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      06-04-2015, 12:24 AM   #573
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Do you have idrive or Pro Radio ?

Do you have idrive or Pro Radio ?
I have been told you can only get a combox with idrive.
If you have idrive you might consider a NBT upgrade.
Some of the newer pro radio's have bluetooth , usb and sat radio built
in but need antenna's Mikes and cables plus coding.
On the older ones everything is on seperate modules.

If you don't want to invest time into this you might ask
Bimmertech what they can do for you.
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Do you have idrive or Pro Radio ?
I have been told you can only get a combox with idrive.
If you have idrive you might consider a NBT upgrade.
Some of the newer pro radio's have bluetooth , usb and sat radio built
in but need antenna's Mikes and cables plus coding.
On the older ones everything is on seperate modules.

If you don't want to invest time into this you might ask
Bimmertech what they can do for you.
The car has Idrive and BMW US Radio. Is bimmertech in LA?
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      06-17-2015, 12:27 PM   #575
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Anyone in New England able to do this coding?
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Is this the ComBox I need for my E92 2011 (MY2010.12) ?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Combox-Media-...item2353a63fa6
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Thanks, if I buy it new, will it also be sold naked/bulk, or should there be any kind of cable/bolts included?
I will buy the OEM retrofit harness/kit, maybe thats enough?
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cable and bolts in retrofit kit
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I guess I'm in the same boat as many folks here. I just purchased a 2011 328iX with navigation, voice control, and Harman Kardon upgrade, but no bluetooth.

My VIN decoder says

Grade KF33
Model 328I XDRIVE US (United States)
Development Code E92 (MUE)
Chassis COUPE
Steering LL
Doors 2
Engine N52K
Displacement 3:00
Power 172
Drivetrain ALLR
Transmission MECH
Color Titanium Silver metallic (354)
Upholstery Dakota leather / D1 coral (LCD1)
Production Date 2011-02-23

Options

S1CAA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES
S203a Wheel-drive system
S2C6A LM wheels star-spoke 189 MIXING.
S2VBA TIRE GAUGE
S403a Glass roof, electrical
S459A Seat adjustment, ELEKTR.MIT MEMORY
S481A Sport seats for driver / passenger
S494A Seat heating for driver / passenger
S4B9A INT.LEISTE Fine Brushed Aluminium
S502A Headlight washers
S508A Park Distance Control (PDC)
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK
S544A CRUISE CONTROL. WITH BREMSF.
S563A Lights package
S570A Stronger POWER
S609A Navigation system Professional
S620A Voice control system
S688A Harman / kardon Surround Sound System
S693A Satellite tuner PREPARATION
S697A AREA CODE 1
S6FLA USB audio interface
S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION
S6VCA CONTROL COMBOX
S760A Individual high-gloss Shadow Line
S840A High-speed set
S880A ENGLISH / board literature
S8S4A DECODING VARIABLE LICHTVERTEILUN
S8SCA Country-. TELESERVICEFREISCH.
S8SPA COP CONTROL
S8TLA DAYTIME front and rear ACTIVE
S8TNA DAYTIME superluminal MENU SET
S925A SHIPPING protection package

Standard Equipment

S521A RAIN SENSOR
S522A Xenon light
S524A Adaptive Headlights
S5AKA LED lighting elements
S5DSA KOFFERRAUMNOTENTRIEGELUNG
S645A RADIO CONTROL US
S823A HOT COUNTRY version
S845A ACOUSTIC seat belt warning
S850A Add. Single tank EXPORT
S853A ENGLISH LANGUAGE VERSION
S876A RADIO FREQUENCY 315MHZ
S992A CONTROL PLATE FIXING

So from reading all the posts here, turning on Bluetooth should be possible with just a recode, but I may need to add an additional Bluetooth antenna and possibly add a second mic? Would a dealer be able to recode to enable bluetooth or would I need to find someone else?
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Go to the Bimmertech website

Go to the Bimmertech website
they have support in most parts of the US
mostly in the larger metro areas.
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I guess I'm in the same boat as many folks here. I just purchased a 2011 328iX with navigation, voice control, and Harman Kardon upgrade, but no bluetooth.

My VIN decoder says

Grade KF33
Model 328I XDRIVE US (United States)
Development Code E92 (MUE)
Chassis COUPE
Steering LL
Doors 2
Engine N52K
Displacement 3:00
Power 172
Drivetrain ALLR
Transmission MECH
Color Titanium Silver metallic (354)
Upholstery Dakota leather / D1 coral (LCD1)
Production Date 2011-02-23

Options

S1CAA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES
S203a Wheel-drive system
S2C6A LM wheels star-spoke 189 MIXING.
S2VBA TIRE GAUGE
S403a Glass roof, electrical
S459A Seat adjustment, ELEKTR.MIT MEMORY
S481A Sport seats for driver / passenger
S494A Seat heating for driver / passenger
S4B9A INT.LEISTE Fine Brushed Aluminium
S502A Headlight washers
S508A Park Distance Control (PDC)
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK
S544A CRUISE CONTROL. WITH BREMSF.
S563A Lights package
S570A Stronger POWER
S609A Navigation system Professional
S620A Voice control system
S688A Harman / kardon Surround Sound System
S693A Satellite tuner PREPARATION
S697A AREA CODE 1
S6FLA USB audio interface
S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION
S6VCA CONTROL COMBOX
S760A Individual high-gloss Shadow Line
S840A High-speed set
S880A ENGLISH / board literature
S8S4A DECODING VARIABLE LICHTVERTEILUN
S8SCA Country-. TELESERVICEFREISCH.
S8SPA COP CONTROL
S8TLA DAYTIME front and rear ACTIVE
S8TNA DAYTIME superluminal MENU SET
S925A SHIPPING protection package

Standard Equipment

S521A RAIN SENSOR
S522A Xenon light
S524A Adaptive Headlights
S5AKA LED lighting elements
S5DSA KOFFERRAUMNOTENTRIEGELUNG
S645A RADIO CONTROL US
S823A HOT COUNTRY version
S845A ACOUSTIC seat belt warning
S850A Add. Single tank EXPORT
S853A ENGLISH LANGUAGE VERSION
S876A RADIO FREQUENCY 315MHZ
S992A CONTROL PLATE FIXING

So from reading all the posts here, turning on Bluetooth should be possible with just a recode, but I may need to add an additional Bluetooth antenna and possibly add a second mic? Would a dealer be able to recode to enable bluetooth or would I need to find someone else?
you do not need second mic, this configuration is for old Idrive(CCC). You need bluetooth antenna and cable to Combox, any may be reroute MIC from Idrive to Combox.
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      11-21-2015, 04:09 PM   #583
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Nothing coming up yet...

So I finally got my coding cable and laptop configured correctly. I was successful in coding and adding options for my backup camera mod, so I think I am set up correctly.

I added $644 to VO in both CAS and NFRM and reset CIC and MEDIA. I even did the whole car SG_RESET, but I still do not have PHONE showing up on my menu screen.

I have 2011 E92 with Nav, USB, and voice control. What am I missing here?
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The phone bit wasn't already there? Even though mine's not activated, there's still a phone section.
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Hi everyone. Great thread here, I've been reading through it for the past couple of days before posting. I am in the process of purchasing a 2008 E90. It has everything I wanted except premium. No big deal, the two important things for me are the bluetooth phone and the auto-dimming mirror. The mirror looks like an easy retrofit (100 on ebay), leaving just the bluetooth.

I have 6fl, so from what I gather, I already have the MULF. What I am a little confused about is the wiring. I have an option called SA639 which says it's prewired for phones. Does this mean I already have a mic cable? I haven't seen much mention of this before.

Below is my vin, if someone would be willing to give me advice on exactly what needs to be done, I would really appreciate it.


Vehicle Identification Number WBAVB73548VF51062
Type VB73
Model 335i - USA
Development Code E90
Chassis LIM
Steering LL
Doors 4
Engine N54
Displacement 3.00
Power 225
Drivetrain HECK
Transmission MECH
Color Black Sapphire Metallic - 475
Upholstery Leder Dakota/terra - LCB8
Production Plant LEIPZIG
Production Date 2007-09-28


Options
1CA Selection Cop Relevant Vehicles
2AB Alloy Wheels Ellipsoid 162/mischb
2VB Tyre Pressure Indicator
249 Multi-function For Steering Wheel
255 Sports Leather Steering Wheel
4AC Fine-wood Trim Poplar Grain
403 Glas Roof, Electric
441 Smokers Package
459 Seat Adjustm., Electr. W. Memory
481 Sport Seats F Driver/front Passenger
494 Seat Heating F Driver/front Passenger
5GA Prep. Anti-theft Alarm System
521 Rain Sensor
522 Xenon Light
524 Adaptive Headlights
534 Automatic Air Conditioning
544 Cruise Control With Braking Function
563 Lights Package
6FL Usb-/audio Interface
639 Complete Prep. Cellular Phone Usa/cdn
677 Hifi System Professional
693 Satellite Tuner Preparation
694 Preparation For Cd Changer
704 M Sport Suspension M Sportfahrwerk
8SP Cop Control
818 Main Battery Switch
840 High Speed Synchronisation
925 Shipping Protection Package


Standard Equipment
3AP Windscreen With Grey Shade Band
497 Centre Armrest In Rear
520 Foglights Nebelscheinwerfer
645 Radio Control Us
663 Radio Bmw Professional
823 Hot Climate Version
845 Acoustic Belt Warning
850 Add Fuel Tank Filling For Export
853 Language Version English
876 Radio Frequency 315 Mhz
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The mirror looks like an easy retrofit (100 on ebay)
Hold the phones, tell me more about this. I looked into this once and recall it being not nearly so simple, I'd LOVE to be corrected on this. Got links?

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Also, yeah, by the looks of things, you have a pretty much ideal setup for retrofit. 6FL with that production date means you definitely have a MULF in the trunk, the prewire option is consistent with the production date (I think they took it out as of sometime around 09 for the LCI models), so yes, you should have a mic and BT antenna cable already in place. So that leaves the mic, antenna, and coding. You can cheap out on the antenna, but it would require getting creative with RF plugs and adapters - no problem if you know what you're doing, but much easier to just buy the factory part if not.

ToDo:
-Buy factory antenna. ($50ish?)
-Buy factory mic. ($70ish?)
-Install antenna next to the MOST diagnostic header in the pedal trim
-Install mic in the FZD module (drop the headliner with the screws under the sun visor clips to get at the metal retention clips for the FZD).
-Code (add $644 to the VO in the CAS module, and SG_RESET all modules simultaneously).

More detailed guides for each of those steps exist in this thread and elsewhere, but that outline should give you enough to make searching for them easy.
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Hold the phones, tell me more about this. I looked into this once and recall it being not nearly so simple, I'd LOVE to be corrected on this. Got links?

EDIT:
Also, yeah, by the looks of things, you have a pretty much ideal setup for retrofit. 6FL with that production date means you definitely have a MULF in the trunk, the prewire option is consistent with the production date (I think they took it out as of sometime around 09 for the LCI models), so yes, you should have a mic and BT antenna cable already in place. So that leaves the mic, antenna, and coding. You can cheap out on the antenna, but it would require getting creative with RF plugs and adapters - no problem if you know what you're doing, but much easier to just buy the factory part if not.

ToDo:
-Buy factory antenna. ($50ish?)
-Buy factory mic. ($70ish?)
-Install antenna next to the MOST diagnostic header in the pedal trim
-Install mic in the FZD module (drop the headliner with the screws under the sun visor clips to get at the metal retention clips for the FZD).
-Code (add $644 to the VO in the CAS module, and SG_RESET all modules simultaneously).

More detailed guides for each of those steps exist in this thread and elsewhere, but that outline should give you enough to make searching for them easy.
I really appreciate it. This is great news! So, if I understand you correctly, I likely won't need to get under the rear seats and run any cable? Everything I do will be up front? (Or do I still need to run the antenna from the trunk?)


Here is a link to an autodim diy: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653095

There's also a diy for the autodimming side mirrors, but it honestly doesn't seem worth the trouble (I hear a lot of people dislike them at twilight and I'm going to have a mild tint on the car anyway).
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I really appreciate it. This is great news! So, if I understand you correctly, I likely won't need to get under the rear seats and run any cable? Everything I do will be up front? (Or do I still need to run the antenna from the trunk?)


Here is a link to an autodim diy: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653095

There's also a diy for the autodimming side mirrors, but it honestly doesn't seem worth the trouble (I hear a lot of people dislike them at twilight and I'm going to have a mild tint on the car anyway).
I had dimming sides on a rental once and man, was that nice. I didn't drive long enough to know how I'd like it in general, though.

As for cables, you're right. I believe you shouldn't have to go in the trunk at all. And you only need to install those two boxes up front, so you don't need to go ripping out every panel in the car.
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I had dimming sides on a rental once and man, was that nice. I didn't drive long enough to know how I'd like it in general, though.

As for cables, you're right. I believe you shouldn't have to go in the trunk at all. And you only need to install those two boxes up front, so you don't need to go ripping out every panel in the car.

Well that's fantastic news. Thanks for the advice!
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coding is pretty easy w the regular cable if you have the hardware in place. (you basically are adding the options to your vehical order (VO) + resetting the radio which should be all you need.

typiclly no need to code theMULF itself... however in this case you would need an OPS cable.
I had the coding done today. I confirmed what I thought, and both 620 and 640 were active, and he added 644 to the CAS, NFRM, and CAPPL( nav/radio) then reset them all except the 2MULF which wouldn't work. He mentioned he thought he'd need a MOST unit to reset that. I'm hoping that is why people say if the car rests for 15 minutes, that will reset and everything will work.

I now have the blue tooth section on my iDrive menu, and can queue up to pair, however I've been unable to get my phone to pair (or even see) the car. I'll wait an hour so and try again, and see if that'll do it.

Hopefully, it will connect and I'll confirm all I need to do is repin the mic, and add an antenna into the trunk.

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Update:

So I was having trouble pairing my phone, but it turned out it was because of the weak BT signal with no antenna. putting the phone in the back seat immediately found the car, and I performed the pin access and voila, I was online. Car started downloading my contacts, so I tried a call out. Person couldn't hear me but I could hear them. had to turn the volume up a bit, but it sounded great. Radio automuted perfectly.

So I'll be grabbing an antenna and repinning the mic, and should be all set. Can't believe I waited so long for this. doh.

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Can someone confirm this is the correct OE part?

http://www.shopmercedesbmwonline.com...FYEfHwod3JwH7w

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I don't know the part number, but it looks visually correct.
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This website says its a fit with my model.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...FQotHwodgXwIdw

I'm going to quickly make sure I don't have one already in there, that's just unplugged.

I'm hoping to have full BT calling capability for Christmas.
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Awesome!

As per this bulletin:

https://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/attachments/B841405_E9x.pdf

Going to see if I can add Bluetooth to my 2006.
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