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Originally Posted by Ali-323i

Dude, your whole car looks sweet!! Very nicely done!

Thanks Brah
I see you got the CF trim as well (nice)

Now all I need is a decent stereo upgrade to go with it, stock hifi is so bad

[Ali-E90]

Originally Posted by Socket

Thanks Brah
I see you got the CF trim as well (nice)

Now all I need is a decent stereo upgrade to go with it, stock hifi is so bad

You've come to the right place! I had base audio (you think YOU got it bad??), but after heavy research here I'm very happy (but still tweaking) my system.

Changed out the HU for a double din screen (no idrive), JL 700/5, 3-way drop in kit, and a JL 10" in the boot.

[ctuna]

Assuming you know what the output of NBT is
Hi Fi, base or L7 everything should be the same.
Although I here the f30 hi fi has a 5th channel .
Don't know it that comes from the amp or head unit.
I would look up Technic on one of the boards he is still
on or at his site and also talk to the NBT guys.

[kimoboy]

So which is good replacement for the under seat sub.

[ctuna]

Jehnert is you are adding an amp
assuming you are not a bass head and want full mid bass and mid range that is warm and accurate.
and its not that lacking on low bass either.

model xe-200

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MTX Audio TX6.BMW

Another drop-in (theoretically) replacement kit for BMWs, found out about this one today and did some digging around: MTX Audio TX6.BMW, around 330 GBP, some lower prices found (techniauto.es).

- available in EU only although MTX is a US company.
- Wouldn't be at their best until amplified by an aftermarket amp.
- very few testimonies available, most likely at the lower end of the HiFi scale.

http://www.mtxaudio.eu/products/cara...category_id=67

Just adding for the sake of completeness. If you're tempted to go find reviews, tests etc, I would say don't bother but maybe you'll get lucky. I found one (French) install in a BMW 5 series with base audio, and the owner said just adding the tweeter made a big difference...reading between the lines he wasn't blown away. Did read a few comments along the lines of "stay away from the brand" which may apply only to their low end gear.

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About the Focal IFBMW-S component kit, the current documentation excludes the E92 and E93 from the compatibility list. There is also a review left on the Focal home page by a very disappointed man saying he purchased the kit for his E92/3 and couldn't install it, and that his pleas for help were ignored by Focal for four months and maybe more.

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About the Focal ISBMW-Sub.V2 BMW-specific subwoofer, this is the current compatibility information as found on the Focal web site and translated by me:

Compatible Vehicles:

BMW Série 1 (E81/82/87/88)*
BMW Série 3 (E90/91/92/93)*
BMW X1 (E84)*

* Compatible with base-level audio systems. Not compatible with Business or Top Hifi.
List of vehicles is not exhaustive.

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So now that the Focal IFBMW-S component kit for the E92 specifically is out of the question, what other speaker upgrades besides the Focal 100KRS do you guys recommend or know that fits?

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i-sotec BM8 BMW speaker set

http://www.soundpressure.se/Bil-HiFi...e/BM8%20isotec

Listed as a drop-in component kit with a pair of tweeters, midrange drivers and underseat woofers. Priced in Swedish Kronas equivalent to around 310 euros or 340 USD. The package includes a pair of crossovers.

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Rockford Fosgate T3-BMW2 Power BMW 2-Way Component System Style-2

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t3-bmw2

Listed as a direct replacement compatible with the E92 fronts amongst others. For an idea of the price, Crutchfield sell 3 different BMW kits each retailing at 600 USD.

1-SERIES 2004-2011
Coupe (E82) Front
3-Door (E81) Front
5-Door (E87) Front
Convertible (E88) Front
3-SERIES 2005-2011
Coupe (E92) Front
Sedan (E90) Front, Rear
Touring (E91) Front, Rear
Cabrio (E93) Front
5-SERIES 2011-Current
Sedan (F10) Front, Rear
Touring (F11) Front, Rear
6-SERIES 2011-Current
Coupe (F13) Rear
Convertible (F12) Rear
7-SERIES 2008-Current
Limousine (F01) Front, Rear
X1 2009-2012
SUV (E84) Front

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Rainbow Audio: here is a compatibility table for their current range. There are speakers that will work with the E92.

http://www.rainbow-audio.de/wp-conte...te_2015-11.pdf

And here is the list of items listed as tailored/suited for BMW:

http://www.rainbow-audio.de/en/speak...ence-line/bmw/


PS: I don't mean to spam and I apologize if I repost data, but these latest posts from me are to highlight items that are specified as compatible with the E92. It's not always easy to dig up all the information in a long thread, plus it's been a few years since Kaigoss started this great thread and it might help those of us still looking out for E92 solutions.

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MATCH by Audiotec Fischer: a range of products offering straight replacements for OEM.

HELIX - this range of products was and may still be referenced as Helix products.

For BMW: http://www.audiotec-fischer.de/lng/e...ducts/speaker/

For E92 specifically...

MS 83C-BMW.1: 3-way set (underseat, door mid, tweeter)
http://www.audiotec-fischer.de/lng/e...s-83c-bmw.html

MS 42C-BMW.1: 2-way set (door mid, tweeter)
http://www.audiotec-fischer.de/lng/e...s-42c-bmw.html

Both underseat subs are compatible, not sure if one is the older version or just two different offerings...

MS 8B-BMW.2: underseat woofer
http://www.audiotec-fischer.de/lng/e...s-8b-bmw2.html
MS 8B-BMW.1: underseat woofer
http://www.audiotec-fischer.de/lng/e...s-8b-bmw1.html

NB: universal version MS 42C not expected to work according to dimensions shown in user manual (min 44.5 mounting depth).

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ESX (brand of Audio Design GmbH Germany)

They have some BMW-specific products compatible with quite a large number of models including the E92.

VS100C BMW: 2-way component set (door mid, tweeter)
http://www.esxaudio.de/pages/vision/vs100c.htm
VS200W BMW: underseat sub (speaker only, no enclosure)
http://www.esxaudio.de/pages/vision/vs200w.htm#

VS200C BMW (VS100C BMW + VS200W BMW): 3-way complete package.
http://www.esxaudio.de/pages/vision/vs200c.htm

Described as semi-active so requiring some amplification. The following excerpt is taken from the installation manual:
"The VS200C BMW is a partially active 3-way sound system that must be operated by a 4-channel amplifier or two 2-channel am- plifiers! These amplifiers must have an adjustable low-pass filter on 2 channels and an adjustable high pass filter on the other 2 channels. Please refer to the instructions in section „6. Amplifier Interconnection“."

"The midwoofers and tweeters must be driven in any case by a high pass filtered channel pair, otherwise the speakers could be damaged with too low frequencies."

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MB Quart - current offering (web page)

QM200.3BMW 3 way BMW speaker system: discontinued
http://mbquart.com/qm200-3bmw/

Coming soon - possible candidates for 8" underseat swap...

DS1-204 Shallow 8" Subwoofer:
http://mbquart.com/ds1-204/
"MB Quart Discus 400 Watt 8 inch shallow mount subwoofer with dual 4 ohm 2 inch voice coils, thermal formed poly cone, vented aluminum former and butyl surround. Less than 3 inches mounting depth."
Specifications
POWER HANDLING RMS: 200 watts, POWER HANDLING PEAK: 400 watts, IMPEDANCE: 2 x 4 Ohm, SENSITIVITY (1 WATT / 1 METER): 81dB, CUT-OUT Ø: 7.24" (184mm), CHASSIS DEPTH FROM FLANGE: 2.80" (71mm)

MS1-204 M-Line shallow 8" subwoofer:
http://mbquart.com/ms1-204/
"Description
This dual voice coil MS1-204 shallow subwoofer has been designed applications where space can be an issue. With only 2.7 inches of mounting depth, the MS1-204 can fit in any bench seat, gunnel or shallow compartment without giving up much space at all. Designed to perform optimally in small sealed applications, the M-Line MS1-204 delivers deep pounding tight bass is a tiny space."

Specifications: POWER HANDLING RMS: 200 watts, POWER HANDLING PEAK: 400 watts, IMPEDANCE: 2 x 4 Ohm, SENSITIVITY (1 WATT / 1 METER): 81dB, CUT-OUT Ø:7.24" (184mm), CHASSIS DEPTH FROM FLANGE: 2.80" (71mm)

...And that's pretty much it, no other evidence of 4" components.

[McPikie]

Originally Posted by RunFlatOut

MTX Audio TX6.BMW

Another drop-in (theoretically) replacement kit for BMWs, found out about this one today and did some digging around: MTX Audio TX6.BMW, around 330 GBP, some lower prices found (techniauto.es).

- available in EU only although MTX is a US company.
- Wouldn't be at their best until amplified by an aftermarket amp.
- very few testimonies available, most likely at the lower end of the HiFi scale.

http://www.mtxaudio.eu/products/cara...category_id=67

Just adding for the sake of completeness. If you're tempted to go find reviews, tests etc, I would say don't bother but maybe you'll get lucky. I found one (French) install in a BMW 5 series with base audio, and the owner said just adding the tweeter made a big difference...reading between the lines he wasn't blown away. Did read a few comments along the lines of "stay away from the brand" which may apply only to their low end gear.

Circa £330. Looks promising

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Originally Posted by McPikie

Circa £330. Looks promising

It could be. From reading around it seems like MTX is a company that has released some quality products and earned their share of supporters, but may be guilty of the usual production of lower quality items to gain sales volume. We'd really need some feedback from MTX owners and from people who have in-depth understanding of driver manufacturing to figure out what this set is capable of.

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Ground Zero Audio

GZRC 100FX
- reference in original post, no longer exists on GZ website
- still sold by itself or as part of BMW kits in some stores.
- replaced by reference: GZRC 100FXII

GZRC 100FXII: 2-way component set (4" door mid, 1" tweeter) with crossover
http://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/...c-100fxii.html
- described as 'sold out' on GZ web site.
- still available in some stores, sometimes as part of a kit.
- E92: should be ok with door mid mounting depth of 30mm.

GZIC 400FX: 2-way component set (4" door mid, 1" tweeter) with crossover (wire)
http://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/...zic-400fx.html
- not explicitly listed as BMW-compatible but dimensions seem to fit.
- E92: should be ok with door mid mounting depth of 30mm.

GZRC 13XII: 2-way component set (4" door mid, 1" tweeter) with crossover
http://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/...114104553.html
- included for reference; mounting depth of 50mm@door.

GZMW 200NEO: 8" subwoofer
http://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/...mw-200neo.html
- listed as specific to BMW on some vendor sites.
- not expressly listed as BMW-specific on GZ web site but they sell a speaker bracket made for BMW.

GZBR 200BMW
http://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/...br-200bmw.html
"20 cm/8" Speaker bracket for BMW. Can be combined with GZMW 200NEO 8" sub"

GZ BMW Kit - Active
http://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/...it-active.html
GZ BMW Kit - Passive
http://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/...t-passive.html
- Two bundles (4" door mid/1" tweeter/8" underseat sub) that are still listed on their web site.
- still reference the old GZRC 100FX but possibly making use of newer references.
- still shown as available in some stores so if interested be sure to double-check for availability and specific references of the components being sold.
- E92: yes in theory since they reference 30mm mounting depth items, but should be checked carefully.

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ETON

The information is spread over different web sites:
Primary Eton web site: http://www.eton-gmbh.com/
Car-specific products: http://upgrade-audio.de/

Online catalog 2016:
http://www.eton-gmbh.com/kataloge/ET...016/index.html
BMW Annoucement:
http://www.eton-gmbh.com/no_cache/en...n-bmw-systeme/
BMW compatibility chart:
http://www.eton-gmbh.com/fileadmin/_...1afcb4b370.jpg
BMW Model Selector:
http://upgrade-audio.de/custom-fit-speakers/bmw.html

2-way component set (4" door mid, 1" tweeter) with wire crossover:
- exact specs not easy to find, tracked down a couple of values:
- 50W SPL
- recommended: 60/250
- 4 Ohm (this one is certain)

Reference Layouts:
E9x 3-series reference layout: E90, E91, E92, E93
http://upgrade-audio.de/media/wysiwy...series_E90.jpg
Fxx 3-series reference layout: F30, F31, F34
http://upgrade-audio.de/media/wysiwy...series_F30.jpg
Other models: reference layouts available for most models. The compatibility information for the 100N model is a good starting point if you can't find your model:
http://upgrade-audio.de/ug-bmw-b-100-n.html

Product Links:
UG BMW B-100 T: for E90, E91, E92, E93 and others.
http://upgrade-audio.de/ug-bmw-b-100-t.html
http://upgrade-audio.de/custom-fit-s...w-b-100-t.html
UG BMW B-100 W: for F30, F31, F34 and others.
http://upgrade-audio.de/b-100-w.html
UG BMW B100 W2: for X5/X6 F15, F85, F16, F86
http://upgrade-audio.de/ug-bmw-b100-...ge-system.html

UG BMW B 100 N: multi-role set (4" mid, 1" tweeter)
http://upgrade-audio.de/ug-bmw-b-100-n.html
- front center speaker in 3-series E9x.
- front center or rear deck speaker in 3-series Fxx and others.
- door speakers in some SUVs, Z4 and others.

UG BMW B 150 USB: 8"Underseat Woofer
http://upgrade-audio.de/custom-fit-s...itzwoofer.html
- 4 Ohm, 150W RMS, 200W peak
- "Can be used from BMW equipment HiFi or higher."

UG BMW B 195 Neo: 8"Underseat Woofer
http://upgrade-audio.de/custom-fit-s...itzwoofer.html
- 4 Ohm, 150W RMS, 200W peak
- "Can be used from BMW equipment standard or higher."

If you need a reason to look into Eton products, they were used in a setup described by the owner as one of the best he'd ever built. The owner and installer is a certain Technic, you may have heard of him
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...php?p=17042095

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GLADEN

The current drivers available are listed on a single page here:
http://www.gladen.com/compo_coax.html

The following are tailored specifically for BMW. I did not list the kits for E46 but they can be found on the same page.

ONE 201 BMW ALPHA (Previous model ONE 200 BMW)
Car specific 3-way system for E.. Models (without E92/93)
- 4" normal ferric midrange
- 4-channel amplifier required
- Cheaper crossover
- 4*130/85W @ 4 Ohm

ONE LINE 201
Car specific 3-way semi-active system for BMW 1, 3 and 5 series (including E92/E93)
- Increased power: 4x 150/100 W
- Slimmer woofer, also P&P for F10/11...
- 25 mm silk dome tweeter, 4” shallow midrange, 8” shallow woofer
- 3 ohm impedance
- 4 channel amplifier required

ONE LINE 201 Extreme (more powerful version of ONE Line 201)
- 2*150/100W @ 3 Ohm (mid/high)
- 2*225/150W @ 2 Ohm (woofer)

The 8" underseat mid-bass woofers were not listed separately on the Gladen web site, or at least I could not find them. However they are sold by some dealers either individually or more often as identical pairs. Their power specs match those of the underseats packaged with the 3-way sets above. I will add only one link as an example but there are multiple dealers selling them at slightly different prices.

HG-201BMW-3 mid bass woofers
http://www.germaniks.com/speakers/gl...s-bmw-e6x-e9x/
HG-201 BMW-2-EXTREME mid-bass woofers
http://www.germaniks.com/subwoofers/...e-bmw-woofers/

ONE 100 BMW
- 2-way coaxial kit for 1- and 3-series
- E82/87/88/90/91/92/93
- 2*90/60W @ 4 Ohm

Also of interest, some shallow depth kits in larger diameter ( bigger than 4")
- SLIM line, depths of 32mm (5"), 43mm (6.5")
- M-LINE Slim, depth of 52mm (6.5")

The other product lines have drivers of various sizes, I won't list them all here. Some of those are 4" and may be suited for your application.

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B2 AUDIO (Denmark)

Http://www.b2audio.com

B2 Audio have just released a brand new set of BMW-specific products. The distributors will be updating their web sites to reflect the change over the coming days. The UK distributor can be found here:
http://www.bladeice.com/brands/b2-audio/
There are distributors in the US, you can find them here:
http://www.b2audio.com/dealers

Incidentally, B2 have responded to my questions and comments with phenomenal speed, professionalism and considerably more respect than I felt they deserved.
So long story short, brand new BMW-specific products from an IASCA supporting member with amazing customer support. Things are looking up

BU402C / BM402C - 3-way replacement component set for BMW
http://www.b2audio.com/bmw-3way
- 50W RMS @ 4 Ohm
- 2 crossovers supplied (one for mid, one inline for tweeter)
- full plug and play installation, down to the connectors.

BM402C compatibility:
1 series (2004-2011)-E81/E82/E87/E88(Front door)
3 series (2005-2011)-E90/E91(Front door/Rear door), E92/E93(Front door)
5 series (2011-Current)-F10/F11(Front door/Rear door)
6 series(2011-Current)-F12/F13(Front door)
7 series(2008-Current)-F01(Front door/Rear door)
X1(2009-2012)-E84(Front door)

BU402C compatibility:
1 series(2011-Current)-F20/F21(Rear window shelf)
5 series(2010-Current)-F10(Rear window shelf)F11(Roof liner)
5 series(2010-Current)-E60/E61(Front door/Rear door)
6 series(2011-Current)-F13(Rear window shelf)
X1(2009-2012)-E84(Rear window shelf)
X3(2010-Current)-F25-(Dashboard)
X5(2006-Current)-E70(Front door/Rear door)
Z4(2009-Current)-E89(Front door)
Note: BU402C can also be used in the Mini front doors (Only fits for mid-range speaker)

Manual for BU402C / BM402C:
http://www.b2audio.com/wp-content/up...M402CBU420.pdf

EL602R - 2-way component driver
- 165mm / 6.5"
- 60W RMS / 120W peak @ 4 Ohm

BMW 8" NEO underseat replacement woofer
- 100W RMS / 200W peak @ 4 Ohm
- exists in 2 versions to fit different OEM setups:
BSW8 : suitable for OEM options 'stereo' or 'standard'
BWF8 : suitable for OEM options 'HiFi' and above

Manual for EL602R, BSW8, BWF8:
http://www.b2audio.com/wp-content/up...w_3way_man.pdf

B2 have other drivers and subs so I won't list them all, maybe just draw attention to these babies if only because they are the coolest looking drivers I have ever seen, plus they are around the 4" mark.
http://www.bladeice.com/brands/b2-audio/hnt/

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Audiofrog

http://www.audiofrog.com/

Audiofrog are a fairly recent company setup by veterans in the field of car audio. Their products are built for sound quality and they describe their range as audiophile-level. The reason I write this is to warn you that Audiofrog are in a different price segment altogether compared to the previous offerings I've linked to. They do have experienced SQ amateurs and professionals giving very enthusiastic feedback about their drivers so it's not just hype.

Audiofrog are open about the fact that some of their products have been tailored for use in BMWs. They don't have an 8" replacement for the underseats yet but they say their 6.5" will do the job perfectly. Whether they would be easy to setup as underseats replacements is something to look into. They do have drop-in straight replacement drivers for 4", 1" and possibly others. The other thing to note is that their products come with good installation kits to make them work in different setups. Crutchfield have a page dedicated to Audiofrog which includes comments and suggestions from the Audiofrog developers so you can have a look there to get a better idea of how the products could be used.

Examples of products:

GS40 - 4" midrange woofer, 48mm install depth
http://www.audiofrog.com/gs40-4-120m...e-loudspeaker/
GB40 - 4" midrange woofer, 41mm install depth
http://www.audiofrog.com/gb40-4-100-...e-loudspeaker/

Sets, singles and recommendations at Crutchfield:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-LPAkJNY...-packages.html