Is the 335i better on vpower?

Dann · 06-23-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AWSAWS

Yes ethanol is a very easy way to boost the octane and now the EU is making it mandatory. The detergents going into some supermarket fuels were not popular, foaming up in the tank and coating spark plugs orange. This was more what I had interpreted as crappy fuels. While experts like Shell were crafting nice mixes with less imposing detergents in their V power fuels. The orginal vpower didn't contain ethanol apparently and was just a good blend of hydrocarbons. You can't avoid ethanol these days. Big subsidies, cash filling pockets etc. means it's here to stay for now and it'll probably only increase. The G7 have agreed no fossil fuel usage by something like 2100AD.

By 2100AD we'll have been overrun by machines anyway

windymissile · 06-24-2015, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by djgandy

I was referring to cheap supermarket fuel. I wasn't referring to momentum which is a more premium product. Considering that cheap fuel is meant to be 95 RON or thereabouts can contain 10-15% ethanol, it makes you wonder how crappy the gasoline they mix it with is! It's probably around 92-93 RON.

I think E6-7 is a little high for a premium fuel imo, although these days the EU imposes a minimum of 5% ethanol for all fuels IIRC. Traditionally high octane fuel was higher grade gasoline, not just mixed with ethanol to boost its octane content. I was going to make the point that the high octane rating of momentum is probably just because its cut with more octane booster AKA ethanol.

If you are able to test, it would be interesting to see what normal tesco fuel is. If their premium is E6, I bet their cheap crap is E10 at least.

Next time i'm filling the jerry can for the mower I will be testing.

WM

Soul_Glo · 06-24-2015, 12:48 PM

I've only ever used v power for the past 4 years. I even go as far as planning my routes so there is a shell enroute.

Thermobaric · 06-24-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Broken_Gearbox

I've only ever used v power for the past 4 years. I even go as far as planning my routes so there is a shell enroute.

What kind of MPG are you getting?

Rory · 06-24-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Broken_Gearbox

I've only ever used v power for the past 4 years. I even go as far as planning my routes so there is a shell enroute.

Wow that's devotion right there!

Ash-335i · 06-24-2015, 04:31 PM

I've owned my 335i for 4.5 months and have only ran it on V Power. It performs great and on runs (going easy, sticking to the speed limits) I have had 34mpg. Can't complain.

myboris · 06-24-2015, 05:45 PM

I have had problems with a very intermittent long crank start. It has now disappeared since I switched to Tesco Momentum.

MattOz · 06-25-2015, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by myboris

I have had problems with a very intermittent long crank start. It has now disappeared since I switched to Tesco Momentum.

Mine has done that on a couple of occasions. However, it's more like to be HPFP than the fuel itself. I'm going to get BMW to take a look next time it's in. Could be a warranty job........

Soul_Glo · 06-25-2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Thermobaric

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Originally Posted by Broken_Gearbox

I've only ever used v power for the past 4 years. I even go as far as planning my routes so there is a shell enroute.

What kind of MPG are you getting?

Check the mpg thread but mine is 23 in town and 32-34 on motorway

AWSAWS · 06-25-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dann

By 2100AD we'll have been overrun by machines anyway

Yeah, I doubt my 335 will be running by that point. If so it'll be a classic car

myboris · 06-25-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MattOz

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Originally Posted by myboris

I have had problems with a very intermittent long crank start. It has now disappeared since I switched to Tesco Momentum.

Mine has done that on a couple of occasions. However, it's more like to be HPFP than the fuel itself. I'm going to get BMW to take a look next time it's in. Could be a warranty job........

Yeh that's what I did. Said there was nothing wrong with the HPFP, said it was 2 faulty injectors but of course they had to change all 6 and injectors rant covered on BMW named components warranty and the bill would be £1200. Would love to have know if it would have been the same outcome if I had the fully comp warranty.
Needless to say I have tried every fuel and Momentum works best for me and is about 13p a litre cheaper than V Power

Rory · 06-26-2015, 02:23 AM

First thing I've noticed on vpower is the idle is smoother - on 95 Ron I could feel the idle through the car a little, not misfiring but just tiny vibrations - I'm super sensitive , or paranoid lol.

Since running on vpower I can't feel anything at idle, it's smoother.

AWSAWS · 06-26-2015, 04:55 AM

Vpower in winter would sometimes give me the erratic idling on a cold start. Rev hunting.

I have video of it somewhere. The car sometimes would shake and the CEL come on.

M3 owners had reported the same on an M3 site.

HighlandPete · 06-26-2015, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rory

First thing I've noticed on vpower is the idle is smoother - on 95 Ron I could feel the idle through the car a little, not misfiring but just tiny vibrations - I'm super sensitive , or paranoid lol.

Since running on vpower I can't feel anything at idle, it's smoother.

First time I filled with Vpower in the 535i, I noticed the smoother idle when I parked up, further along the trip. It was as if the engine had stalled, it was so sweet.

I can't get Vpower locally, Esso or BP are my usual fills.

HighlandPete

Rory · 06-26-2015, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AWSAWS

Vpower in winter would sometimes give me the erratic idling on a cold start. Rev hunting.

I have video of it somewhere. The car sometimes would shake and the CEL come on.

M3 owners had reported the same on an M3 site.

That's really weird, did anybody find out why it caused that?

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Ash-335i Private First Class 8 Rep 167 Posts Drives: F11 535i M Sport Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I've owned my 335i for 4.5 months and have only ran it on V Power. It performs great and on runs (going easy, sticking to the speed limits) I have had 34mpg. Can't complain.
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Rory Lieutenant 93 Rep 299 Posts Drives: E92 335i SE 6MT Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 Z4 3.0 6MT [0.00] 2007 335i 6MT [0.00]	First thing I've noticed on vpower is the idle is smoother - on 95 Ron I could feel the idle through the car a little, not misfiring but just tiny vibrations - I'm super sensitive , or paranoid lol. Since running on vpower I can't feel anything at idle, it's smoother.
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