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07-31-2013, 06:46 PM | #45 |
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Also working on a true piano black...ad hopefully some other piano colors soon.
This is just sample of a light switch cover....it is usually what I play/practice with. This is not finished and waiting to dry before I sand it smooth and polish it out, but I think it is going to be an awesome deep color. Just a quick picture...without any regard for lighting or anything else. Thoughts?
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What are you using to do the piano black with?
Also, can you clarify a bit on the process? You just wrap the existing pieces in carbon fiber cloth and use resin, then even it out with sanding, polish, and clear coat? And it still fits? I was under the impression that resined CF cloth was a good couple millimeters thick, meaning it would be difficult to fit these pieces back in place and you'd instead have to be making moulds of them to lay the CF in.
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Actual CF fabric is very thin, but after a few coats of resin it can start to build up thicker obviously. Actual OEM BMW trim is wrapped also...it is not 100% CF. They do CF parts for many of them but on trim it is easier to wrap and resin...So it is not too thick to wrap, resin and clear then put them back in without fitment issues.
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Yes, I am going to order on 8/5 from kaze-speed...what about you?
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How much should I expect to pay for CF fabric, resin, and other supplies? Also, how would you recommend practicing? I have no issue getting dirty and learning proper coating and sanding procedures, so I want to get plenty of practice in first.
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When I do something new, like the piano black above, I use a light switch plate cover...It is nice to practice with and won't take long to do it. I love molded pieces, but some things aren't conducive to molding...like the trim. BMW does mold their CF mirrors and epoxies the tabs inside, but $600+ for CF molded mirrors is a little much for me...when I can wrap existing mirror covers and have them look the same for MUCH less, even if I had to buy new mirror caps. The weight savings with molded pieces to wrapped is HUGE, but most of us aren't racing and don't need to save the weight when we are just trying to make our cars look better.
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Here are some bad cell phone pics of the rear Mtech bumper diffuser and the front splitters. I am picking the car up Monday and will be able to get more pics then.
The diffuser came out nice, even if it was a pain in the butt!
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That's a good job. For the diffuser did you use one piece of cf fabric
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Thanks! Yes one piece of cf fabric. I have used multi pieces on a piece before. If done correctly, you can't really notice, but it is more difficult, since you really want to line up the pattern.
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Well the diffuser looks fantastic. Nice work.
I'm curious if the process of applying resin would work with either the carbon fiber style vinyl or cloth, rather than the real thing. I imagine that if the resin took to it, the end result would look a lot like the real deal - it seems that the gloss and depth that comes from the resin coating is what makes real CF so distinctive looking. If so, it would be a fantastic option for interior trim, better than just the normal vinyl wrap. Also, really want to do some real CF mirrors, how hard was working with the curved surface?
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I wonder if CF vinyl would stand up to the resin though. The resin hardens through a chemical reaction that generates a lot of heat. I wonder if it would damage the CF vinyl. If you're going through the work of resin, I'd just use the real cloth. It's a little trickier to work with, but for me, the resin was always the hardest part. And I hated all the sanding. I was never on this level though, mostly just small parts for stereo stuff.
I did buy a vacuum pump for some AC work and now that it's over, I have nothing to do with it. Maybe I'll set up a vacuum table and mess around with CF parts. Quote:
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Real CF cloth would be preferable, it's just the matter of price. For just screwing around, practicing, etc., it would be nice to use a cheaper material. I've got another swatch of CF vinyl lying around somewhere. Maybe I'll see about picking up some resin and seeing how it comes out.
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I don't think it is worth using CF vinyl with resin. Resin heats up pretty good as it dries and it could melt through it. It has actually melted through a solo cup when the left over resin is drying in the cup. Plus the trouble of putting resin over vinyl isn't worth it. Just pay a little extra for the real CF fabric. It is not only the resin that gives it the look we are after, but the real CF has so many strands of fabric in it, it is unreal. Each strand is actually about as thin as a human hair. Once the weave is achieved, you really get the depth and 2 tone color variations you won't get with vinyl. If you have some resin laying around, try it, but I don't think you would be happy. Plus the cost benefit isn't that much. The majority of the CF process is just labor intensive when working by hand because there is so much sanding between layers regardless of what material is under it. The tough part of the mirrors is getting the material to lay down without puckering because of the curve. Just have to take your time and pay attention. When I did mine, I ended up pulling a piece of Cf off and starting over because I didn't like the way it laid down. I am finishing up a second pair now and it is was easier to work with because I have done it before. For each new piece I do, I learn something that will help if I ever do another. Patience is the key to all of it though. Quote:
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Thanks! I am going out later today and do a quick photo shoot. Hopefully I will get some good pics so I can post. I will probably start a new thread when I do.
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I love the Cf diffuser...and to say I did it myself gives me some satisfaction when I see it.
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all of it looks great but i really think the splitters should be painted. i may be bias though
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Thanks! I debated going painted splitters versus CF...chose CF because of all the CF accents on the car.
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damn you must have crazy patience. your pieces all came out super nice. i made a cf splitter for my a4 long time ago and damn that shit was a brutal process.
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