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      10-24-2013, 12:28 AM   #1
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hpfp ?? please help

I was driving from work at about 1am i decided to wot on second gear for some fun and outbof nowhere i got engine malfunction reduced power and the ses light.....but i got no other codes ... what can this be fuel pump? Injectors turbos? Sorry for bad spelling jus really scared my car has 102k miles please help!!!! Have nvr had this problem before please help
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      10-24-2013, 12:35 AM   #2
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I have a 2007 e90 335i 102kmiles have had it since 40k and its never had the fuel pump fail can this finally be it help needed
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      10-24-2013, 03:17 AM   #3
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I used to get this because my sparkplugs were bad. I changed it and it fixed it. Have you changed your plugs?
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      10-24-2013, 09:44 AM   #4
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Does it take a while to crank now? That's a common symptom of the HPFP going out. If it is, don't worry, you're still well within the 120k mile warranty on it.
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      10-24-2013, 11:20 AM   #5
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I dont have warranty i bought it used...
Spark plugs were changed at 100k and no does not take long at crank.. thats why im confused about wat it could be
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      10-24-2013, 12:36 PM   #6
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He was refering to the warranty on the pump. The HPFP is covered by factory warranty up to 120,000 miles.
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      10-25-2013, 12:11 AM   #7
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Oh ok .... and was wondering can be the injectors/
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      10-25-2013, 01:43 AM   #8
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I pretty much have the exact same problem as you right now. I had to put the gas down earlier this week to get out of an intersection and I got the "full engine power not available" sign. Trying to figure out exactly what is causing the problem at the moment. I'm not getting any power out of the car when i put the pedal to the floor.

Anyone have any recent documents from BMW Canada that I might be able to show to my dealerships in case they try to argue with me regarding and HPFP service?
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      10-25-2013, 01:41 PM   #9
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I think it my be the fuel pump and im make an appointment does anyone know if the bms dci can void that warranty?
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      10-25-2013, 02:56 PM   #10
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I don't think any DCI's will void the warranty. Mostly depends on the dealership, but you should be alright.
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      10-26-2013, 12:53 AM   #11
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Nope turned out to be a fuel injector cylinder one is misfiring anyone has any info on that?
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      10-26-2013, 01:04 AM   #12
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If it's HPFP, I believe BMW extended the new car coverage for that part to 10 years and 120K miles. You're safe perhaps?

It could be other things and these are the two I know of. If you get the first, you'll likely get the second too because when the technicians fix the waste gate problem it seems the effectiveness of the seals is compromises and they don't hold securely causing a loss of pressure. Estimated cost to repair, based on what I was told when mine went bad (under warranty) is $5K.
- Turbo waste gate
- Turbo seals

I will pray for you that it's not what I've described above or HPFP.

This is one of those things that is why I don't recommend buying a used 335i. I say that only for prospective used car buyers who may happen upon this post/thread. I know it's useless info for you, OP. Sorry.
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Its not the hpfp its a fuel injector cylinder 1 any info on that?
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You'll have to replace injectors 1, 2 & 3 (all on bank one) at the same time because BMW came up with a new injector model that is not compatible with the old model. They'll probably charge you $300 per injector for parts plus about 4 hours of labor... Go grab your wallet and a tube of Vaseline... Sorry about your luck ;(
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Its not the hpfp its a fuel injector cylinder 1 any info on that?
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You'll have to replace injectors 1, 2 & 3 (all on bank one) at the same time because BMW came up with a new injector model that is not compatible with the old model. They'll probably charge you $300 per injector for parts plus about 4 hours of labor... Go grab your wallet and a tube of Vaseline... Sorry about your luck ;(
Well, it could be worse. At least $1400K isn't such a huge amount in comparison to some other things it could have been.

I think, Gizm0, I'd suffer a blow to my pride more willingly than I would lose a leg. I may not walk right for a few days, but I'll still be walking.

All the best
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      10-27-2013, 10:44 PM   #16
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mine, just did the same thing. I could restart the car and it would act normal again until i punched it over 3k. once i did that it would go back to running poorly and having a really bad idle. I have been able to repeat the process a few times now. I'm currently out of town but i will sending my back to the shop to figure out whats going on.

keep us updated as to what you find out and if it fixes the problem.
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Off topic but what is this 120K warranty on the water pump. I have seen this ever where here, but i don't understand if it applies to me or not. I am assuming it is 120k Miles. Does that apply only to cars In the US or does it apply all over NA? Reason i ask is because i am at 100k KM on my car and on the original water pump.
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I got a reduced power message and SES light before too when punching the throttle on the highway. Usually came up during WOT at a certain RPM, restarting the car would solve the problem. I too thought it was the sparks or injectors, but all were changed within less than 10k miles ago and fuel pump replaced due to recall even though I never experienced problems with it up to 60k.

Finally got it checked and I believe there should be specific codes thrown and even misfire codes in cylinder 1 and 3 or one of them, i forget. The low pressure fuel sensor was the culprit and that surprisingly even brought my car back to life like when I first bought the car.
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Off topic but what is this 120K warranty on the water pump. I have seen this ever where here, but i don't understand if it applies to me or not. I am assuming it is 120k Miles. Does that apply only to cars In the US or does it apply all over NA? Reason i ask is because i am at 100k KM on my car and on the original water pump.
I don't know about there being a 120K mile warranty on the water pump. I know of it (or something like 120K...it might be 110K?) on the HPFP. Turbos had their new car warranty coverage extended to 82K miles.

Check www.BMWusa.com for more scoop, or contact your local dealer. I suspect too if you search for it, one of the several BMW forums on the web will have the specifics of it posted somewhere.

All the best.
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You'll have to replace injectors 1, 2 & 3 (all on bank one) at the same time because BMW came up with a new injector model that is not compatible with the old model. They'll probably charge you $300 per injector for parts plus about 4 hours of labor... Go grab your wallet and a tube of Vaseline... Sorry about your luck ;(
If it's in fact the injectors, these may be covered under warranty depending on build date (4/2007-10/2008). Included pdf.
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      10-28-2013, 11:06 AM   #21
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Could be any of the following:
Vacuum tank leak, loose low pressure fuel pump. Manifold sensor. Same symptom you are having. Get codes read by dealer to find out
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