[ska///235i]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

vendors should stand behind their products like any other business... its not out of the question to expect that.

Udub, how come you dont contact the seller?
you have the link to the sales thread?

[Kev]

Originally Posted by ska325xi

Udub, how come you dont contact the seller?
you have the link to the sales thread?

He did. He was bounced off to Long.

Originally Posted by PAKMAN

omg bitchassness alert. You're just one person out of hundreds he has to help. Long shouldnt have helped you, but he still did. you should appreciate that and leave it at that.

Can you take your insecurities else where and stop polluting this thread? Kids like you give Asians a bad rep......

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by ska325xi

Udub, how come you dont contact the seller?
you have the link to the sales thread?

I did when I 1st found out about the poor fit on the pieces... sent him the same pics I posted in post #1. He just referred me back to Long for an exchange of the bad piece. Because he said he was selling it for Long, I assume his responsibility kinda ended there since he said it was just a favor to him to get it sold.

[garyhgaryh]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

apparently after it was boxed up and sent out for shipment to long.

You know how hard that is for me to believe that it got cracked during shipment? But anyways, it's cracked and right now the only recourse you have is with the shipping co (did u insure it?). If they do an investigation on how it got cracked, I don't think it's going to go your way. If it wasn't cracked, you would have alot more options, but I don't think anyone is going to reimburse you $100.

Gary

[Prissy]

Originally Posted by Mote

I don't really think all that is necessary. Most of us here know the type of personal attention and great service Long gives his customers and we all like to stand by him, but I think you're doing more to hurt Long's standing credibility by lashing out the way you have been in your posts. No need for the verbal mudslinging.

I think you are just trying to mak things worse...

[radix]

Originally Posted by GME92

Simple answer to this issue is "warranty is not transferable." If Long sold to "Drew" then Long's "warranty" would be to Drew, but then Drew sold it to you, so the "warranty" is completely voided from original manufacturer (Long).

Also keep in mind that buying anything on a forum from another private seller is like buying from Craigslist, or buying stuff at a garage sale...there is no such thing as "warranty" everything is sold as is.

So OP can either suck it up and learn to never buy from a forum private seller that you don't really know, or go after the private seller (Drew) who actually sold the product to you and not the original manufacturer (Long).

*******Disclaimer*******
I have never bought anything from Long.
I don't know Long personally. I'm not
defending any one party. Take everything
I say with a grain of salt. Thank you.

Much of what I quoted is simply not true.

It doesn't matter if a warranty is not transferable. All purchased items come with two implied warranties, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. If the trim didn't fit when the OP received it, the seller should take it back no questions asked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implied_warranty

I don't see what the big deal here is, the seller is causing far more damage to their reputation than the cost of the trim. Even if the trim was damaged when installing or removing it, has nobody considered that it might have been damaged because it didn't fit? If you try to put the round peg in the square hole bad things happen.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by garyhgaryh

You know how hard that is for me to believe that it got cracked during shipment? But anyways, it's cracked and right now the only recourse you have is with the shipping co (did u insure it?). If they do an investigation on how it got cracked, I don't think it's going to go your way. If it wasn't cracked, you would have alot more options, but I don't think anyone is going to reimburse you $100.

Gary

Fedex automatically insures up to $100 for free (just like ups) but when I filed a claim they said it was unlikely since it was packed by an authorized shipping agent and after looking into that they said they wouldn't be paying for the damage.

I totally understand, yes I got fuked by FedEx however I also think that despite the damage that was done, the piece still didn't fit in the 1st place so it should have been bound for the trash after long confirmed it wasn't fitting right, and a new piece sent to me.. not taken back and sold again for some poor other guy to find out it doesn't fit on his e90 either. Thats where my biggest problem is, he said himself he won't give me a refund because he can't resell the piece.... so now long is selling trim pieces that he knows don't fit right? I'd hate to say that because despite all this BS I know he tries to help people out with getting them good stuff at low prices but... I don't really know what else to think.
I just don't understand why when it comes down to a matter of him standing behind the stuff he sells or has his friends sell as a favor to him he won't do the ethical thing and correct the situation.

[Mote]

Originally Posted by Prissy

I think you are just trying to mak things worse...

Really? You think? By trying to establish a sense of maturity and professionalism from both sides of the fence on this? Sorry if i'm not from the school of resolving issues by name calling and childish bickering but conducting yourself in a classy manner speaks volumes of ones character.

[NaTuReB0Y]

What we've got here is.....failure to communicate.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by Mote

Really? You think? By trying to establish a sense of maturity and professionalism from both sides of the fence on this? Sorry if i'm not from the school of resolving issues by name calling and childish bickering but conducting yourself in a classy manner speaks volumes of ones character.

^gonna have to agree with you there Mote.

[UdubBadger]

[yoyeewee]

Udub did not buy the part directly from Long. Therefore, Long is not obligated to do anything for Udub. Simple as that.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by yoyeewee

Udub did not buy the part directly from Long. Therefore, Long is not obligated to do anything for Udub. Simple as that.

not sure if you read all 5 pages but it clearly states I bought it from someone selling it for Long as a favor... one of his friends.

to me that equates to me still buying it from Long, or at least Long being responsible for anything wrong with it.

[radix]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

not sure if you read all 5 pages but it clearly states I bought it from someone selling it for Long as a favor... one of his friends.

to me that equates to me still buying it from Long, or at least Long being responsible for anything wrong with it.

The bottom line is the seller is the person who now has your money. That person sold the part to you with a warranty, whether they like it or not. If the part was defective when you bought it, but couldn't tell when you went to install it, it's still covered under the implied warranties of merchantability/fitness. As I said before, there is likely a cause and effect relationship between the malformed, ill fitting part and the scratches. A reputable seller would give you a refund, repair, or replace the part as they are obligated to.

[addy85]

Originally Posted by PAKMAN

gime your addy, addy, so i can talk to you face to face. so you can stop assuming who we are and what we do. mine is 1928 St. Mary's Drive Moraga, Ca 94575. If your ever in the area. come ring my doorbell!

Becareful what you wish for. Actually if I was Long, you would no longer be my friend because of your immaturity

PS, your not tough so quit acting like it

[ejazbmw]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

not sure if you read all 5 pages but it clearly states I bought it from someone selling it for Long as a favor... one of his friends.

to me that equates to me still buying it from Long, or at least Long being responsible for anything wrong with it.

i don't understand what your trying to get out of this thread, are you trying to make long look like a bad person? i mean i don't think people care what you say about long since he has made a name for himself here as a great guy. I mean i've read all 5pages and it seems to me all your doing it is bitching at a guy who has done more then he really had to, and I've never done business with long so im not one of his "groupies" but damn man give it break already its more annoying then anything

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by anmcguire

The bottom line is the seller is the person who now has your money. That person sold the part to you with a warranty, whether they like it or not. If the part was defective when you bought it, but couldn't tell when you went to install it, it's still covered under the implied warranties of merchantability/fitness. As I said before, there is likely a cause and effect relationship between the malformed, ill fitting part and the scratches. A reputable seller would give you a refund, repair, or replace the part as they are obligated to.

thats a very good point... but who stands behind the products poor fit? So what would happen? I get refund from Evo119, and send him back the trim... then he in turn will give back to Longtran because he has no use for a set of trim that doesn't fit right (or now is cracked) so its going to end up in the same place either way, coming back to Long. Now I do realize that isn't my problem what happens to it once I would give it back to Evo119... however my best guess is that since they are friends, he'd get a new piece or his money back so why go to all that trouble? Long could have just sent me a new piece or refund for it and had this all taken care of 2 months ago.

[addy85]

What I don't understand in all this (other then pakman being retarded) is why long couldn't sell the product himself? Maybe the original seller just used Long's name because he knew the product was defective.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by ejazbmw

i don't understand what your trying to get out of this thread, are you trying to make long look like a bad person? i mean i don't think people care what you say about long since he has made a name for himself here as a great guy. I mean i've read all 5pages and it seems to me all your doing it is bitching at a guy who has done more then he really had to, and I've never done business with long so im not one of his "groupies" but damn man give it break already its more annoying then anything

its about the principle of the matter. I guess part of me wants Long to realize that what he did/is doing isn't right and fix things while they still can be and I don't go digging into my own pocket to make things right with the current owner of the trim. a partial refund, a new piece... I just feel like the situation should be corrected. and if he doesn't want to or think that is the right thing he should be doing... then I want this thread to be a warning to others who might potentially do business with him to beware because what is promised to the buyer isn't always delivered... and not unrealistic expectations, but things 99.999% of people/businesses would consider normal ethical business practices.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by addy85

What I don't understand in all this (other then pakman being retarded) is why long couldn't sell the product himself? Maybe the original seller just used Long's name because he knew the product was defective.

thats possible I guess... but then Long needs to say something about that. Whether that wasn't the case or if Long is just protecting his buddy from looking bad, nobody is taking responsibility for what happened and thus I am here trying to get somebody to because I should have to lose $100 because of someone else's mistakes/bad practices.

[yoyeewee]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

not sure if you read all 5 pages but it clearly states I bought it from someone selling it for Long as a favor... one of his friends.

to me that equates to me still buying it from Long, or at least Long being responsible for anything wrong with it.

Then the guy whom you gave the money to is the one responsible for replacing, fixing, or remedying your problem.

[ejazbmw]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

its about the principle of the matter. I guess part of me wants Long to realize that what he did/is doing isn't right and fix things while they still can be and I don't go digging into my own pocket to make things right with the current owner of the trim. a partial refund, a new piece... I just feel like the situation should be corrected. and if he doesn't want to or think that is the right thing he should be doing... then I want this thread to be a warning to others who might potentially do business with him to beware because what is promised to the buyer isn't always delivered... and not unrealistic expectations, but things 99.999% of people/businesses would consider normal ethical business practices.

i don't blame you man I'd be pissed off to but i'd try to resolve this in pms or a phone call, because i would have known it would turn into a bashing fest. but good luck man hopefully long will step up