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Consensus on best MTF for California weather? Redline MT-90/MTL/D4 ATF/D6 ATF?
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07-14-2014, 01:11 PM | #1 |
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Consensus on best MTF for California weather? Redline MT-90/MTL/D4 ATF/D6 ATF?
Hi all,
Looking to try to smooth out my 1-2 shift. Know this topic has been beaten to death, but have read every single thread on here about manual transmission fluids and haven't been able to find a consensus. Any advice for my E92 6MT? From what I can gather, in order of most viscosity to least, it's: Redline MT-90 Redline MTL Redline D4 ATF Redline D6 ATF More viscosity = better protection, but may run into increased notchiness in cold climates. Royal Purple Synchromax now recommended for our E90 transmissions, but smoothness effect disappears after a few months. I'm leaning towards MT-90 or MTL, but don't have enough info to differentiate the two. Would also consider Amsoil MTF if anyone has any input. Bottom line: what would safely give me the smoothest shifts in moderate California weather? Thanks to all. |
07-17-2014, 09:53 AM | #2 |
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Hi, here's my experience. I have an E90 335i 6Mt with 45K Miles and 1-2 shift was a little notchy as well. I intended to swith to Redline D4 as is slightly thicker than OEM, but once I was in the shop I decided to go with MTL as the D4 had not arrived in time to the shop.
Conclusion : I'm glad I switched to MTL instead of D4 or D6. It feels only slightly thicker than OEM and is smoother for the 1-2 shift, but I can still feel a little notchiness. I'd say it improved the feel by 30%, so not a night and day thing. Also important to note : I replaced OEM trans support to RE support at the same time. I now feel a little more NVH in the shifter, but only because I'm paying attention : I'm sure my wife wouldn't notice. I feel this has helped too as the shifting action feels more solid, especially when shifting quickly in the higher revs (I'm running Cobb stage 2+) Overall I'm very happy with the change so far, but remember I have not yet ran this setup in canadian winter so I might change my tune in January ! For you being in California, I would not hesitate to go with MTL. To significantly improve 1-2 feel, I would also push to MT90. |
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07-18-2014, 10:58 PM | #4 |
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Hi concorde, thank you very much for that response. That's exactly what I was looking for. For me it was between the redline MTL and Amsoil MTF. Decided to go with the Amsoil since it is just a bit less viscous than the MTL, yet still thicker than D4/D6. Expect it will perform very similarly to your MTL, but was just a bit closer to stock specs. Getting the flush next week, will report back on my results with the Amsoil MTF.
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07-28-2014, 08:20 PM | #5 |
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I was going to do D6 but I decided to get the dedicated MT fluid and bought Redline MTL. I'm doing it this weekend (hopefully) so I'll report back. I'm in FL, so similar weather to CA
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08-02-2014, 01:21 PM | #6 |
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FWIW, on my 09 335i 6MT, I had my fluid changed at 50k mi with the stock fluid (MTF-LT-3), and now at 68k shifting feels exactly the same (no deterioration). I will be changing MT fluid again in about 10k miles. I'm under warranty and wanted to keep it stock for now.
I know LT-3 is thinner, probably similar to Redline D6 but I haven't seen an official spec for the LT-3, just one virgin oil analysis. There is very little information to be had about this. Not sure what the pros/cons of going to a thicker MT gear oil would be. It's possible that the LT-3 is just to improve gas mileage for BMW's CAFE issues. The E9x M3 uses the same transmission but specs MTF-LT-2.
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10-26-2014, 02:55 PM | #7 | ||
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Any updates? I'm running D4, brilliant when new, but it thins out after a couple of summers in Phoenix (on my 2nd change now.) Need a longer lasting gear oil. |
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