[dr.skp.ortho]

Hi all,

Sorry if this is a "basic" question but it seems to me that the people on this forum have a lot more knowldge than the sales persons

I have just completed 13,500 awesome kays in my 335i. On the dash when I start her up the service icon appears with 14,000km and 01/2010.

Does this mean I need to have a service AT 14,000km or in ANOTHER 14,000km i.e. at approx 27,500km?

Thanks in advance

[1q2w3e4r]

An additional 14k. Hence why it says Jan 2010

[WOPALX]

Even if you wait another 14K at least do the right thing by your motor and have the oil changed.

[ANILE8]

'Official' BMW service intervals are way too long and far apart IMHO

[docbeemer]

Originally Posted by WOPALX

Even if you wait another 14K at least do the right thing by your motor and have the oil changed.

Unless you're on a lease and couldn't care less what happens in 3-4 years time because you won't own the car anyway. Don't waste your money. But if you plan on keeping the car, do it earlier.

[powers493]

Originally Posted by WOPALX

Even if you wait another 14K at least do the right thing by your motor and have the oil changed.

It amazes me that people do not understand what they are paying for when they buy a BMW. We are talking about BMW here not those poor excuses for a car like holden. The oil used in these engines (if serviced by a dealer) is co-developed by BMW with Castrol. It is designed to properley lubricate, clean and cool the engine throughout its entire service life (look at your CBS). We are no longer in the age of changing oil every six months because we no longer use those types of oil.

Feel free to change your oil before it is due. But while you are at it you should probably replace your 50% worn tyres because they are no longer as effective as providing grip as they were when first worn in. Same goes with the brake pads and discs. You could even change your spark plugs every time you use your vehicle but im guessing you wouldn't, why...because there is absolutely no need and a waste of money.

btw... don't take this reply personally, I dont mean to be one of those people that harras users when ever they ask a question but hopefully a few people read this and take notice

[Chris.G]

[WOPALX]

Originally Posted by powers493

We are no longer in the age of changing oil every six months because we no longer use those types of oil.

Yes we use a fully synthetic long life oil that still deteriorates like the older oils, just over longer periods. But is it really 3x or 5x better ? Personally I'd rather not gamble with an engine that would cost 40% of the cars value to replace....

Every time you drive your car and the engine gets hot the molecular properties of the oil deteriorate, it absorbs wear metals and other things like a small % of fuel. Over time it does it's job less effectively.

Do a and you will see many of the Yanks have done oil testing from their 335's with results showing significant degradation of the oil over a very short period.

Personally I'll change my oil more frequently as I want my car to have as good internals as possible. In any case IMHO any longer than 15,000km or 12 months is too long between oil changes.

Likewise I will also have my diff and tranny oils replaced at regular intervals, despite BMW saying they are not necessary.

[VGR00]

Originally Posted by powers493

The oil used in these engines (if serviced by a dealer) is co-developed by BMW with Castrol.

Ummm .... what makes you think this is true - the advertising in the BMW magazine?. On my last invoice from Brisbane BMW where I had an oil change done (every 15,000klms) it stated that they used Shell Helix Ultra.

For each their own but I never skimp on spending money on maintainance. an oil change at the dealership only costs $150 (inc filter) and I can feel and hear the difference in an engine with fresh oil. I have no doubt that you can go 40,000ks between oil changes but when your car has 110,000klms on it and you develop an engine problem, are BMW or Castrol going to provide you warrenty? I dont think so!

[Tintin]

my three year old E90 with 25,000ks has only had one service (exc the 1,000 k check up).

I have another 6mths and 20,000 ks to go before another one is required.

[NaTuReB0Y]

i received free oil changes at 20,000+ and 40,000+ miles..........

but i do my own oil change every 5k miles........$45 DIY.....BUY, not leased.

If my car was leased.......i could careless if BMW made the oil lifetime......like the transmission fluid......

i can almost guaranteed.....if BMW did not offered the free maintenance program.....
they would recommend an oil change every 3,000 miles or 3 months......hahaha!

[1q2w3e4r]

Originally Posted by vgr02

Ummm .... what makes you think this is true - the advertising in the BMW magazine?. On my last invoice from Brisbane BMW where I had an oil change done (every 15,000klms) it stated that they used Shell Helix Ultra.

For each their own but I never skimp on spending money on maintainance. an oil change at the dealership only costs $150 (inc filter) and I can feel and hear the difference in an engine with fresh oil. I have no doubt that you can go 40,000ks between oil changes but when your car has 110,000klms on it and you develop an engine problem, are BMW or Castrol going to provide you warrenty? I dont think so!

Might want to check with BMW M Owners. Specified oil used it Castrol TWS Motorsport, developed by Castrol specifically for BMW M engines. There was a time up until about 18 months ago you could only get it locally via a dealer, independent workshops didn't have access to it. So its not as far fetched as it sounds.

[Sherweeeny]

why waste extra money on un-necessary maintenance? just do as the dealer tells you.

plus who gives a shit, hopefully it is bad for the car and 10 years down the track when all the hectics are using them to cruise george st as they can now afford them, they will simply blow up.

hell dont even service the bloody thing hahaha

[Chris.G]

Originally Posted by Sherweeeny

plus who gives a shit, hopefully it is bad for the car and 10 years down the track when all the hectics are using them to cruise george st as they can now afford them, they will simply blow up.

"Hectics" hahaha

You are so right, i have seen enough e36's with tragic paint jobs and chrome wheels to give me nightmares for the rest of my life.

[powers493]

Originally Posted by 1q2w3e4r

Might want to check with BMW M Owners. Specified oil used it Castrol TWS Motorsport, developed by Castrol specifically for BMW M engines. There was a time up until about 18 months ago you could only get it locally via a dealer, independent workshops didn't have access to it. So its not as far fetched as it sounds.

Thank you, I now have one believer. Like I said this is BMW not holden

Its your money not mine. But dont forget to do your spark plugs every couple of months esp all the s85 boys, $800 a set, oh boy