[pjs]

Adding to the 'performance bargain' tag for me is that it is still a current shape car. Yes, there has been a modest facelift, but a very subtle one. There are plenty of other cars for £10k that are quick or quicker, but cant think of any, of the top of my head, that are as modern, as quick, and with all the kit that most e92's have.

I couldnt hack a 4 pot diesel either, despite doing 25k miles a year.

Still wish they'd hold their value better though (wouldnt we all) . Even though mines Auto, 230's, Prof Nav, HFS, F&R PDC, etc, I cant imagine I'd get more than £12k with 74k miles on. It could well end up being the wifes runabout and I'll get something else.

[gIzzE]

Originally Posted by Dr G13

Lesson learned, I will never buy used again. You end up loosing way more.

I think you need to be fair, you bought your car when used cars were at an all time high, it was never going to sustain though.

In early 2009 cars were so cheap it was untrue, dealers panicked and dumped stock, however, no one was buying new either and after a few months they realised no stock was coming in, so being in such short supply the prices crept up and up then by early 2010 the used prices were horrific.

335i's at 3 years old in 2009 could be had for £12k back then with good spec and really low miles.
By 2010 40k 3 year old cars were back at up £25k, some at £30k.

It is now starting to correct itself again and get more realistic.
Just unfortunate if you bought in 2010.


I bought an A6 3.2 quattro avant in Feb 2009, 2.5 years old, 30k miles with all the toys on it, it was up at £18950 and in the end I paid £12k for it with 4 new Pilot Sport 2s fitted and the Audi Music Interface fitted at a cost of £500.
Sold it last May for £12k.
Bought an E320cdi estate the same time and paid £17k for it, and I would be lucky to see £11k for it now.

Can't worry about it really, £6k over nearly 3 years is not too bad.

However, I am glad I didn't by from Mercedes main dealer as they were asking £22-28k for the same car. Now that would have hurt!

[Dr G13]

Originally Posted by gIzzE

I think you need to be fair, you bought your car when used cars were at an all time high, it was never going to sustain though.

In early 2009 cars were so cheap it was untrue, dealers panicked and dumped stock, however, no one was buying new either and after a few months they realised no stock was coming in, so being in such short supply the prices crept up and up then by early 2010 the used prices were horrific.

335i's at 3 years old in 2009 could be had for £12k back then with good spec and really low miles.
By 2010 40k 3 year old cars were back at up £25k, some at £30k.

It is now starting to correct itself again and get more realistic.
Just unfortunate if you bought in 2010.


I bought an A6 3.2 quattro avant in Feb 2009, 2.5 years old, 30k miles with all the toys on it, it was up at £18950 and in the end I paid £12k for it with 4 new Pilot Sport 2s fitted and the Audi Music Interface fitted at a cost of £500.
Sold it last May for £12k.
Bought an E320cdi estate the same time and paid £17k for it, and I would be lucky to see £11k for it now.

Can't worry about it really, £6k over nearly 3 years is not too bad.

However, I am glad I didn't by from Mercedes main dealer as they were asking £22-28k for the same car. Now that would have hurt!

Yeah, typical my luck I buy when used car prices are at an all time high lol never mind, got to pay to play I guess.

Are 335i values just gonna keep on falling or would keeping my car for another year make more sense? I mean if its worth 12-13k now, it can't fall that much more in a year?

[CarAbuser]

Originally Posted by Nick999

Agreed.. If you want a 3 series coupe, it has to have a big 3.0 engine. If you buy a 2.0 diesel, it's all show and no go. Imagine Porsche doing a 911 2.0D. Will never happen!

I'm always amazed just how cheap a 335i is to run - £453 insurance, £260 road tax. Two yearly service and 30 mpg. Plus shattering performance on tap!! Win!!

But a 911 is a 911.

The 3 series is a medium sized executive car. Paying £400 tax for a sports car is part of the deal but not for your run of the mill daily driver!

[SelSol]

Originally Posted by CarAbuser

But a 911 is a 911.

The 3 series is a medium sized executive car. Paying £400 tax for a sports car is part of the deal but not for your run of the mill daily driver!

I disagree, the 335i is a forty thousand pound car, I wouldn't say thats a run of the mill daily driver, that tag belongs on a Mondeo.

I see the point and the benefits of a 320D, but comparing it to a 335 is just comparing apples and pears.

[RagingKileak]

I predict I will be buying a 2007-8 335i M-Sport Coupe with Nav and low miles in the next 6 months. Remember this thread!!

Matt

[CarAbuser]

Don't get me wrong the 335i is a brilliant car and if I could get insured on one i'd likely be driving one. Infact in a years time when i'm no longer a young driver I may swap into one.

But it's no surprise that the values are falling. The trend so far has shown that fuel/tax/insurance are all heading through the roof so for a twin turbo 3.0 petrol car that means cost hikes on all fronts.

I do agree that there are a lot of people out there doing maybe 6k miles a year that are buying into the 2.0 derv market under misguided pretences.

[buckethead]

most buyers of a 10k car don't want 335i running cost's

if i only did 6k a year i would have one tomorrow, the thing about the 335i it was a 40k car new so its got 40k car running cost's even a set of tyre's would make most 10k car buyers weep.

[jonw]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

i think your error has more to do with buying a used 335i from a dealer and worrying about DVD based Pro Nav which is pooh.

The above combination was never going to work out well.

i have seen 335i private sales with HDD nav going for bargain prices 2-3 years old. Dealers wanted 4-6k more, including some DVD Nav 3 yr old cars just as expensive.

you dont half spout some shite mate.

[Nick999]

Originally Posted by CarAbuser

But a 911 is a 911.

The 3 series is a medium sized executive car. Paying £400 tax for a sports car is part of the deal but not for your run of the mill daily driver!

I dont pay £400 tax, I pay £260.

My 335i M Sport coupe certainly isnt a medium size executive car, it's a high performance sports car. Would never describe it as a run of the mill daily driver, it cost £41k new!!

Please dont confuse a 335i with your 2.0 diesel. They are a million miles apart!
The 335i is a competitor to a 911 3.6 carrera. The 2.0D is a competitor to a mondeo or any other rep mobile, although at least they do have the good looks with out the performance.

[JJD]

Had mine out today and got the chance to have a quick blast on a short section of NSL I had the window down it sounded immense!

Like someone has already said, fuel will need to be a LOT more expensive before I let that put me off.

[RagingKileak]

If I bought a 3 litre, 306 bhp car, then I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to give a fuck what road tax I was paying. It's not a 1.2 Fiesta.

Matt

[jimmylimmy]

Originally Posted by Nick999

I dont pay £400 tax, I pay £260.

My 335i M Sport coupe certainly isnt a medium size executive car, it's a high performance sports car. Would never describe it as a run of the mill daily driver, it cost £41k new!!

Please dont confuse a 335i with your 2.0 diesel. They are a million miles apart!
The 335i is a competitor to a 911 3.6 carrera. The 2.0D is a competitor to a mondeo or any other rep mobile, although at least they do have the good looks with out the performance.

LOL on what planet is a 335i the competitor to a 911? A 335i/d is a fast mid exec and the E92 doesnt handle any better than an e90/91. The 911 is a proper sports car in comparison!

[rogerxp]

Originally Posted by RagingKileak

I predict I will be buying a 2007-8 335i M-Sport Coupe with Nav and low miles in the next 6 months. Remember this thread!!

Matt

It's a good shout mate. When I eventually grow up I might join you (especially if the prices keep dropping ).

[RagingKileak]

Originally Posted by jimmylimmy

LOL on what planet is a 335i the competitor to a 911? A 335i/d is a fast mid exec and the E92 doesnt handle any better than an e90/91. The 911 is a proper sports car in comparison!

Tonys 335i would fuck up many a 911 owners day.

Matt

[jimmylimmy]

Originally Posted by RagingKileak

Tonys 335i would fuck up many a 911 owners day.

Matt

And how much work has Tony done to his car? Even then, its still not a "sports car"

A standard 335i laps the ring in 8:26, 997 Carrera S in 7:50. With all Tony's mods, whats his best laptime?

As accomplished as the 335i is, and it is a performance bargain, it's not a sports car

[RagingKileak]

I wouldn't know, but it was quicker than a Carrera S before he did the Turbos or blueprinting. Also, didn't the R26 Megane do about 8.30 and the R26R less than 8.20?

I've not checked, and nor shall I, but I don't suppose they are sportscars either.... But still quick as/er than the comparison 911.

Matt

[Nick999]

Originally Posted by jimmylimmy

And how much work has Tony done to his car? Even then, its still not a "sports car"

A standard 335i laps the ring in 8:26, 997 Carrera S in 7:50. With all Tony's mods, whats his best laptime?

As accomplished as the 335i is, and it is a performance bargain, it's not a sports car

I'm talking about a 335i M Sport Coupe, not a 335 Diesel SE automatic!!!

Of course its a competitor to a 911.

A 997 Carrera 3.6 has just 320bhp, thats just 14 bbp more than the twin turbo 335i. Infact a simple plug in JB+ will bring the power up to 350bhp for just £180. Then we are talking about 997 Carrera S 3.8 performance.

Personaly I would luv a 997 Carrera. You think the 335i is a bargain, just check out 911 prices on AutoTrader.. But the Missus point blank refuse to even sit in one!!

[dxb335d]

How much are the cheapest Msports now?!

[Nick999]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

How much are the cheapest Msports now?!

You can pick up an early 57 plate M Sport coupe with around 50k miles for £15k these days. Even 08 efficient dynamic models can be had for under £17k

It's the same with all large engine cars at the moment. I know some one who picked up a mint 08 M3 coupe with just 30k miles for £22k a couple of weeks back!

[jimmylimmy]

Originally Posted by Nick999

I'm talking about a 335i M Sport Coupe, not a 335 Diesel SE automatic!!!

Of course its a competitor to a 911.

A 997 Carrera 3.6 has just 320bhp, thats just 14 bbp more than the twin turbo 335i. Infact a simple plug in JB+ will bring the power up to 350bhp for just £180. Then we are talking about 997 Carrera S 3.8 performance.

Personaly I would luv a 997 Carrera. You think the 335i is a bargain, just check out 911 prices on AutoTrader.. But the Missus point blank refuse to even sit in one!!

What does SE/M Sport have to do with performance? You really think a 335i is that much quicker than a 335d?

So a 335i is twice the sports car a Lotus Elise is then? 760li has 540bhp, does that make it a sports car? Is an E92 335i a sports car but a 335i E90 isn't?

Round a track, a standard 335i, or even a JB+ wouldnt see which way a 997 S went.

[Nick999]

Originally Posted by jimmylimmy

What does SE/M Sport have to do with performance? You really think a 335i is that much quicker than a 335d?

So a 335i is twice the sports car a Lotus Elise is then? 760li has 540bhp, does that make it a sports car? Is an E92 335i a sports car but a 335i E90 isn't?

Round a track, a standard 335i, or even a JB+ wouldnt see which way a 997 S went.

Who the UFCK are you? Porsche salesman?