E85 dyno today with jb4

skinrock · 08-24-2012, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by neilvosko

that is insane.

not long before we get the n54 500hp club

We've already hit 500 and 600 and 650 for that matter on upgraded turbos...

Also, he never provided a baseline.

OpenFlash · 08-25-2012, 12:14 AM

A dyno graph would also be nice.

Markyd83 · 08-25-2012, 08:27 AM

I'll get one up this morning. Totally forgot about this thread.

Markyd83 · 08-25-2012, 09:12 AM

Dyno chart. I'm curious on your thoughts.

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neilvosko · 08-25-2012, 12:01 PM

yeah,

but it would interesting to hit 500 on stock snails

whats the max they can push?

Deemo · 08-25-2012, 12:24 PM

damn nice!

OpenFlash · 08-25-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Markyd83

Dyno chart. I'm curious on your thoughts.

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Nice dyno. I used to have a Dyno Dynamics dyno myself. Just an FYI, that's a "fudged" dyno result. My guess is that the dyno owner adjusted his dyno to read higher (maybe comparable to Dynojets/Dynopacks). This isn't sneaky or bad in any way. It was just done since the dyno owner probably got tired of people being unhappy with low numbers. This is because the standard Dyno Dynamics calibration would put a max power stock turbo tune at ~380whp. It reads that much lower than other dynos (even lower than Mustang Dynos using their standard calibration)

If you wanted to see how your numbers match up with most of the other dynos posted on this forum, it would be worth to run your car on a Dynojet since it cannot be fudged and is more of an apples to apples comparison.

I will say that Dyno Dynamics dynos make the absolute best tuning tools. I used to do all my tuning on them and only then go to a Dynojet to see how it stacked up in comparison to others.

Cheers,
Shiv

bigdnno98 · 08-25-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markyd83

Dyno chart. I'm curious on your thoughts.

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Nice dyno. I used to have a Dyno Dynamics dyno myself. Just an FYI, that's a "fudged" dyno result. My guess is that the dyno owner adjusted his dyno to read higher (maybe comparable to Dynojets/Dynopacks). This isn't sneaky or bad in any way. It was just done since the dyno owner probably got tired of people being unhappy with low numbers. This is because the standard Dyno Dynamics calibration would put a max power stock turbo tune at ~380whp. It reads that much lower than other dynos (even lower than Mustang Dynos using their standard calibration)

If you wanted to see how your numbers match up with most of the other dynos posted on this forum, it would be worth to run your car on a Dynojet since it cannot be fudged and is more of an apples to apples comparison.

I will say that Dyno Dynamics dynos make the absolute best tuning tools. I used to do all my tuning on them and only then go to a Dynojet to see how it stacked up in comparison to others.

Cheers,
Shiv

The dyno dynamics here is known as "the heartbreaker". Lol. I did put down great numbers last time though. 406hp/480tq. As a comparison a kleeman tuned c63 put down 371hp and a stock e90 m3 put down 301hp. So.... 106 more hp than a stock m3. I can live with that

Markyd83 · 08-25-2012, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markyd83

Dyno chart. I'm curious on your thoughts.

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Nice dyno. I used to have a Dyno Dynamics dyno myself. Just an FYI, that's a "fudged" dyno result. My guess is that the dyno owner adjusted his dyno to read higher (maybe comparable to Dynojets/Dynopacks). This isn't sneaky or bad in any way. It was just done since the dyno owner probably got tired of people being unhappy with low numbers. This is because the standard Dyno Dynamics calibration would put a max power stock turbo tune at ~380whp. It reads that much lower than other dynos (even lower than Mustang Dynos using their standard calibration)

If you wanted to see how your numbers match up with most of the other dynos posted on this forum, it would be worth to run your car on a Dynojet since it cannot be fudged and is more of an apples to apples comparison.

I will say that Dyno Dynamics dynos make the absolute best tuning tools. I used to do all my tuning on them and only then go to a Dynojet to see how it stacked up in comparison to others.

Cheers,
Shiv

I understand what you are saying. My friend that came with me and has a 135i. He has had his dynoed at other places and his put down 410/445 with downpipes 50/50 mix of meth Afe intake and jb4. He has put down very similar numbers at other dynos. And his baseline was 290 with tune set to 0 and no e85. Not arguing because I know all the work you do and follow everything you have done and have thought about jumping ship to do a single next fall so just explaining the scenario.

Sneeze · 08-25-2012, 10:34 PM

Awesome numbers! 500tq at 3800rpm! With this kind of power it should put you in the low 11s if you can lauched your car corectly. Of course good weather, weight reductions, tires etc. comes into play.

PR3CI5N · 08-25-2012, 10:41 PM

Nice numbers! I'll be in that ball park very soon

Dave W. · 08-25-2012, 10:45 PM

edited, too.

Sneeze · 08-25-2012, 10:58 PM

^^^ edited

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boostaholic786 · 08-25-2012, 11:45 PM

Those numbers seem right to me especially them testing the c63 and m3 which goes to show you how low the dyno reads. Its not like the dyno operator went and changed some things around for a customer that wants to see high dyno numbers. Dyno Dynamics read very low compared especially to a dynojet

335inDe · 08-26-2012, 12:20 AM

very high imo..here is my dynojet with G5 board and meth...if i had to guess ou are about 395-405 max...

Gugs · 08-26-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dmbfan1717

very high imo..here is my dynojet with G5 board and meth...if i had to guess ou are about 395-405 max...

What psi of boost are you running and what fuel in tank 93 gas?

335inDe · 08-26-2012, 12:32 AM

21psi boost limit 60/40 E85/93 with 75 meth additive on 70% meth mix

enrita · 08-26-2012, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dmbfan1717

21psi boost limit 60/40 E85/93 with 75 meth additive on 70% meth mix

I agree way too high. You are All out with your setup so his should be lower considering mods .

Markyd83 · 08-26-2012, 08:20 AM

I'm running 93 mixed with the e85. Boost was hitting 17.8 or 17.9(cant remember which) at 5350rpms or so

Gugs · 08-26-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dmbfan1717

21psi boost limit 60/40 E85/93 with 75 meth additive on 70% meth mix

I think u have a boost leak or something to that effect.
I was making similar power as you with just dci and e85. -.-

enrita · 08-26-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Gugs

I think u have a boost leak or something to that effect.
I was making similar power as you with just dci and e85. -.-

His boost is perfectly on target.
Your dyno was reading high as well . Do you really believe that your car can put down over 410 whp with just dci and e85?

jippii ensio · 08-26-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Markyd83

I'm gonna go back next week and do some baseline numbers. I know the delta means a world of difference so I will find out.

This is what you could have done. The numbers don't mean anything unless you take the base line at the same time. =same ambients, same dyno settings

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neilvosko Lieutenant Colonel 89 Rep 1,529 Posts Drives: 335i e92 FBO Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: miami iTrader: (19)	yeah, but it would interesting to hit 500 on stock snails whats the max they can push?
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Sneeze Captain 32 Rep 793 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LA iTrader: (3)	Awesome numbers! 500tq at 3800rpm! With this kind of power it should put you in the low 11s if you can lauched your car corectly. Of course good weather, weight reductions, tires etc. comes into play. Last edited by Sneeze; 08-25-2012 at 10:56 PM..
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boostaholic786 Captain 40 Rep 623 Posts Drives: E92 N54 with MHD Custom flash Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Plano TX iTrader: (0)	Those numbers seem right to me especially them testing the c63 and m3 which goes to show you how low the dyno reads. Its not like the dyno operator went and changed some things around for a customer that wants to see high dyno numbers. Dyno Dynamics read very low compared especially to a dynojet __________________ [SIZE="2"]Crimson Red E92 335i M-sport 6-speed with MHD custom stage 2+ flash only , 40% E85/93 mix,+ HRE P40S wheels, KW Clubsport, M3 sways,+BMW performance CF Mirrors, BMW Performance CF deck lid spoiler,+ CF interior trim, p3 vent boost gauge,+ LUX angel eyes (11.73@124mph on street tires)
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Markyd83 Captain 28 Rep 917 Posts Drives: 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	I'm running 93 mixed with the e85. Boost was hitting 17.8 or 17.9(cant remember which) at 5350rpms or so
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