[Teutonicdriver]

I just throw a bit more wood on the fire. Ive now got no fence, skirting boards, architrave, kitchen worktop or garden shed left and last night was reduced to burning one of the sons crutches. Whats central heating, sounds as daft as winter tyres to me.

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by TMP

But did they take into account the boiler has to work harder as the temperature has fallen more overnight ? i.e it is then in catch up mode burning more gas?

Yes he did, hence the getting up to set temp taking longer twice a day, but still claimed to use less than 24/7

[Dr Dave]

I fancy one of these Honeywell roomstats, I'd be interested as to why Will says no to wireless.

Only thing I can think of is the battery life etc and flakey wireless performance issues.

[Carrera RSR]

Originally Posted by Dr Dave

I fancy one of these Honeywell roomstats, I'd be interested as to why Will says no to wireless.

Only thing I can think of is the battery life etc and flakey wireless performance issues.

Mine has been running for over four years and I've changed the battery once. No issues with wireless in a 1860's home with thick walls.

When we refurbed the property the plumbing/heating company could run cables wherever they liked as the property was stripped. They still preferred the wireless

[willhollin]

I find some of the wireless kit unreliable. Yes it is an installers dream, very much like combi boilers, with fewer element to install to achieve the "same" effect. Don't let me put you off wireless stuff, just stick to Honeywell if you can.

[creepy coupe]

Not sure if I'm missing something, but if you all ready have a wired room stat, what's the advantage of going wireless, you still have to wire the transmitter in around the boiler area presumably?

[gIzzE]

I have been using a cheap wireless one for 6 years, changed the battery once and it works anywhere in the house, our place was originally 3 properties knocked into one so pretty spread out, the boiler is in the kitchen at one end and you can move the wireless 'stat to my daughters end which has 5 rooms between, and they are thick, thick mid 1800's walls as well, and it still works a treat.

[gIzzE]

Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Not sure if I'm missing something, but if you all ready have a wired room stat, what's the advantage of going wireless, you still have to wire the transmitter in around the boiler area presumably?

There is no advantage, well unless you want to move it around the house, but there is no need to do that really.

Many houses don't have a 'stat full stop though, and so adding a wireless one is so much easier.

[dar2008]

Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Not sure if I'm missing something, but if you all ready have a wired room stat, what's the advantage of going wireless, you still have to wire the transmitter in around the boiler area presumably?

Absolutely. Assuming you currently have a wired thermostat (I had an old dial one), then the wired Honeywell is a straight swap - ie: very easy. If you go for the wireless option, the transmitter/receiver unit has to be wired in at the boiler, which may make the task more complicated depending on the boiler and your level of electrical experience. That said, with a wireless setup, you can then move the actual thermostat around the house with you which may be desireable.

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by dar2008

Absolutely. Assuming you currently have a wired thermostat (I had an old dial one), then the wired Honeywell is a straight swap - ie: very easy. If you go for the wireless option, the transmitter/receiver unit has to be wired in at the boiler, which may make the task more complicated depending on the boiler and your level of electrical experience. That said, with a wireless setup, you can then move the actual thermostat around the house with you which may be desireable.

Ok- so you take you wire free stat to another room, say the office upstairs, because that room's is slightly chillier, so doesn't that mean the rest of the house is baking hot?

So someone in the living room is roasting. I can see their point for not having to run wires, but moving around the house?

[davyk31]

If I replace my dial room stat in the hall with a wired Honeywell one what benefits will I experience?

And what about the current programmer / timer out at the boiler, how does the new stat affect its need or operation ? Oil fired central heating by the way.

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by davyk31

If I replace my dial room stat in the hall with a wired Honeywell one what benefits will I experience?

And what about the current programmer / timer out at the boiler, how does the new stat affect its need or operation ? Oil fired central heating by the way.

You will need to switch the boiler to it's continually On position, then your new stat will become you programmer. Make sure you get a programmer and not just a stat though

[Carrera RSR]

Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Ok- so you take you wire free stat to another room, say the office upstairs, because that room's is slightly chillier, so doesn't that mean the rest of the house is baking hot?

So someone in the living room is roasting. I can see their point for not having to run wires, but moving around the house?

All the rads in each room should also have thermostats as well set to the desired max room temp which may be lower than the 'comfort' temp of the wireless thermostat. The lounge and bedrooms have no limit on their 'stats so can be put as hot as desired by the wireless controller.

My wireless is permanently in the lounge. The wireless option is redundant tbh. No matter how hot I want the lounge certain rooms have temp limits eg, entrance hall, utility, as these rooms are having the chill taken out of them and don't need to be at 22deg at any time of the day/year.

Hall and kitchen have limits of 22deg so if I put the temp in the lounge to 25 I am not wasting energy in the rooms that don't need the heat.

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by Carrera RSR

All the rads in each room should also have thermostats as well set to the desired max room temp which may be lower than the 'comfort' temp of the wireless thermostat.

My wireless is permanently in the lounge. The wireless option is redundant tbh. No matter how hot I want the lounge certain rooms have temp limits eg, entrance hall, utility, as these rooms are having the chill taken out of them and don't need to be at 22deg at any time of the day/year.

So are you saying if someone's in the back office with the portable stat, then others should go around turning rads up/down, then again in reverse when they have finished?

[Carrera RSR]

Originally Posted by creepy coupe

So are you saying if someone's in the back office with the portable stat, then others should go around turning rads up/down, then again in reverse when they have finished?

I don't use the stat as portable. Its always in the lounge.

[davyk31]

Originally Posted by creepy coupe

You will need to switch the boiler to it's continually On position, then your new stat will become you programmer. Make sure you get a programmer and not just a stat though

Any recommendations for a good stat with programmer, can be wired as it will replace the knob type stat. Will any extra wiring be required or is it a simple switch over job.

Easy to understand and operate would be good, means anyone at home through the day can get a boost if they want.

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by davyk31

Any recommendations for a good stat with programmer, can be wired as it will replace the knob type stat. Will any extra wiring be required or is it a simple switch over job.

Easy to understand and operate would be good, means anyone at home through the day can get a boost if they want.

http://www.honeywelluk.com/Products/...le-Thermostat/

Have look at this.

[Walesy]

Originally Posted by willhollin

I find some of the wireless kit unreliable. Yes it is an installers dream, very much like combi boilers, with fewer element to install to achieve the "same" effect. Don't let me put you off wireless stuff, just stick to Honeywell if you can.

The wireless stuff has come on leaps and bounds, we now use wireless sensors in BMS/controls installations as they have progressed in recent years and become more reliable and without having to replace the batteries every 2 mins. Allows us to keep costs down by cutting out electrical contractors.
Funny thing is, I had a friend who had issues with a wired Honeywell stat at home, he changed to that one I bought (in previous ebay link) and has never looked back, personal experience and preference I supose.

[doughboy]

21deg? ffs!

put a jumper on man.

we use this prog stat... http://www.heatmiser.co.uk/domestic.htm

its a great prt (programmable room stat) with full separate hot water and heating controls for only £40.

suits all boiler types and control voltages and switching methods.

[TMP]

So guys, why is Honeywell so good over other brands?

[TMP]

Originally Posted by Walesy

The wireless stuff has come on leaps and bounds, we now use wireless sensors in BMS/controls installations as they have progressed in recent years and become more reliable and without having to replace the batteries every 2 mins. Allows us to keep costs down by cutting out electrical contractors.
Funny thing is, I had a friend who had issues with a wired Honeywell stat at home, he changed to that one I bought (in previous ebay link) and has never looked back, personal experience and preference I supose.

mate, did you replace the old wired stat with the base unit of this wireless one ? Someone else mentioned it needs to be wired into the boiler which sounds v.difficult

[dar2008]

Originally Posted by TMP

So guys, why is Honeywell so good over other brands?

Why do we buy BMW's over other brands...

Honeywell is just perceived (probably correctly) as a better quality brand/product.