do this and the engine failed. Would be nice to provide supporting documentation when I ask him for $4k. Last edited by lwgrenier; 02-19-2019 at 08:10 AM..
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TheGoodTheBadTheUgly Captain 257 Rep 674 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 335i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Gatineau iTrader: (0)	Going straight for M5 Comp after this one lol. I might drop at the dealer soon so they do my recalls and patch up my FRM. I'll try to ask for any SIB procedure or documentation. I just don't know when I will be going, because for the moment I am getting absolutely wrecked by university. __________________ TOTALED \| 2011 E90 335i xDrive - BMS Cold Air Intake - ETS Charge Pipe - ETS 7" FMIC - MHD Stage 2+ - GFB DV+ - PE Mod - VRSF Catless Downpipe - xDelete - xHP Stage 3 2015 E84 X1 35i M-Sport Last edited by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly; 02-19-2019 at 11:26 AM..
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feuer Major General 4276 Rep 9,206 Posts Drives: wife crazy! Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (5)	I wonder why the S55 and S58 have two turbochargers. Alright then...Move on. Not what this discussion is about. N54 fail too. Anyhow, OFHG and OTHG replacement isn't any different that an oil change. How many engines have reportedly failed right after an oil change? None? I'm just curious.
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