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      10-19-2017, 06:23 PM   #1
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60k mile drivetrain lubrication overhaul for a little over $100

My Rwd auto 328i is about 400 miles shy of 60,000 miles. I plan on doing oil change, tranny fluid change, and differential fluid change. Pretty sure the tranny fluid and diff fluid have never been changed since the car left factory. Changing all these oils should result in a smoother ride and many more fun filled miles to come.

Cost break down:

Castrol Edge 0W-40 7 quarts...$22.88+(7.99*2)=38.86
Mann Oil filter...$10
Mobil 1 75W-90 synthetic diff oil 1 quart...$12.99
Supertech Dexron 6 tranny fluid...6 quarts....$30
Fluid transfer pump...$10

Total...$101.85 and about 3 hours of your time.
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My Rwd auto 328i is about 400 miles shy of 60,000 miles. I plan on doing oil change, tranny fluid change, and differential fluid change. Pretty sure the tranny fluid and diff fluid have never been changed since the car left factory. Changing all these oils should result in a smoother ride and many more fun filled miles to come.

Cost break down:

Castrol Edge 0W-40 7 quarts...$22.88+(7.99*2)=38.86
Mann Oil filter...$10
Mobil 1 75W-90 synthetic diff oil 1 quart...$12.99
Supertech Dexron 6 tranny fluid...6 quarts....$30
Fluid transfer pump...$10

Total...$101.85 and about 3 hours of your time.
If you check the oil forum over at Bob's you'll learn that the M1 oil is not what it used to be. I have heard a lot of feedback from Porsche technicians who complain about very high bearing wear with it now. I've seen Blackstone reports with it and it's never going anywhere near my car.

As for that transmission fluid, it does not meet the Shell M-1375.4 specification for ZF transmissions or the GM spec (which I can't recall).

I've been using Liquimoly ( notTop Tec 1200 as originally posted..) EDIT: TopTec 1800 in the GM for tens of thousands of miles and it's VERY good. I'd never put $5 a quart oil in my transmission, you may not care.

I hope you also bought the filter for the transmission, if the fluid needs to be changed, the filter needed it a long time ago.

I can vouch for the LiquiMoly gear oil for the diffs. It's not as quiet as the ZF brand but the Blackstone reports look a hell of a lot better.

You get what you pay for.
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The GM GA6L45R calls for Dexron VI which is a very strict spec. Any licensed product will be fine.
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If you check the oil forum over at Bob's you'll learn that the M1 oil is not what it used to be. I have heard a lot of feedback from Porsche technicians who complain about very high bearing wear with it now. I've seen Blackstone reports with it and it's never going anywhere near my car.

As for that transmission fluid, it does not meet the Shell M-1375.4 specification for ZF transmissions or the GM spec (which I can't recall).

I've been using Liquimoly Top Tec 1200 in the GM for tens of thousands of miles and it's VERY good. I'd never put $5 a quart oil in my transmission, you may not care.

I hope you also bought the filter for the transmission, if the fluid needs to be changed, the filter needed it a long time ago.

I can vouch for the LiquiMoly gear oil for the diffs. It's not as quiet as the ZF brand but the Blackstone reports look a hell of a lot better.

You get what you pay for.
Not sure about the diff oil, but if the Mobil 1 is no good then I'll just switch to vavoline 75w-90. Same price $12.99

I have the GM tranny, Dexron 6 is Dexron 6 regardless of the brand.
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Not sure about the diff oil, but if the Mobil 1 is no good then I'll just switch to vavoline 75w-90. Same price $12.99

I have the GM tranny, Dexron 6 is Dexron 6 regardless of the brand.
Save for the additive package, that's true. Some that meet Dextron VI also meet higher spec's, the LiquiMoly is one such oil. Both are fine, but as the Blackstone reports I've run on all the other LiquiMoly products have been incredibly good, I stuck with that. Depending on how long you want to keep your car, $4 a liter may buy you some lower gear wear.

LiquiMoly tested better than Redline, which I had run prior.

I also use Ceratec in the diffs. Some guys in Germany ran some tests on the manual transmissions and diffs a while back and the gear wear with Ceratec was dramatically better.
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I've been using Liquimoly Top Tec 1200 in the GM for tens of thousands of miles and it's VERY good. I'd never put $5 a quart oil in my transmission, you may not care.
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Save for the additive package, that's true. Some that meet Dextron VI also meet higher spec's, the LiquiMoly is one such oil. Both are fine, but as the Blackstone reports I've run on all the other LiquiMoly products have been incredibly good, I stuck with that. Depending on how long you want to keep your car, $4 a liter may buy you some lower gear wear.
Top Tec ATF 1200 is not suitable for applications that call for Dexron VI: https://products.liqui-moly.com/top-tec-atf-1200-5.html
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Top Tec ATF 1200 is not suitable for applications that call for Dexron VI: https://products.liqui-moly.com/top-tec-atf-1200-5.html
Ah yes, my bad.. 1800 is the one you want. I'll edit the other post so nobody makes a mistake.

http://www.liquimoly.co.rs/e-shop/fi...%201800_EN.pdf

It's $13.95 at BAV https://www.bavauto.com/3687lm
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Why will it be a smoother ride?
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission.
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Why will it be a smoother ride?
Everyone knows when you change your oil your suspension gets more supple.
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Everyone knows when you change your oil your suspension gets more supple.
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Everyone knows when you change your oil your suspension gets more supple.
Well.... I'm just saying that it's not like adding new (or different) oil changes the statistical calculations of the tolerance buildup between the various parts of the drivetrain, but maybe that's what the OP thinks
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Only 60k miles?

Pics of car please.
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Everyone knows when you change your oil your suspension gets more supple.
Hmm, I wonder what it can do for the espousa's smile lines and crow's feet?
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I did my trans fluid at 62k and, to me, the effort and $ was worth it.

My car had lived a previous life of short trips, so I thought it prudent for such a major component.

Peace of mind for $250 (with tranny filter) is about as cheap as peace of mind comes these days.

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Only 60k miles?

Pics of car please.
It's a 2011, thats why the miles are a little lower than average. Don't have pics right now but you can just picture it in your head. It's a jet black 2011 328i rwd sedan with black dakota leather interior. Cold weather package, and the value package with those 17 inch wheels. Car is mostly stock with the exception of a RE Ikon axle back exhaust.

Appearance wise, the car looks 100% stock. I don't even have window tints.
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It's a 2011, thats why the miles are a little lower than average. Don't have pics right now but you can just picture it in your head. It's a jet black 2011 328i rwd sedan with black dakota leather interior. Cold weather package, and the value package with those 17 inch wheels. Car is mostly stock with the exception of a RE Ikon axle back exhaust.

Appearance wise, the car looks 100% stock. I don't even have window tints.
Unless you live in the desert, tints are unnecessary and do not add to the look of a vehicle, but of course, that second part is subjective.

I will add that all the glass in the wagon makes it pretty warm in direct sun, so there might be a use there...

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