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05-28-2013, 09:55 AM | #1 |
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Folks who track your cars, get in here!
Posted this in a local group on FB and got some good answers, but not a lot of feedback from other people who track their E9Xs. Wanted to poll a bit bigger board and see if anyone else is doing something similar.
Took my E92 328 to Sebring international raceway this past weekend for a full course DE with a club out of Oklahoma. Really great group of people that welcomed the 3 BMWs at the event (mine, an 06 M5, and a E46M) (this was a Mustang deal). My car is as it was from the factory, save for Motul brake fluid, Carbotech pads, and a fresh .5 qt overfill of M1 oil (Potenza runflats too!) By the end of day 1, I was really getting the car around pretty good, but I noticed that towards the end of the session, oil temps were starting to creep up towards 300*. When this would happen, the shifting got (even more) vague in DS, and the power fell off a bit, but no codes were generated. Day 2, I was driving the wheels off the thing and this was happening every session, but the temps dropped like a rock on the cooldown lap and all was well. Questions:
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If you dont get the answers you want here in the general section, you may need to hit up a thread in the track section.
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05-28-2013, 10:21 AM | #4 |
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Track car or not im sure it was still fun as shit out there in the e92 even if it is stock. So besides the temps everything on the car help up well? Id love to get in on this sometime.
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05-28-2013, 10:26 AM | #5 |
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I've had similar problems on the track, but in my case my oil was heating up to the point where it would go into limp mode. My car is an '07 335i (no oil cooler).
Long story short the 335 wasn't too great of a track car anyway, I much prefer a manual. So except for the occasional track day at the local drag strip, I don't track my 335.
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05-28-2013, 11:04 AM | #6 |
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Since the only real problem I hear you reporting was thermal, I would just get an oil cooler fitted, plus a better trans heat exhanger and call it a day.
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Agree. Has anyone had issues with anything else, like coolant temps? It was 90* out and mine were within normal for what I was doing. |
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05-28-2013, 11:22 AM | #8 |
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I haven't heard as many problems with coolant. Personally if you're concerned about it I would just flush if you haven't recently, and add redline water wetter. Should be enough if you also do the other mods.
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05-28-2013, 01:15 PM | #14 |
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05-28-2013, 02:50 PM | #15 |
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Ronnie, your water pump is failing. Have it and your thermostat replaced stat. Trust me, I've seen this in person with a similarly tracked 328I.
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05-28-2013, 03:15 PM | #16 |
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not good! Coolant temps seemed to be ok...but it wouldn't surprise me, I've been replacing parts left and right as of late.
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06-03-2013, 06:01 PM | #17 |
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I would definitely recommend cooling mods with oil cooler being first followed by an AT transmission cooler for the Steptronic. (I have one of those too).
I realize you have a 328i and its not going to develop as much heat as a 335i but I still would recommend getting a dedicated track car. I know that is not what you want to hear and I did not want to hear that either since there is a large cost to buy one,...even an "cheap" track car like an old E36 M3 or Miata. I wish you luck in your endeavor. Truly I do! However, I will say this again. You will spend more money modding this car to be something it is not than if you just go out and get something you want it to be. Think of all the costs,...2 piece rotors x4, 4 track tires (? +1 spare), race brake pads, track alignment, SS Brake lines, Oil cooler (or 2), tranny cooler, better radiator, better water pump and possibly radiator fan, suspension upgrades like bushings, coilovers, etc. Remember there are also unforseen costs where you will lose money by NOT having a dedicated track car when your car breaks down and you have paid for the HPDE 2 day weekend, trip, hotel, etc and you are watching your friends in their S2000, E36 M3, Miatas. Does it sound like I have been there?....YES. I know others have done it with their E9x. Over 1 year later I FINALLY got my 335i track worthy but WHEN stuff breaks it is also more expensive to fix than any of the other cars I mention. I spent over $12K in mods for my 335i in parts and labor (for the things I could not do on my own) before my wife finally said "You need a dedicated track car". Miatas can be bought for $7K-$10K. A good E36 M3 can be bought for $9K-15K depending on car. Think about it... Just trying to save you the pain and money I went through. Good luck in your decision. N54_Fan |
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06-04-2013, 02:18 AM | #19 |
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Fwiw, i had the exact same issues with my DD 328xi Msport while on track. Oil would overheat and the car would go in limp home mode. After about 1/2 lap, it would cool down enough to be normal again, only to to heat up again and go limp-home until cooling off.
If you are going to get a track car in 6-12months, I'm not sure why you would pour $$$ into c/o, AA tune, etc in your DD 328. |
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06-05-2013, 08:21 PM | #21 | |
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06-06-2013, 10:29 AM | #22 |
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I ran my 328xi at the Summit Point this weekend. Like rheemix I don't have any added cooling mods. I noticed on day 1 of the weekend, on the third set of runs I had some power loss I assume from the oil temps getting high. No other problems during the 7 set of runs I had throughout the weekend.
Tires will help alot. Do you have sport suspension?
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