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06-27-2013, 06:40 AM | #243 | |
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06-27-2013, 08:08 AM | #244 | |
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I'm really interested in upgrading my speakers. I listen to Beyerdynamic DT990's all day at work, which makes my car sound pretty boring on the way home. I really enjoy high fidelity music.
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06-27-2013, 09:45 AM | #245 | |
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L-pad is to reduce the tweeter level to match the mid. I will draw a sketch of the Xover and post here, the Xover point is 4000hz. I used midrange straight. Last edited by Nhe261; 06-27-2013 at 10:36 AM.. |
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06-27-2013, 10:12 AM | #246 | |
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06-27-2013, 10:38 AM | #247 |
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sorry typo, should be 4000Hz. 4MHz is ultraultrasonic. Thanks for correction. Engineers LOL. Me too.
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06-27-2013, 10:46 AM | #248 |
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Before everyone goes running out to buy Scanspeak mids, know that these are drivers that were meant for home audio applications. They do not have coatings on the drivers that would protect them from exposure to moisture as most car audio drivers are due to possible exposure in the doors. They are also typically not ideal for infinite baffle applications which is what it would be whe mounted in your door. They are optimized for sealed installations so while they may sound better than the stock L7s, your not getting the full benefit of the driver (which is not a cheap one) when running it in the stock location. I've gone down this road when considering the Scanspeak 12M and felt that spending over $400 on mids and not being able to get the full benefit of the driver was not worth it.
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06-27-2013, 11:03 AM | #249 | |
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Scan 10F is usuing•Coated NRSC Fibre Glass Cone (patent), should be good for door using. and also recommanded to use 1L sealed box, the door panel is like a sealed box not open infinite baffle.
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06-27-2013, 11:09 AM | #250 |
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A door cavity behaves like IB, not sealed. Also, in our cars the speakers are mounted inside of the moisture barrier, therefore it is a completely dry application.
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06-27-2013, 11:52 AM | #251 |
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10F is pretty small compare to 12M so I think IB or sealed is not big concern. I used it as a full range plus the tweeter. More clear and musical then the stock.Im pretty happy. 12M is almost triple of the price I will not use it on the car. I used 15M for my home DIY 3.5 way tower 180lb each, happy so far.
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06-28-2013, 12:20 PM | #252 | |
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06-28-2013, 12:47 PM | #253 |
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The tweeter is a Vifa 1" soft silk dome, no plate, bare driver. I glued it in the location, and plus some dynamat pretty tight. Its 94db so I haveto reduce it 3db to match the mid. Much more detail than the stock aluminum tweeter.
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06-28-2013, 12:57 PM | #254 |
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I think he was meaning what type of components you used to build the crossover. I saw in your original post you used Solen components but if you could share the values you used that would be helpful. Also, did I read correctly that you're letting the mid roll-off naturally on the high frequency side?
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06-28-2013, 02:56 PM | #255 | |
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This is my xover if yo want filter the mid up to you. As it is- 12 dB Xover so the phase of tweeter is 180 degree so the tweeter should be wired backward. Last edited by Nhe261; 06-28-2013 at 04:03 PM.. |
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06-28-2013, 03:11 PM | #256 |
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http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...idrange-4-ohm/
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...tweeter-4-ohm/ http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...fast-cap-400v/ http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...uctors-14-awg/ http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...ductor-16-awg/ http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...ilm-resistors/ http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...ilm-resistors/ The 16 gauge inductor can be used for tweeter as it is not in the signal path, better to use 14 gauge Solen in the mid path as it has less resistor. Last edited by Nhe261; 06-28-2013 at 03:23 PM.. |
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06-28-2013, 03:39 PM | #257 | |
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I know most aftermarket component sets don't roll-off the mids too so this is not uncommon and sounds good to most people.
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06-28-2013, 04:10 PM | #258 | |
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Any xover is better than the stock ,it is just a capacitor maybe costs 10 cents. |
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06-28-2013, 08:30 PM | #259 |
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I was using a mono amp to drive the in trunk 12" sub, I alway feel missing some low mid. When my door mid is shaking I use my hand to touch the underseat woofer, I feel nothing. It likes not moveing at all. I think the stock amp is too weak to drive theunderseat.
Today I changed the mono amp to a 4 ch 4x110w amp, use front chs to drive the underseat woofers (need to cut the wires to the woofers and reconnect to the 4 ch amp). Use rear chs to drive the 12". Wow wow, the low mid is back. The music is complete. Even in a very low volume the underseat can feel moving. Do laugh at my sub, I hate to frill my truck and back seat. My setup is very tight and totally restorable. Not best looking though but who cares. Last edited by Nhe261; 06-28-2013 at 08:44 PM.. |
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06-28-2013, 09:07 PM | #261 |
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4 ch amp, front ch power the front underseat woofers, rear ch power the 12" sub. use LOC signal to the amp front ch, front ch has a pre-out, use this pre-out signal to the rear ch. front and rear has own volume and filters. use HP about 80 Hz to the front, LP 100 Hz to the 12" sub.
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