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      11-06-2013, 09:13 AM   #111
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Exhaust note for the Macan Turbo is up on the Porsche Macan Microsite, and it sounds pretty damn good!
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That does sound good and certainly distinctly Porsche even in V6 guise as opposed to flat 6. I loooooooooooooove the sound of the S65 and the Macan will need to at least have some of that aural experience for me to go for it.
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I agree, that exhaust sound does sound good.
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My previous post is totally my view. I still don't see how a small SUV will be sportier then a sedan…Porsche can only "bend" the laws of physics so much.

I drop off my 3 year old at school most days in my 991, zero issues. I could not fit a child behind me though, Im too tall. So two kids won't work unfortunately.
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It's interesting that the picture of the Macan exhaust tip pictured are the squared version. If the various postings going around the net are somewhat true, that the square exhaust tips are for the S and the oval(round shape) are for the Turbo. Then this might be the sound the Macan S.
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It's interesting that the picture of the Macan exhaust tip pictured are the squared version. If the various postings going around the net are somewhat true, that the square exhaust tips are for the S and the oval(round shape) are for the Turbo. Then this might be the sound the Macan S.
That clip is from the turbo.

They are wrong. The square tip cars have the red calipers and the dual LED strips up front, which is the Turbo.

Plus, look at the turbo models that are out now, all rectangular exhaust tips. Rectangular exhaust tips are an option on the lower tier models.
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Anyone seen info wether the Macan will get an Audi sourced Torsen diff or Porsche's own clutch based awd system?
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Anyone seen info wether the Macan will get an Audi sourced Torsen diff or Porsche's own clutch based awd system?
I have read that Porsche was going to use their own unit.

We will know for certain on the 20th... Hopefully.
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My apologize to those, that I doubted. It definitely seems like there's two twin turbo V6 version for the Porsche Macan.

http://www.porsche**********/content...weight-figures
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Does that mean only one kid Pej ?
Only one in the 911, LOL.
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Leaked specs are out and supposedly it weighs in a bit over 4200 lbs. While that may be lighter than a Q5 or X3, that's a far cry from the supposed ~3750 lbs we've been hearing about. I hope their is something wrong with those leaked specs.
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that looks good
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Leaked specs are out and supposedly it weighs in a bit over 4200 lbs. While that may be lighter than a Q5 or X3, that's a far cry from the supposed ~3750 lbs we've been hearing about. I hope their is something wrong with those leaked specs.
That's relatively heavy taken our Cayenne's 4400 lbs and with that in mind I would be inclined to think it has an Audi Torsen diff and not Porsche's own and significantly lighter clutch based AWD system that adornes the Cayennes ( except the diesel and hybrid that has Audi Torsen diff systems ).
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Leaked specs are out and supposedly it weighs in a bit over 4200 lbs. While that may be lighter than a Q5 or X3, that's a far cry from the supposed ~3750 lbs we've been hearing about. I hope their is something wrong with those leaked specs.
I was kind of disappointed as well. I wonder if it is just miscalculations since one of the Macan developers indicated 150kg less than the Q5. Although, the base Q5 weighs in around ~4,000 lbs while the SQ5 is around 4,400 lbs. Maybe the Chinese miscalculated? (is that even possible?)

200 lbs weight savings between the Macan Turbo and the SQ5 is pretty good in my opinion, since the SQ5 is the CUV range-topper at the moment.

The one funny thing that has come out of that leaked spec sheet is all of the "ZOMG, Macan Diesel has more torque than the Turbo, why is it slower!!?!? Something isn't right!" threads. :facepalm:
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That's relatively heavy taken our Cayenne's 4400 lbs and with that in mind I would be inclined to think it has an Audi Torsen diff and not Porsche's own and significantly lighter clutch based AWD system that adornes the Cayennes ( except the diesel and hybrid that has Audi Torsen diff systems ).
For reference, Cayenne Turbo is 4883 lbs.
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For reference, Cayenne Turbo is 4883 lbs.
Yes, but the 3.6 V6 Cayenne is 4400 lbs. Turbo plumbing is heavy though so I guess neither is apples to apples but 4200 lbs is a bit disappointing for a relatively small CUV built by Porsche especially if it uses their own light weight awd system.
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For reference, Cayenne Turbo is 4883 lbs.
Yes, but the 3.6 V6 Cayenne is 4400 lbs. Turbo plumbing is heavy though so I guess neither is apples to apples but 4200 lbs is a bit disappointing for a relatively small CUV built by Porsche especially if it uses their own light weight awd system.
If the base macan is like the base Q5, it should be around 4,000 lbs.

Agreed, disappointed in the weight but we'll see what shakes out next week.

0-60 in 4.8 isn't bad.
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If the base macan is like the base Q5, it should be around 4,000 lbs.

Agreed, disappointed in the weight but we'll see what shakes out next week.

0-60 in 4.8 isn't bad.
4.8s is more than fast enough. I will seriously even look at the Macan S if it can be had with an MT. The weight is more of a handling concern. I'm sure it will perform well but will it feel reasonably agile and nimble? It's a tall order for a sedan/coupe at +4000 lbs and even tougher for a car with the Macan's COG. But we'll see, if anyone can make those lbs disappear behind the wheel it's Porsche.
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makes me want one. Hopefully see it at the auto show next week.
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4.8s is more than fast enough. I will seriously even look at the Macan S if it can be had with an MT. The weight is more of a handling concern. I'm sure it will perform well but will it feel reasonably agile and nimble? It's a tall order for a sedan/coupe at +4000 lbs and even tougher for a car with the Macan's COG. But we'll see, if anyone can make those lbs disappear behind the wheel it's Porsche.
I heard with the PASM, we're looking at sportswagon height COG (at lowest setting), or it may be the seating position that's as low as a sportswagon. Heard rumors of torque vectoring on the rear axle as a standard feature. Should be a fun ride. The teaser video had shots of the Macan stepping the rear out.

If the Macan S has the 6 or 7 speed manual, that would sway me to go for the S over the Turbo.

1:08 second mark.


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I heard with the PASM, we're looking at sportswagon height COG (at lowest setting), or it may be the seating position that's as low as a sportswagon. Heard rumors of torque vectoring on the rear axle as a standard feature. Should be a fun ride. The teaser video had shots of the Macan stepping the rear out.

If the Macan S has the 6 or 7 speed manual, that would sway me to go for the S over the Turbo.

1:08 second mark.

Nice, do you mean PASM and air suspension? I would think PASM alone adds to the ride height to cater for a softer "comfort mode" with no way of changing the spring length or rate while the air suspension has the capability of changing ride height.
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Nice, do you mean PASM and air suspension? I would think PASM alone adds to the ride height to cater for a softer "comfort mode" with no way of changing the spring length or rate while the air suspension has the capability of changing ride height.
Right, PASM + Air Suspension (should be standard on the Turbo).

Looks like transmissions will be PDK across the entire line. The "sailing" feature Porsche is pushing on the Macan is unique to the PDK, which is checked as standard for all models on the spec sheet. Still holding out hope.
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