Calling all with sound upgrades

onetwentie · 10-18-2012, 01:47 PM

- i've just spent a good few hours searching and reading threads on upgrading the under seat sub woofers.

Quite a lot of threads from our friends over in the states, but mostly E90's and E92's. Anyone done this on their E91? (I know the subwoofer part will be the same, but interested in the boot area). Would be grateful if you could share pics/advice.

Here's what I (think) I know so far:

the SWS-8 is not widely available in the UK?
its a little too deep for the enclosure
it apparantly sounds good
need an amp to run them

A few questions though if anyone can shed light on the matter?

Can any kind of amplifier be used?
Do I need a LOC or is that dependant on whether I have the black or silver (stock) amp?
can the new amp be used for more than just the subwoofers?

finally is any of the above different if you have a CCC iDrive or a CIC iDrive?

thanks all in advance.[/LIST]
Also is it a pre-req to get the LOC?

lolololol · 10-18-2012, 01:52 PM

Start here mate:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641323

Mr Singh · 10-19-2012, 07:55 AM

http://www.gladen.com/compo_coax.html#one scroll down to the ONE 200 BMW 3-ways.

These will be available in the UK

parapaul · 10-20-2012, 03:53 AM

No UK dealers listed

shame, it looks a good idea.

SA320 · 10-20-2012, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parapaul

No UK dealers listed

shame, it looks a good idea.

Having read through a Few posts I'm pretty sure Mr Singh will be the one distributing them!

A good idea this set! Wonder what the price tag will be!

makkan00 · 10-20-2012, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Singh

http://www.gladen.com/compo_coax.html#one scroll down to the ONE 200 BMW 3-ways.

These will be available in the UK

+1.
And Mr. Singh's company is its distributor. Best sound for its money if you do not want to go down the Alpine route.

makkan00 · 10-20-2012, 05:46 AM

OP, Few questions for you:

1- Your budget
2- Sound preferences
3- How long are you going to keep the car?
4- Do you consider resale value of your sound system, or you don't bother and want best sound system.

These things are important before somebody can sincerely give you opinion on your sound system.

Mr Singh · 10-20-2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suraj_320

Having read through a Few posts I'm pretty sure Mr Singh will be the one distributing them!

A good idea this set! Wonder what the price tag will be!

Yup I am the UK Distributor, eventually these will be available from selected dealer outlets. Estimate UK RRP of £309. And a further £50 (2CH) for a full plug and play harness. Lots of amps to choose from, including smart sensing non remote required amps from Mosconi (ONE Series) namely the 120.4

Sparky68 · 10-20-2012, 04:52 PM

Why didnt BMW just fit phono out, life would have been so much easier.
Just want to be able to add my PG amp and MB Quart sub to my system for some added punch. Might have to go for a DDin unit. Are there many about?

parapaul · 10-21-2012, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky68

Why didnt BMW just fit phono out, life would have been so much easier.
Just want to be able to add my PG amp and MB Quart sub to my system for some added punch. Might have to go for a DDin unit. Are there many about?

Because then you'd be able to upgrade their system without giving them ANY extra money...

onetwentie · 10-21-2012, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omaragha

Start here mate:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641323

Thats exactly where I started to be fair - and now i've done so much reading i'm lost! lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Singh

http://www.gladen.com/compo_coax.html#one scroll down to the ONE 200 BMW 3-ways.

These will be available in the UK

thanks Mr Singh (ps just read your detailing thread over on DW - man that is some effort you put in!

oh and I love the Gear Knob - was it pricey?

Quote:

Originally Posted by makkan00

OP, Few questions for you:

1- Your budget
2- Sound preferences
3- How long are you going to keep the car?
4- Do you consider resale value of your sound system, or you don't bother and want best sound system.

These things are important before somebody can sincerely give you opinion on your sound system.

Mr Makkan, not sure to be honest, had it 9 months and have to admit I do like the car. Sound could be better and would like to improve it without chucking loads of money at it. I just want it to sound better, clearer when cranked and maybe a bit of a thump too.

fulcrum · 10-21-2012, 05:44 PM

I spent months trying to get a Mosconi Gladen 120.4 DSP amp -gave up.

Mr Singh · 10-22-2012, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fulcrum

I spent months trying to get a Mosconi Gladen 120.4 DSP amp -gave up.

Under the previous distributor, I can understand. Under us, if its out of stock takes 3 days to arrive in from Germany

makkan00 · 10-22-2012, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onetwentie

Mr Makkan, not sure to be honest, had it 9 months and have to admit I do like the car. Sound could be better and would like to improve it without chucking loads of money at it. I just want it to sound better, clearer when cranked and maybe a bit of a thump too.

Go for alpine kit route then.
If money allows upgrade your underseats you L7 subs.

makkan00 · 10-22-2012, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fulcrum

I spent months trying to get a Mosconi Gladen 120.4 DSP amp -gave up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Singh

Under the previous distributor, I can understand. Under us, if its out of stock takes 3 days to arrive in from Germany

Mr. Singh, how much does this amp usually cost?

Mr Singh · 10-22-2012, 05:25 AM

Mosconi Gladen 120.4 = £349
Mosconi Gladen 120.4 DSP = £449

makkan00 · 10-22-2012, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Singh

Mosconi Gladen 120.4 = £349
Mosconi Gladen 120.4 DSP = £449

Many thanks. Sounds decent price for what they can do.

DSP can take differential input, but can amp take differential input without DSP?

Mr Singh · 10-22-2012, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makkan00

Many thanks. Sounds decent price for what they can do.

DSP can take differential input, but can amp take differential input without DSP?

Yup no issues with hi/lo floating inputs. Yes I suspect it can there would be an option to bypass the DSP, assuming that's what your asking?

makkan00 · 10-22-2012, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Singh

Yup no issues with hi/lo floating inputs. Yes I suspect it can there would be an option to bypass the DSP, assuming that's what your asking?

Yes, I wonder if DSP can be skipped and if amp can take direct signals by HU (as JL amps can after coding to hi-fi) or through LOC (as JL amps can) than that is a really good option.

fulcrum · 10-22-2012, 06:33 AM

Oh hell you lot will have me wanting to re start the project and me spending money again!

At least the Earthquakes are now like gold dust which should deter me.

mistryn · 10-22-2012, 06:33 AM

^^ +1 I would be interested to know this as well

onetwentie · 10-22-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makkan00

Go for alpine kit route then.
If money allows upgrade your underseats you L7 subs.

out of interest, what does the alpine kit cost? someone on here said that if you already had the tweeters front and rear, then the alpine upgrade wouldn't do much for you?

maybe its worth heading down the coding route first and coding the HU to top hifi? Mak?

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