What we BROKE Today: 400WHP!

Noize · 11-05-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Walked U

Vanos is variable so Im not sure if it would be worth controling it so its like vtech.

Not true. Although VTEC is a different cam lobe, VANOS is more like the Evo IX Mivec or the i in iVTEC. Imagine having a cam gear that you can vary within x degrees as you see fit within the rev range!

The Mitsubishi variable intake cam timing from the factory on the Evo IX was better than the non-adjustable cam timing on the I-VIII. Still, it was far from optimized.

I haven't asked, but if Shiv is indeed controlling VANOS, he's probably trying to ascertain if he can improve the power characteristics throughout the rev range with the stock turbos. Maybe the BMW VANOS mapping is awesome. Maybe its not, but its probably what Shiv is going to find out.

FWIW, Shiv pioneered good Mivec mapping through Evo ECUs before anyone else did. Lots of people who had no clue what to do with it have since copied it to some degree.

Dr_Dirt · 11-05-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Beer Goggles

Please don't take this the wrong way, but until 3rd party dynos show this, it's pretty easy to trick a dyno into reading what you want.

The limits of our engine yet to be found. Somebody has to blow something up.

Trick a dyno???

oops, did I feed a troll?

DrewKo · 11-05-2007, 08:25 PM

Shiv, think you could post a map for V1.47 that accommodates catted down pipes until V.2 is out among all of us who ordered (like me)? I have UR catted DPs coming in one week and hate that I won't be able to maximize any gain from them because I have no map to best utilize them.

OpenFlash · 11-05-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Beer Goggles

Please don't take this the wrong way, but until 3rd party dynos show this, it's pretty easy to trick a dyno into reading what you want.

The limits of our engine yet to be found. Somebody has to blow something up.

By showing uncorrected numbers, it's pretty hard to cheat

I can post up the actual raw dynojet run files for you to look at yourself if you want.

So unless someone carved out 1000lbs from the dynojet roller, it's safe to say that the results are 100% valid. The Acura that dyno'd just minutes before us made 155whp

Shiv

E90 335i · 11-05-2007, 08:26 PM

Damn congrats!

Is it safe to assume we'd be able to get these numbers with a turbo back exhaust (catted DP) and V2 with an updated, perhaps a DP map running 93 octane and default settings? Since you were running no DP and just exhaust with V2.x and race gas, are the gains from race gas similar to the gains from DP?

Seems like when Vishnu is caught up with PROcede V2 orders, I will order my v1.47 and v2 to boot...hopefully a DP map will be out by then! Now go put that car out on the track!

Riss Racing · 11-05-2007, 08:28 PM

Amazing job Vishnu!

BoostedBMW · 11-05-2007, 08:30 PM

Breaking 400whp is a great achievement. Nice work.

stressdoc · 11-05-2007, 08:36 PM

The potential of the 335 truly is remarkable. With: V2, DPs, exhaust -> 400+ whp; LSD, light wheels, extreme tires, sways, coilovers; weight loss program; amped cooling; brakes, WOW!

ianbiz · 11-05-2007, 08:42 PM

400+!!!!!!!Purely Amazing

Raz335 · 11-05-2007, 08:55 PM

Congrats, that's some serious power for just an ECU and catback. These engines are proving to be beasts!

OC ///M · 11-05-2007, 08:56 PM

Fantastic news, thanks for putting this up Shiv, however it only ups the anticipation level. I remember you telling me in the parking lot at Bimmerfest that running 100 octane would pay off later and it looks like it has!

The results were to be expected and now it's official.

...officially worse of a wait than the night before Christmas as a kid...and the sad thing is I don't think I'm joking.

Is everybody else also a September 6th'er?

stuff:
V2
RR DP w/highflow cats
100 octane
RD Sport Ex.
Vishnu CAI

Park2670 · 11-05-2007, 08:56 PM

Congrats Vishnu! Very nice work.

scalbert · 11-05-2007, 09:01 PM

Great, now the wait for V2 gets even worse. So close but yet so far...

Congrats anyway...

Park2670 · 11-05-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Great, now the wait for V2 gets even worse. So close but yet so far..

I havent even ordered yet. Maybe I should get on the list...

Sniz · 11-05-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Great, now the wait for V2 gets even worse. So close but yet so far...

Congrats anyway...

ditto

CASHBY · 11-05-2007, 09:09 PM

Again and Again,

Great work Shiv... cant wait to see what it does with the DP's

P.S, I will be in sacramento not this weekend but next weekend at the track.. I have the DP's on the car right now.

Mr. 5 · 11-05-2007, 09:13 PM

I was right! So, what do I win?

I win........a........couple more weeks of waiting time for V2.

!Xoible · 11-05-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CEA 3

Again and Again,

Great work Shiv... cant wait to see what it does with the DP's

P.S, I will be in sacramento not this weekend but next weekend at the track.. I have the DP's on the car right now.

DOWWITTT MENG...

Ruff Rider · 11-05-2007, 09:18 PM

Some one had to climb Mt Everest when everyone said it was impossible. I applaud Shiv for taking that step up into the thin air to show what can be done.

abmw · 11-05-2007, 09:19 PM

Shhh, my eyes hurt!!!

remydlc · 11-05-2007, 09:24 PM

What can we expect on 93 octane with the same map, procede and stock otherwise?

Just corious, i guess like 385-390whp/ 405-415lb-tq?

6Zylinder · 11-05-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

FWIW, we've been running this around for the last 5 weeks. I've driven it. Dustin has driven it. Even a few customers have used it as a "loaner" for a few days at at time. We knew it was fast. We just didn't know it was making that much power.

catm3-- The PROcede map we are using is very similar to the v2.0.2 map that we will be posting up later this week. It is even running the exact same default torque values (80-90% in the low end/midrange and 100% above 6000rpm). We did make some changes to account for the extra octane, among other things. FWIW, we are controlling another engine function right now (more than just boost, afr target and timing). We have yet to determine if its necessary though. If it is, it'll be a simple firmware/wire loom update. If not, not. We still have more testing to do.

shiv

He's talking about an other wire loom and I haven't seen my V2 loom on the doorstep!

Shiv, congrats on the achievement.

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DrewKo Lieutenant Colonel 44 Rep 1,568 Posts Drives: 335i Montego Blue Saddle Brown Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	Shiv, think you could post a map for V1.47 that accommodates catted down pipes until V.2 is out among all of us who ordered (like me)? I have UR catted DPs coming in one week and hate that I won't be able to maximize any gain from them because I have no map to best utilize them.
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E90 335i Banned 32 Rep 559 Posts Drives: 2007 E90 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida iTrader: (0)	Damn congrats! Is it safe to assume we'd be able to get these numbers with a turbo back exhaust (catted DP) and V2 with an updated, perhaps a DP map running 93 octane and default settings? Since you were running no DP and just exhaust with V2.x and race gas, are the gains from race gas similar to the gains from DP? Seems like when Vishnu is caught up with PROcede V2 orders, I will order my v1.47 and v2 to boot...hopefully a DP map will be out by then! Now go put that car out on the track!
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OC ///M Dr. Octagon 260 Rep 1,919 Posts Drives: Moonstone e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South County iTrader: (0)	Fantastic news, thanks for putting this up Shiv, however it only ups the anticipation level. I remember you telling me in the parking lot at Bimmerfest that running 100 octane would pay off later and it looks like it has! The results were to be expected and now it's official. ...officially worse of a wait than the night before Christmas as a kid...and the sad thing is I don't think I'm joking. Is everybody else also a September 6th'er? stuff: V2 RR DP w/highflow cats 100 octane RD Sport Ex. Vishnu CAI __________________ OC ///M 2013 E92 M3 Individual Sold: 2011 E92 M3 SSII \| Sold: 2008 E92 M3 SSII \| Into a Wall: 2008 E92 M3 SSII \| Sold: 2007 E92 335i JB
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scalbert Major General 153 Rep 5,780 Posts Drives: '13 S4, '15 Q7 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA iTrader: (8)	Great, now the wait for V2 gets even worse. So close but yet so far... Congrats anyway...
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CASHBY 168 Rep 2,114 Posts Drives: E90 335 "done up" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: GARAGE iTrader: (2)	Again and Again, Great work Shiv... cant wait to see what it does with the DP's P.S, I will be in sacramento not this weekend but next weekend at the track.. I have the DP's on the car right now.
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