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      05-01-2013, 05:45 PM   #1
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Request for CPO wisdom/experience

Gents and ladies of e90post,

We got a CPO 2007 e90 335i for my daughter and her beautiful mother... But at this point definitely regret it. The car has 109k miles. Yesterday, without warning the car died in traffic. Luckily, they weren't on the freeway or the results could have likely been fatal.

The repair estimate this time says: "P/S pulley came apart allowing belt to come off and wind up in front crank pulley". The items that need to be replaced as per the estimate invoice are power steering pulley, fan belt and front crankshaft seal for a total of $1226.21. It's also listed that the motor mounts are collapsed and leaking, for $755.58.

Aside from sourcing parts from a low cost website and finding an Indy to do the work for a better hourly wage and other basic ways to reduce the cost of this failure, what are my options? Additionally, how does a pulley "come apart"? Aside from dismounting...? Does CPO come in to play here?

Any help or wisdom is greatly appreciated- I don't like feeling like my daughter is endangered because shes coached around in a car that periodically dies on us without warning...
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      05-01-2013, 05:50 PM   #2
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That's a bad situation. CPO only covers up until 100k.

On my old e46 my serpentine belt came off and did a ton of damage; it happens.

You should find a good Indy mechanic. They'll fix it for a fraction of the cost.
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First off, since the car has 109k miles on it any CPO coverage would be expired based on mileage. Seeing as this is a known issue, it may be worth a call to BMWNA to attempt for some goodwill assistance.

Make sure the subframe is checked for contact and the reason for the contact is determined and rectified, otherwise you could be in the same situation shortly after having the repairs done.

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E90, E92, E93 (3 Series) with N54 engine up to 4/08 except xi models

SIB 11 09 08

The models listed above utilize a single serpentine drive belt for the power steering pump, alternator, and air conditioner compressor. During normal driving, the front engine mounts allow the engine to move slightly on the front axle carrier. However, under extreme conditions, such as driving at high rates of speed over curbs or speed bumps, the engine movement can result in the serpentine belt or power steering pump pulley contacting the front engine carrier. If this occurs, the belt and/or pump pulley could be damaged.

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When diagnosing a complaint related to a broken drive belt or a drive belt which has come off the pulleys, it is important to carefully examine the power steering pump pulley for any signs of damage.

If there is no damage to the pulley, continue with normal troubleshooting.

If the pulley is chipped or cracked, then the pulley and the belt must be replaced.

In cases where the pulley has been damaged, the front axle carrier should be examined for any signs of contact in the area below the power steering pump pulley.

If the axle carrier has any sign of contact, then the carrier must be replaced. For E90, E92, and E93 vehicles produced up to 3/19/07 which require replacement of the front axle carrier, the left side engine support (P/N 22 11 6 760 317) must also be installed.
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Gents and ladies of e90post,

We got a CPO 2007 e90 335i for my daughter and her beautiful mother... But at this point definitely regret it. The car has 109k miles. Yesterday, without warning the car died in traffic. Luckily, they weren't on the freeway or the results could have likely been fatal.

The repair estimate this time says: "P/S pulley came apart allowing belt to come off and wind up in front crank pulley". The items that need to be replaced as per the estimate invoice are power steering pulley, fan belt and front crankshaft seal for a total of $1226.21. It's also listed that the motor mounts are collapsed and leaking, for $755.58.

Aside from sourcing parts from a low cost website and finding an Indy to do the work for a better hourly wage and other basic ways to reduce the cost of this failure, what are my options? Additionally, how does a pulley "come apart"? Aside from dismounting...? Does CPO come in to play here?

Any help or wisdom is greatly appreciated- I don't like feeling like my daughter is endangered because shes coached around in a car that periodically dies on us without warning...
The advice is to fix it on the cheap and get rid of it.
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The advice is to fix it on the cheap and get rid of it.
My thoughts in a nutshell as a permanent solution... Main purpose for the thread was to see if there was any way that this could have been prevented, because the car had been in the shop the week prior to this incident and was passed off after an "inspection"... Suppose there was nothing in the inspection process concerning the serpentine belt and the aforementioned parts?
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As BMW_TECH said, apparently it's a known issue. Certainly worth bringing it up to the dealer, or BMW NA. A few phone calls might save you some money, even if its a partial savings on the repair.
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First off, since the car has 109k miles on it any CPO coverage would be expired based on mileage. Seeing as this is a known issue, it may be worth a call to BMWNA to attempt for some goodwill assistance.

Make sure the subframe is checked for contact and the reason for the contact is determined and rectified, otherwise you could be in the same situation shortly after having the repairs done.

Is this something as a 2007 328i owner with 76,000 miles on it I should be worried about and have looked into before my warranty expires in June? I would love to know the things to as for prior to that date ?
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My thoughts in a nutshell as a permanent solution... Main purpose for the thread was to see if there was any way that this could have been prevented, because the car had been in the shop the week prior to this incident and was passed off after an "inspection"... Suppose there was nothing in the inspection process concerning the serpentine belt and the aforementioned parts?
Who did the inspection?
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Is this something as a 2007 328i owner with 76,000 miles on it I should be worried about and have looked into before my warranty expires in June? I would love to know the things to as for prior to that date ?
Applies only to N54 powered vehicles.
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Is this not an issue for the XI's? only the 2wd??
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