[themyst]

Originally Posted by (-(ellblazer420

Yea I was shifting very late. Was just enjoying the sound of the engine, coming from my Honda roots haha. So shifting around maybe 6K would be a better way to do the 60-130?

You can redline the 2-3 as it will land you right around 5k, but a short shift at 6200 for the 3-4 may help you accelerate a touch faster.

For reference, on the old v4 maps, I peaked at 5000 rpm, sustained 400whp to 6000 rpm and still maintained 375 whp at redline. You're around 325whp at redline, to put things in perspective. That probably has more to do with the somewhat conservative boost curve up top for your setup, but I understand why he did it. The peak number is somewhat misleading as it took 18-19 psi to get there. Those stock dps won't last long under sustained heat at high boost levels.

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by themyst

The reason this car looks slow is the fact he is shifting so late in the powerband. If you look at the dyno curve it is quite weak up top. The meat of his powerband is at 5000 rpm, and he lands post-shift past that mark. Not one bit surprised actually.

Good observation!

That's one thing I actually kind of enjoy about the newer maps.......you get a lot of grunt down low and don't have to wind out the engine to get pull.

But yes.....weaker up top.

Guess it depends what part of the powerband you like to live in, but personally, I feel this map takes advantage of what turbo engines do best.....provide gobs of low end torque.

So it's working with the advantage of a turbocharged platform in the first place.

[pits200]

Originally Posted by Bakeme521

Sorry but that doesn't look very fast. This is my car when the DIC beta first came out, just FBO at 14.5 psi, no meth. It seems like my car is pulling harder, altitude must be killing you. Can't wait for meth an 17.5 psi.

I think the video is also about the camera angle perspective.

A straight on shot is going to appear to show more movement of the needle and will technically cover a larger degree of angles.

In the ops vid and side camera angle, it is going to appear the gauge is moving less because of the perspective. I think that is why his car appears to be slower vs a straight on video of the speedometer.

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by themyst

Those stock dps won't last long under sustained heat at high boost levels.

There is also the theory that low timing values create poor leverage on the rod which leads to excess heat as well.

I thought MBT occurs around 15 degrees of advance?

Didn't Cobb use exhaust probes to measure EGT's?

[EastBayE90]

Originally Posted by Bakeme521

Sorry but that doesn't look very fast. This is my car when the DIC beta first came out, just FBO at 14.5 psi, no meth. It seems like my car is pulling harder, altitude must be killing you. Can't wait for meth an 17.5 psi.

I'm located in the San Francisco bay, altitude is around 400 feet so I don't think that could affect it greatly. And ya the angle on my video makes it seem a little slower. It is much easier to see the movement of the needles on your video.

[EastBayE90]

Originally Posted by themyst

You can redline the 2-3 as it will land you right around 5k, but a short shift at 6200 for the 3-4 may help you accelerate a touch faster.

For reference, on the old v4 maps, I peaked at 5000 rpm, sustained 400whp to 6000 rpm and still maintained 375 whp at redline. You're around 325whp at redline, to put things in perspective. That probably has more to do with the somewhat conservative boost curve up top for your setup, but I understand why he did it. The peak number is somewhat misleading as it took 18-19 psi to get there. Those stock dps won't last long under sustained heat at high boost levels.

Makes sense. So when doing a 60-130 you should start in 2nd? These were both from 3rd.

[dzenno]

Hey man, all i'm going to say is good vids...keep'em coming...people need to do more racing and bringing vids/pics of that action on here instead of shit threads like what intake to get and if BOV is better than DV...i can't believe we still get stuff like that 3.5 years later with literally hundreds of posts on the topic

when doing 60-130 you want minimal number of shifts on your 6MT, so start in 3rd at 3.5k rpm and do a fast shift at 6100rpm into 4th, not past that with stock turbos, no point

[pits200]

Originally Posted by dzenno

Hey man, all i'm going to say is good vids...keep'em coming...people need to do more racing and bringing vids/pics of that action on here instead of shit threads like what intake to get and if BOV is better than DV...i can't believe we still get stuff like that 3.5 years later with literally hundreds of posts on the topic

It can get addicting, I can see why people love going fast. First time to the track for me yesterday as either a spectator or driver. It's a little intimidating going up to the tree and having and almost 1 second reaction time, damn I'm slow. I know that doesn't effect my overall time but oh well.

I have an 09xi with v5/ets ic, didn't put my cones on for this one.

3 runs.

13.01 - 1.91 60 @106mph
13.05 - 1.98 60 @105mph
13.43 - 2.04 60 @108mph. (Messed up going into 3rd)

Can't wait to go back. Sorry to hijack op~!

[themyst]

Problem is on a 6at it's a required 2 shifts (3-4 and 4-5) so the auto may outperform a manual in the quarter mile, but get killed by the manual in the 60-130.

[themyst]

Originally Posted by (-(ellblazer420

Makes sense. So when doing a 60-130 you should start in 2nd? These were both from 3rd.

For 60-130, what dzenno said. I was talking about a roll on from 40 mph.

[EastBayE90]

Originally Posted by dzenno

Hey man, all i'm going to say is good vids...keep'em coming...people need to do more racing and bringing vids/pics of that action on here instead of shit threads like what intake to get and if BOV is better than DV...i can't believe we still get stuff like that 3.5 years later with literally hundreds of posts on the topic

when doing 60-130 you want minimal number of shifts on your 6MT, so start in 3rd at 3.5k rpm and do a fast shift at 6100rpm into 4th, not past that with stock turbos, no point

Hey thanks D. I feel the same way. Lots of boring stuff most of the time and I figured you guys needed some new videos. I try to get more footage soon. Thanks for the input next time I'll try shifting at 6100.

[ETS Michael]

So many fast cars drive in Mexico

[chrisw335i]

lmao!!

Originally Posted by ETS Michael

So many fast cars drive in Mexico

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

2 things already been said.

Shift earlier, ~ 6100 RPM

For 60-130 times its best to start your run at 40 MPH, that way you already have momentum going. Likely starting in 3rd gear would be the best approach.

If I somehow make it to mexico i'll get some runs in that are similar.

Tune/DCI/Meth setup (we'll see how it compares).

[EastBayE90]

Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

For 60-130 times its best to start your run at 40 MPH, that way you already have momentum going. Likely starting in 3rd gear would be the best approach.

If I somehow make it to mexico i'll get some runs in that are similar.

Tune/DCI/Meth setup (we'll see how it compares).

Thanks for the info. I for some reason thought that your supposed to just punch it from a roll at 60mph. I think starting at 40 in 3rd and then shifting at 6100 I should see some better results.

Time for you to get down to Mexico for some fast driving and huge margaritas.

[Syndicategt]

Originally Posted by dzenno

Hey man, all i'm going to say is good vids...keep'em coming...people need to do more racing and bringing vids/pics of that action on here instead of shit threads like what intake to get and if BOV is better than DV...i

I heard BOV's don't work with our cars and what exhaust sounds better, AE or PE? .... joking

Good videos, keep them coming but do so SAFELY!

[dzenno]

Try to get a vbox from someone guys, we need to get that 60-130 thread living again...its soooo dead!

[ttbmer]

Originally Posted by SIKH335

California East Bay Area. What exhaust are you running. Your mods seem similar to mine.

Stock exhaust. 4000ft plus here in Vegas.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by (-(ellblazer420

Thanks for the info. I for some reason thought that your supposed to just punch it from a roll at 60mph. I think starting at 40 in 3rd and then shifting at 6100 I should see some better results.

Time for you to get down to Mexico for some fast driving and huge margaritas.

I could swear there is a highway by me that reminds of Mexico, it should suffice.

[OpenFlash]

Hellblazer--- you can borrow my vbox next week

[ETS Michael]

I might have to make a trip to Mexico as well. I just got a new go pro and haven't had a chance to use it. I know the first time I use it... it's going to fly off and get ran over.

Michael

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by ETS Michael

I might have to make a trip to Mexico as well. I just got a new go pro and haven't had a chance to use it. I know the first time I use it... it's going to fly off and get ran over.

Michael

First time I used my Go Pro I attached a string to it.

Just wipe the area with rubbing alcohol. You should be good to go after that.