Non-directional 19" options? long life?

Murph335 · 06-28-2010, 08:30 AM

Before I go falken 452's like most ppl are there any non-directional tires out there?
Sizes I will need are...
265/30.19
235/35.19

I was watching that show motorweek and they showed a continental tire that was non directional!
Was it the new conti extreme contact dw or dws?
They look to have the longest life rating too?

Normally tires will go bald on the inside first in the rear, wasting them.
I live in arizona, snow use is not a concern.

Goal is to find a non directional tire to get the most wear out of, and something with long life.

GreenPlease · 06-28-2010, 10:51 AM

I'm 90% sure the DWS is directional.

Bartman619 · 06-28-2010, 12:12 PM

I'm in the same boat as you, andthat tire didn't look like the DW, actually looked like the ContiSportContact3 which has about the same wear rating as the FK452, but cost $275.00/235 fronts and $322.00/265 rears at Tirerack. The other only non direction tires I know are Nitto INVO and Vredestein Sessanta Ultrac and both have about a 280 wear rating.

vampie · 06-29-2010, 03:52 PM

I have the Continental ExtremeContact DW tires and they are not directional.

I had the Falken 452's before. They were ok on the track, but after a year the noise on the freeway was unbearable. I trashed them before they reached the wear bars. You get what you pay for I guess.

Gary@TireRack · 06-30-2010, 07:17 AM

Neither the DWS nor the DW tires are directional.

Bartman619 · 06-30-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary@TireRack

Neither the DWS nor the DW tires are directional.

Sweet!! i guess i'll be getting a set of DW's in a couple of months.

remmib · 06-30-2010, 11:35 AM

Why get non-directional if you want long life tread wear?
If you get directional, you'll be able to swap them left to right so that the worn inside of the tire gets on the outside and the not so worn outside get on the inside.

Murph335 · 07-01-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by remmib

Why get non-directional if you want long life tread wear?
If you get directional, you'll be able to swap them left to right so that the worn inside of the tire gets on the outside and the not so worn outside get on the inside.

From what I understand the benefit of non directional I can just swap the wheels over in my garage. In addition these tires should last much longer, possibly 2x or 3x based on the tread ratings. I am more likely to rotate reguarly further extending life.

Directional I need to bring to a tire shop, have the tires taken of each rim and re mounted, also run the risk of a tire shop scratching/damaging the rims with each time. Refurb wheels are never the same in my experience.

Express · 07-01-2010, 08:30 AM

and if you use non directional and you swap them in your garage, you are just putting the inside back on the inside, but on the other side.

right?

Murph335 · 07-01-2010, 09:17 AM

True, you have both options.

lonestar22 · 07-01-2010, 10:58 AM

Avon Tech M550. cheaper tire but they have massive grip and they literally last forever. they usually last me about 2.5 years which is more than i can say for any other tire ive owned

remmib · 07-01-2010, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murph335

From what I understand the benefit of non directional I can just swap the wheels over in my garage. In addition these tires should last much longer, possibly 2x or 3x based on the tread ratings. I am more likely to rotate reguarly further extending life.

I don't see the benefit, regarding thread wear, of swapping your wheels from one side to the other.

Express · 07-01-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by remmib

I don't see the benefit, regarding thread wear, of swapping your wheels from one side to the other.

thats because there is none. i think the OP is confused about directional vs non directional.

Murph335 · 07-12-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by remmib

I don't see the benefit, regarding thread wear, of swapping your wheels from one side to the other.

Yeah dont know why I was thinking it would be a huge advantage. Just thrown by the marketing hype.

Very happy with staggered nitto invo's on the wife's ride, quiet soft, sticky.

I am going to try a set of the Continental DW since I live in the desert and the wear rating seems higher. Also, I heard non directionals are quieter as the tread gets worn vs. a directional, true not true doesnt really matter.
i definitely like the rubber band look little bit of sidewall pull.

Every car I have done research on has 235/35 up front on a 9" rim including the eurotuner feature this month.

My car has HR sport spring, front rim spec is 19x 9 +30
Debating to go with 225/35 or 235/35 upfront will either make a difference in rolling the fender?
pros ?
cons ?

Murph335 · 07-13-2010, 07:22 PM

ordered 225/35 front conti DW today

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