New v4 Beta 1-20 maps posted (including Stg 4)

OpenFlash · 01-21-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vase330

Still confused. If I am seeing -9 to -11 at idle, and I install stag2 map that expects 14.5 peak what should I see then?

You're seeing that on your gauge which is mounted in the intake manifold. I'm talking about the boost reading on your procede software which reads off the tmap in the intercooler pipe (no vacuum).

Shiv

jpsimon · 01-21-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I was running 4.1 second times as well. But this was starting off at 60mph in 3rd gear cruising and then punching it all the way to 100mph. If I had started the run earlier, I'd see high 3s easily since there is no time lost for spool up. 91oct

shiv

Yep my 4.09 was starting in 3rd just before 60mph and punching it

mwahlert · 01-21-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We toned down midrange boost response gently in high gears when running in D mode to improve fuel economy. We figured that you'd be in DS mode if you wanted to be all sporty.

does this mean you are making the procede aware of which mode the transmission is in? ie - D, DS, or M? and making mapping changes accordingly?

vase330 · 01-21-2010, 04:09 PM

man they better ban this forum at work or I will never get anything done.

its a beautiful time to have an N54....

OpenFlash · 01-21-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mwahlert

does this mean you are making the procede aware of which mode the transmission is in? ie - D, DS, or M? and making mapping changes accordingly?

Been there. Done that already

That's one reason v4 takes on different personalities in different drive modes.

Shiv

prich2004 · 01-21-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vase330

man they better ban this forum at work or I will never get anything done.

its a beautiful time to have an N54....

No kidding! It makes me want to leave early just so that I can update/drive the car! I always have the window minimized and I think I have just about worn out my F5 button (refresh)!

Can't wait to do some data logs tonight!

cstmx_ryder · 01-21-2010, 04:51 PM

So V4 comes with the auto-tune feature that we've been wishing for?

alextremo · 01-21-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The v4 maps will work with ANY version of BMW software. This is because the Procede dictates all aspects of performance in an absolute manner. In fact, you could put a Rev2 on a GIAC stage 1 car and it should work the same as it does on a stock DME. We are no longer applying arbitrary open loop offsets like other piggbacks.

Expect full compatibility with Rixsters gauge once we finalize all the user adjustable settings.

Including Meth flow indicator? That would be nice.

dtp3347 · 01-21-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by prich2004

No kidding! It makes me want to leave early just so that I can update/drive the car! I always have the window minimized and I think I have just about worn out my F5 button (refresh)!

Can't wait to do some data logs tonight!

I've done that a few days in a row now lol

ridin135 · 01-21-2010, 07:31 PM

shiv are these maps still tuned for driveability and not performence.

scottp999 · 01-21-2010, 07:36 PM

Took a test drive on stage 3, very nice! Going to ice and snow later tonight, so no driving the 335 for a couple of days.

OpenFlash · 01-21-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ridin135

shiv are these maps still tuned for driveability and not performence.

Power is there but drivability is still first priority. Still haven't dyno tested any of these maps. Nor have they been tested at the strip (or even thoroughly on a nice stretch of road (due to weather). So power hasn't been optimized at this point. It's supposed to stop raining for a day (this sat) before starting up again on sun/monday. So hopefully I can properly test these suckers. Fingers crossed...

shiv

ridin135 · 01-21-2010, 07:58 PM

I can't wait to try out and see what stage 4 + progressive meth will do

AltecBX · 01-21-2010, 08:50 PM

Is it safe to drop ignition correction on my stock car, v4~Stage 1, when running Sunoco 100 octane?
And what about when running on Shell or Sunoco 93? I notice people are running 91 at 100%.

J x K · 01-22-2010, 01:34 AM

stage 4 map :

Choolgooz · 01-22-2010, 02:24 AM

Wow.. these maps are amazing! The responsiveness is unreal. THANK YOU. Cant wait to see what the final version will be like.

OpenFlash · 01-22-2010, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Choolgooz

Wow.. these maps are amazing! The responsiveness is unreal. THANK YOU. Cant wait to see what the final version will be like.

Funny you mention it... some of the early beta testers like some aspects of previous non-publicly released beta maps better. And I think I see what they mean after comparing them tonight. So expect more maps this weekend because it looks like the roads will be dry for real testing on Saturday!

shiv

scalbert · 01-22-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

At approx 1000 above sea level, I see -1psi. Which means that all the peak boost targets mentioned in first post will be offset by -1psi. This is exactly the opposite of what the stock DME does since the turbos only runs at 5-8psi and has plenty of overhead to spin harder to make up for altitude/thin air.

Must have have a low pressure front come through. The nominal offset at 1000' is about 0.5 PSI; 0.536 to be exact. But obviously this varies with weather.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ai...ure-d_462.html

I was looking at this last night and mine was at -0.8 PSI at 1200' elevation. But a storm front was/is passing through.

scalbert · 01-22-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

some of the early beta testers like some aspects of previous non-publicly released beta maps better.

Just curious, which aspect?

gerardm · 01-22-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Funny you mention it... some of the early beta testers like some aspects of previous non-publicly released beta maps better. And I think I see what they mean after comparing them tonight.
shiv

dtp3347 · 01-22-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Just curious, which aspect?

well one aspect I liked (not necessarily for DDing) was the kick in the ass at >50% throttle

OpenFlash · 01-22-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Just curious, which aspect?

With the last mas, I slowed down the response of boost control system when going from partial load to full load. I based this decision on my personal driving experience with my car. However, my judgment was a bit off because of all the rain we've been getting here in Norcal this past week

Tomorrow is supposed to be dry which means I can redo some things and get things like boost response and partial throttle torque just right. Very soon, all this stuff will be user tunable but we want the baseline maps to satisfy 90% of the needs for 90% of the people so that user adjustments are never necessary. Just a nice icing on the case for those 10% who want to dial the last 10% in to their liking. So far, with the last maps, I've only attempted to satisfied those who drive stg 3 car in raining to flash flood conditions

Shiv

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