[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

I've datalogged my car with both popular tunes, as well as stock, its good info indeed

[ontopofm]

wow Rix, great discount on group buy there, im going to try to convince my co-worker to get Rev II and dual cones, sorry for OT

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by ontopofm

wow Rix, great discount on group buy there, im going to try to convince my co-worker to get Rev II and dual cones, sorry for OT

SHH!!! don't tell shiv I am giving away his stuff for so cheap!

/OT

[sd390r]

lol $50 off tune isnt too crazy but the intake deal looks nice

intakes are basically all profit anyway though

cant wait until you have the customize feature in the store, looks cool

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by sd390r

lol $50 off tune isnt too crazy but the intake deal looks nice

intakes are basically all profit anyway though

cant wait until you have the customize feature in the store, looks cool

The group buy gets an ADDITIONAL $50 bucks off shiv's original intro price... for a total of $200 off msrp... thats like a deal on top of a deal... not something you see very often. Then add the 100 bucks off the intake onto that, and your saving a pretty nice chunk of change.

The pre-customized feature is worth something as well!

/Threadjack...

[v2bling]

Hey if im using stage 0 with 93 octane what percent should it be at? Also, I dont know what to put on my first and second gear percents.. Can I go higher then the 85 percent you said is good for 93 max? Thanks. Seems really grunty downlow so far. Its been raining

Oh yea, im not making 14.5 boost at all times anymore. Does that mean I can raise values? Or is that just stage 0 boost psi? More like 13 huh?

I think the settings are:

1st gear 85
2nd gear 85

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by v2bling

Hey if im using stage 0 with 93 octane what percent should it be at? Also, I dont know what to put on my first and second gear percents.. Can I go higher then the 85 percent you said is good for 93 max? Thanks. Seems really grunty downlow so far. Its been raining

I think its:

1st gear 85
2nd gear 85

Demo map... user stuff is disabled... just until the final map are done in a week or so...

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

These is only a DEMO map. This means that most of the User Adjustable parameters do not work. Neither does Map-switching. Or Valet mode. So please DO NOT make any User Adjustable changes. Simply upload and drive. Nothing else! No upshift softening changes. No User Torque changes. No valet mode changes. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

[doofus2]

I got a chance to try these maps and firmware last night in the rain and today in the cool dry air. For the runs, my car was stock save a Helene drop-in and the V3. Ambient temperatures were in the mid to low 50s and I was burning Shell's finest 91 octane fuel. Mine is a post-29.2 car, 31.1 precisely.

The good: very snappy low end, strong and smooth top end. Traction is always an issue in first and second.

The not-so-good: I found the throttle-to-boost mapping too aggressive, i.e. too much boost for a given throttle input. I witnessed ~8psi (close to max stock) at approximately half-throttle in the upper rev ranges (peaked at ~14psi full- throttle).

Some folks might prefer this kind of response, but to me it made going from half-throttle to full-throttle feel somewhat flat. In addition, I had to modify my driving style somewhat to accommodate the "early" thrust.

Ideally, production maps will have less of the "not-so-good" while preserving the "good".

My Tune History
Ever since I joined this community (a few months before picking up my car) I'd been yearning for a Vishnu tune. The buzz surrounding Vishnu's latest was always nigh irresistible.

The barrier to entry for me was always price. So, while I pined away and shopped for a used PROCede, I ran JuiceBoxes of every ilk (yes, all the way back to the TerryTuner).

Finally, in the first week of August, I sated my Vishnu jones with a used PROCede (V2) and a new PnP V3 harness. I was one of the first production PnP customers.

I had some issues with the early versions of V3: high-boost-high-RPM bobbles, less-than-advertised peak boost, one SES instance (probably due to an incomplete firmware update), and general COMS flakiness when datalogging and flashing. I was receiving some spotty support for these issues from Vishnu when the JB3 became available, so I swapped out the V3 for the JB3. So, until yesterday, I'd been running the JB3 (one of the 1.2 betas).

Tune Comparison
I think it's probably too early to tell. JB3 1.0, 1.1, and the 1.2 betas have shown steady improvement. The issues some have had with partial-load thrust oscillation should be bygones soon, and the lagfix maps have low-end response that's very similar to this V3 demo, which shows real progress from August. If you're on the fence, wait a month for the next round of reviews.

[m5driver77]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

I've datalogged my car with both popular tunes, as well as stock, its good info indeed

Nice discounts mate! SHit i placed order and payed last week. 1400 USD (both race and gauge)

sniff!

[Panoz]

reminder...

Originally Posted by Panoz

Master Shiv ....

"Give nonDoomsday maps to your people

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Panoz

reminder...

No problem. I'll post up nonDD Demo maps on Monday. Just want to do some more testing this weekend.

Shiv

[phattbam]

finally uploaded these demo maps.

WOW!!! this thing is very torquey no. I felt the kick in the low range and I love it. feels like the power will put to good use.

you got PM Shiv

[Andras]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

No problem. I'll post up nonDD Demo maps on Monday. Just want to do some more testing this weekend.

Shiv

+1
let the dude take his time, none of us would trade a safe tune for our impatience, wouldn't we?

[nlowell]

Wow! Not sure what else to say. I've read the 9 pages of posted reviews and I don't know what other value I can add because I agree with all of the good stuff. This update is amazing! Power is smooth and delivered strong. I feel like a broken record when talking about Shiv's tune updates because each is incrementally better but this tune seems to the the biggest update yet. Hard to really let lose with this damn rain though

Instead of flying to L.A. next week, I'm considering driving now!

[Nikos335i]

Originally Posted by Panoz

reminder...

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

No problem. I'll post up nonDD Demo maps on Monday. Just want to do some more testing this weekend.

Shiv

Now we are talking!!!

Originally Posted by Andras

+1
let the dude take his time, none of us would trade a safe tune for our impatience, wouldn't we?

Where is your Gilles spirit Andras?

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by doofus2

Some folks might prefer this kind of response, but to me it made going from half-throttle to full-throttle feel somewhat flat. In addition, I had to modify my driving style somewhat to accommodate the "early" thrust.

Ideally, production maps will have less of the "not-so-good" while preserving the "good".

In the future you will be able to adjust it to your liking.

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by Hit_Apex

Data interests a few of us on this board. Links?

Specifiy what data and you may actually get it; including other tunes.

I'm picking up another PROcede later today from a member to allow for easier comparison testing.

[Andras]

Originally Posted by Nikos335i

Where is your Gilles spirit Andras?

The DareDevil from Quebec used to enjoy racing a lot.
Without a reliable engine there would have been very little for him to enjoy

[cn555ic]

wow!!! Can't wait till Monday for these NON-DOOMSday maps, I love the new maps but for some reason its making my exhaust seem louder than normal...I am hoping that the Non doomsday maps will make my exhaust sound like the old 11-14 maps! Maybe it just in my head though, but I love the performance of the demo doomsday maps, can't imagine the non ones!

[Andras]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

wow!!! Can't wait till Monday for these NON-DOOMSday maps, I love the new maps but for some reason its making my exhaust seem louder than normal...I am hoping that the Non doomsday maps will make my exhaust sound like the old 11-14 maps! Maybe it just in my head though, but I love the performance of the demo doomsday maps, can't imagine the non ones!

can't wait to have my AE exhaust "louder than normal"

I think in 5 minutes I'll have cops all over the entrance of my garage

[getInline]

Originally Posted by doofus2

...and general COMS flakiness when datalogging and flashing.

To eliminate the flakiness, follow ALL of these guidelines:

• Make sure you're not using vista (use XP or a Mac)
• Make sure you're either plugged in or if running on batteries you're in full performance mode and not a balanced or battery saving mode (this can affect USB devices)
• Make sure you have a good USB->Serial adapter with a driver disk. I know the one from Radio Shack works. My other generic one was totally unreliable.

[NM_BMW]

Originally Posted by getInline

To eliminate the flakiness, follow ALL of these guidelines:

• Make sure you're not using vista (use XP or a Mac)
• Make sure you're either plugged in or if running on batteries you're in full performance mode and not a balanced or battery saving mode (this can affect USB devices)
• Make sure you have a good USB->Serial adapter with a drive disk. I know the one from Radio Shack works. My other generic one was totally unreliable.

Vista will work as long as you disable the power saving mode.

Both the Radio Shack and the Tripplite adapters work well. Both are available at Radio Shack, but the Radio Shack model comes with a 6ft cord so you don't have to buy an extension if your planning on putting it into your glove box which is highly recommended.