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      05-10-2014, 07:55 PM   #23
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No my friend, it says supports 500-550WHP. The garrett numbers for that CHRA support 640BHP so yes our support numbers are accurate according to Garrett.
In the native housings, sure they do. In the housings you're stuffing them into. No, they don't. The wheels are only part of the equation. You don't feel your advertising is a little bit deceiving?
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Where do you see 70whp gain on the pure turbo? That guy is comparing pump gas dyno to high octane dyno. So he dyno 320whp stock turbo and 390 pure so thats 70whp? Lmao i make 373whp on my stock turbo so does this mean once i add the pure upgrade im going to make 443whp?
You know what they say about leading a horse to water...

If you can't see the 70 whp gain posted in the other thread, then there's not much I can do for you. Also, Darkhold is not comparing pump gas to high octane. He is comparing similar mods and fuel with the stock turbo and then the turbo upgrade.
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Nothing any of you guys say makes sense. Now we have 335iffm saying N55 never make 389 whp in Europe and that 340whp is equivalent to our 389whp n55 yet dark holds graph show final results of 392ish whp which is the same as what terry made on his dyno here in the usa
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No my friend, it says supports 500-550WHP. The garrett numbers for that CHRA support 640BHP so yes our support numbers are accurate according to Garrett. Lets not forget they also told everyone it "made" 450WHP and when in fact the user showed 450BHP, but they never bothered to correct until something was said forcing them to. Big difference between quoting what a wheel combo will support and telling people what it made. So far ours has made 477 and holds every N55 stock frame record, but the wheel combo will support much more according to Garrett this is a fact, and not a number we came up with. I also find is quite entertaining they are taking a european dyno that reads BHP and then converting it to WHP and calling it gospel. Bottom line, until they get it one on a DJ and show 70WHP no one will know. Time will tell. Cheers
But you don't say that wheel combination can support that power, you say your TURBO can support that power. It has never got close to the power so your numbers are pure speculation too. Don't act like your marketing BS is better than his marketing BS. That is why we want real world numbers because we can't believe the BS numbers posted by some companies.
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Does anyone else see the irony in VTT's logo? I mean you have arrows that go from cold to hot in what would look to me to be very quickly. Then you have VTT which could very well be Very shorT Tempered. I don't know maybe it is just me. Just wondered if anyone else saw this.

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This is all great discussion. But honestly its moot until they get it on a DJ and show those gains, are DJ's the most accurate dyno, or the worlds best dyno? Absolutely not, but for whatever reason they have become the standard to compare WHP numbers on many platforms including this one. So far on a DJ they have shown 45WHP gain. Those are the facts, moving on, there is no need to discuss it further.
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I see you find yourself super witty and funny, but this is a business thread. Continue doing what you are doing and I will have you and your posts removed from it. Thank you.
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LOL, its all in good fun. Just figured I would prove a point since you are so adamant about dismissing real numbers from a professional dyno team, of which also have zero stock in any company of which is not your own. I may live in Europe, but I am military stationed here and am lucky to enjoy the simple pleasures over here.
Anyway, my point is that I have everything one could add to a n55 and I am still on a stock turbo. I consistently run 40-45% E85 on this set-up, and while it may not be exactly apples to apples comparison to what Darkhold had originally, it will be damn close.
I think the ignorance that is implemented in your statements to somehow negate what Darkhold has said is preposterous. The only thing that was done is to give the community not yourself the info one would need to make the decision to either go with one company for a bit of a cheaper price or another option. That is not to say that your opinion does not matter, but it does not necessarily give you the right to make such bold statements completely denying said claims.
Either way, I myself will be able to attest to Darkholds claims very soon, of course they will only be fly by the seat data not empirical data. I can ensure you though that I will give the best explanation possible since I also have a similar set-up.
I hope this clears the air a little bit and settles your appetite to dominate the competition as well.

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Nothing any of you guys say makes sense. Now we have 335iffm saying N55 never make 389 whp in Europe and that 340whp is equivalent to our 389whp n55 yet dark holds graph show final results of 392ish whp which is the same as what terry made on his dyno here in the usa
You keep dragging posts from other threads into this one. Go to the other thread where this information is stated, quote it and ask your question.

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