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03-23-2013, 04:16 PM | #23 | ||
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03-23-2013, 04:34 PM | #27 |
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The turbos are worth almost half the cost of the kit by themselves...
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03-23-2013, 05:00 PM | #28 |
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as far as doing a kit yourself, go for it. I doing it with a 6466 with a shop now and it's just about finished. took them a couple months and you'll find by doing a quality kit independently you will still spend a very pretty penny
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03-23-2013, 05:07 PM | #29 |
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Geez, what's going on.. I don't think there's any reason for anyone to come out and tell someone that they're cheap just because they're trying to save some money.. This forum reaches out to everyone in the world from various demographics with one common interest, their BMW.
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03-23-2013, 05:08 PM | #30 | |
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03-23-2013, 05:17 PM | #31 | |
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Why are you getting butt hurt over my opinion. Since you know my finances so well to know what I can or cant afford. Why dont you buy the kit or otherwise sell your car just as you said... My point is this kit is not worth $7000 at its discounted rate. Not the turbos, not his labor, nor material adds up to $7000 or more. He himself said he can build Shiv's/FFTEC turbo kit for $2k, but since thats a single turbo add another turbo to it for $1k. Yet this guy is asking $7k at intro pricing... This guy works at $60/hour... I'm debating on getting my hands on his exhaust manifold and taking it to a local shop or sending to china for reproducing. I could like him charge an arm and a leg and idiots like yourself buy into, cause if you drive a leased bmw that must mean you have $7k to wastefully spend. You sound like an immature kid, not sure why I bothered to reply to such nonsense. |
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03-23-2013, 05:29 PM | #32 | |
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The BRZ was going to be turbo charged before it was even released. The BRZ STi should also be turbo charged. If not, the kit will be sold into that market as well. Little investment went into the kit for the BRZ and the people that did invest, were the same people that invested into the WRX and STi. You cannot compare making a kit for the E92 to a Subaru. They are no where near alike, no where near as technical, and no where near as spendy. It is comparing apples to oranges......
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03-23-2013, 05:37 PM | #33 | |
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Here is one of Perrin's kits, one of the top of the line manufacturers of aftermarket parts for Subaru and Mitsubishi. Look at what it comes with... And you are saying Vargas is ripping people off? Compared to this kit for $4,500.00, his kit is a steal!!!! To be fair, Ultimate Racing's GT35R kits are about the same. Gruppe-S's kits were also priced about the same. http://www.perrinperformance.com/sub...turbo-gtx3582r
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03-23-2013, 05:54 PM | #34 | |
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I hope BMS comes out with turbo kit. I know for a fact that they wouldn't mark up the prices just to be comparable to other big name shops. |
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03-23-2013, 06:03 PM | #35 | |
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BRZ was going to be turbo charged before being released why? Cause the investment was there... The little investment that went into A brz/frs turbo kit is about the same that went into n54, some piping, a turbo and couplers. You swear Vargas took the time or used engineer drawings to fab up equal length manifold. Your right the turbo kit for a brz is no where near as technical as the vargas kit |
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03-23-2013, 06:08 PM | #36 |
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SfValley335i, you have no clue what you are talking about. When you add up all the parts and labor and factor in the fact that this is what Tony makes a living from, you realize that the price isn't bad at all.
If you want to be a know it all then please go right ahead and make one yourself. There's already a guy that's made a single turbo kit himself. Time for you to make a twin. I think you summed up pretty well what kind of person you are. You'd steal someone else's work and send it to China for cheap replicas. That's pretty trashy. |
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03-23-2013, 06:18 PM | #37 | |
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The point was, for that kit you are paying $4,500.00. For the Vargas kit you get two turbo charges and custom manifolds among other things. If you compare their kit to other turbo kits, they are all relative. Vargas is not ripping people off by any means. It was a fair price and a great deal at Intro. If you do not agree, do not buy his kit. But stop ranting about how you can go and build the same kit for less. We will all believe it when we see it =) . But almost everyone on this entire forum knows, we probably won't ever see it.
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03-23-2013, 06:39 PM | #38 |
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03-23-2013, 07:00 PM | #39 | |
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edit: it seems most of you cali boys (no offense to the guys that don't) like to jump into threads dropping ignorant/uneducated posts then when you're called out you claim it's "your opinion". maybe it's a canadian thing, but when you have nothing of value to add to a conversation you say nothing. simply smile, grab your beaver and build a fucking igloo eh, 'cause otherwise you just make yourself look like a tool. Last edited by Wescuddles; 03-23-2013 at 07:27 PM.. |
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03-23-2013, 07:43 PM | #40 | |
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We get it. You don't think the price is warranted. Tony made you or your tuner fanboyism feelings hurt. Nobody gives a rip about your uninformed opinion. The point is simple. Vargas has added much needed competition and transparency to this market and platform. Your opinions (SFvalley and anyone else butthurt about the kit or Vargas) are not grounded in fact and are secondary to platform development. This is just like the HPF guys sandbagging any part of Saad's or MaxPsi's recently released s54 turbo kits. When the fact is... the new entries will only improve the entire platform. What Vargas did in 3+months was impressive for the n54. Until you have a cheaper SOLUTION that performs equally you are simply complaining. Your solutions proposed thus far are pipe dreams. Money talks and BS walks. Vargas collected close to $40k in deposits in a week with one prototype? How long did it take for 10 ST kits to sell? Mike p.s. who was the initial nimrod who thought a pair of gtx28 was truly $1250? Maybe he and SFvalley can get a kit going .
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03-23-2013, 07:48 PM | #41 |
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03-23-2013, 09:43 PM | #42 |
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Compared to the price of E9X M3 supercharger kits and HPF E46 M3 turbo kits Vargas pricing is a steal
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03-23-2013, 10:32 PM | #43 |
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Not talking tuning, just fab. There is very little room for upgraded twins.
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