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08-31-2008, 04:08 AM | #133 |
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It is coming here for the cheap labor thanks to the US dollar. We are Germany's Mexico and China.
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08-31-2008, 07:37 AM | #134 |
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There was such a funny comment made by the next President the other night, he made a comment about not being able to afford the car an American is driving. Why didn't he just call it what it is? Leasing! |
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08-31-2008, 09:15 AM | #136 | |
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08-31-2008, 09:25 AM | #137 | |
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Styling is subjective. I personally feel now that all of the cars have been "bangled" the entire lineup makes good sense and have moved the game along. It's easy to keep doing the same thing. It takes balls to do something different. Not to mention the Germans running the company could have stopped him at any point but, they apparently trusted him enough to let him go. Also, it's funny how people can overlook Germans doing such a bang up job with these cars lately. Fuel pumps failing left and right, designed and manufactured by Bosch, apparently not tested very well by BMW. Oil coolers left off the certain cars tarnishing the rep by going into limp mode in magazine comparo's, waste gates rattling like crazy (I know they are Mitsu turbos but, again does BMW not test this stuff before release) and my personal pet peeve paint quality that is pretty much inexcusable for a car at this price point. |
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08-31-2008, 09:44 AM | #138 | |
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Stimmt, mein frau ist Deutch. You expect the exactness that Germans are known for. Moving venues will take away from that presumption. Nothing for or against it... I'm just saying. Call it snotty or whatever you like, but "something" will be lost in the move...I'm just saying North Carolina delivery is definitely not going to be anything like ED. That could be a great disappointment. |
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08-31-2008, 10:38 AM | #139 | |
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08-31-2008, 11:27 AM | #140 |
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It only makes sense for BMW to build there most popular car in there biggest market, its just that the car may become too cheap and lose it exclusivity. The 3 series will still get manufactured in Germany for the rest of the world.
At least you guys don't have the problem of the car always getting repriced, our currency is fixed to the U.S dollar and since the the dollar has been losing its value the cars have been slowly increasing. I Bought my car for about 65000 now it cost about 76000, so my car actually appreciated in value since i bought it, if I sell it now I will probably break even. |
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08-31-2008, 11:28 AM | #141 |
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lol this guy.
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08-31-2008, 12:19 PM | #142 |
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Actually, I would _prefer_ to buy a BMW made in the USA.
Please don't get me wrong - my wife said our recent european trip built around a ED 335xi was her "best vacation ever." But I like the idea that a domestic build yields more domestic salaries. It's related to what economists call the "velocity of money" - like purchasing items from a local shop, vs. a chain big-box store, yields more money in local circulation. I know BMW makes their decisions based on profit, and that car buyers will make their decisions based on (perceived) value. But if a big fraction of a car purchase price goes to the salaries of the folks who build it, then I would prefer to pay salaries of my countrymen. Jake |
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08-31-2008, 12:22 PM | #143 | |
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08-31-2008, 01:47 PM | #144 | |
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Much like I bought a WRX in 01 - with the ugliest front end I could remember - not like the old WRX that was released globally circa 1994 - I purchased it for the love of what was underneath the hood - not how it LOOKED or what BADGE was on the vehicle. There was no "evolution" here for BMW design - they brought in a guy who brought in ideas that Honda, Toyota, Hyundai etc had ALL been implimenting for a good 6 years - if you take away the distinctive front grill of a BMW you'd be left with a generic Japanese/Asian look-a-like. There was no genius. And to anybody that owns a E90 sedan or 330i - my condolences - the arse end of those cars are downright disgraceful. If they had the ability to put a 335 engine, chassis, warranty and interior updates in the shell of an E46 M3 - I certainly know what I'd have chosen. If you want an example of what design SHOULD be - go have a look at an Audi S5 - that leaves our 335i's in the dust as far as design goes, that's truly a beautiful car. The good news I believe is that M series cars will ALWAYS be constructed close to BMW Engineering in Germany so they can monitor quality control with greater response. Also - EVERYBODY knows that ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS are NOT EUROPEAN STRENGTHS. You'll always have a pump failure, an electrical glitch etc. I have a mate who has to disconnect his battery if he leaves the car for more than 2 days due to the fact the power seats drain it if he DOESN'T disconnect it. And that's a MERC. The worlds perfect car would have an engine and chassis designed by the Germans, suspension tuned by the British, electrical system design by the Japanese, exterior design by the Italians and BUILD QUALITY DESIGN by the Japanese. At this point in time the ONLY place for the American in this process would be the CONSUMER. Last edited by d_crome; 08-31-2008 at 02:41 PM.. |
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08-31-2008, 02:43 PM | #146 | |
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08-31-2008, 05:41 PM | #148 | |
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Secondly (and yes they are getting better) quality control was lacking in China made products. Ask the conmpanies that were sweating it out when the huge toothpaste recall happened.
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08-31-2008, 06:17 PM | #149 | |
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08-31-2008, 07:23 PM | #150 |
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I am not here to educate the ignorant - so go do some more research and let me know where right-hand drive e92s are built. I already know where left hand ones are built but thanks for your deep insight.
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08-31-2008, 07:42 PM | #151 |
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"For 2011, Volkswagen and (by association)
Audi are working on a new plant in Tennessee that will build the A4 and Q5, among other models, and Mercedes is looking to get C-Class production into the Alabama plant by 2011 as well." SO BMW is not the only one |
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08-31-2008, 09:16 PM | #152 |
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08-31-2008, 10:31 PM | #153 |
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my Z4M was built in the US and its 10 Times better than my piece of sh1t 335 that was built in germany...
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