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01-03-2013, 05:28 PM | #23 |
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Are you looking for a complete piping replacement like the ETS kit?
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01-03-2013, 06:38 PM | #24 |
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just something to open it up at least a bit, all new piping would probably be the best solution though
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01-03-2013, 07:23 PM | #25 |
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I have VRSF look good and does a good job I'm just trying to make new piping b4 the summer
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It comes with the piping and mounting brackets already....I am running the same kit with no issues... So, for the core, mounting brackets, and cold/hot side piping its all under $600 *Keep in mind others have said these bigger units experience a higher pressure drop and may not be as efficient as other units on the market...Its your choice to make...
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01-03-2013, 09:13 PM | #29 |
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I have an hpf from lutz, good bunch to work with and love the hpf unit. That being said, several cheaper options exist that did not when I got my hpf, so might make a different decision now!
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01-03-2013, 09:39 PM | #31 | |
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01-03-2013, 09:47 PM | #32 |
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The CX racing FMIC blocks too much of the radiator imo. Also it doesn't have much depth, all you're really getting is a large surface area. That's why I'm getting a helix, best of both worlds because of the stepped design.
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01-03-2013, 09:52 PM | #33 |
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Dps have nothing to do with lowering IATs, but u should get those as well lol.
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01-03-2013, 10:03 PM | #34 | |
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the helix one does like real nice though
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01-03-2013, 10:05 PM | #35 |
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Dp's will give you a nice hp gain though... If you're looking to just lower iat's get a good fmic and then do meth
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01-03-2013, 10:11 PM | #36 |
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well ya i knew that lol, i just figured that catless dp's would help to utilize a bigger intercooler better because the turbo's would be spooling up faster but i guess what everyone is saying is that big tom's is even to big for that. Which is why the helix is the perfect size (or the aa race) unless you go with an aftermarket turbo set up.
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01-03-2013, 10:28 PM | #37 |
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I'd go with the Helix. It fits the available space perfectly and has a large frontal area to keep temps low. Matches up with the factory fan seal real nice. Much larger than the stock IC but not overly large so pressure drop can stay low. Even if you decided to go with a turbo upgrade you would still be good with the Helix.
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01-04-2013, 12:22 AM | #38 | |
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It's got the biggest air volume increase out of all of the aftermarket fmic's, which means better cooling than the other options. You also don't have to cut at all, which not only makes install easier but utilizes the plastic to direct air right to the Fmic. The other fmic's that require cutting get rid of this air guard, essentially letting a lot of the air go around the Fmic. Oh and whomever made the depth comment, it's actually better to have more frontal area than depth. The cores are usually made deeper due to space constraints. This is another plus for helix and the cx racing one as well. Look at the 1000hp+ supra guys, they would laugh at you if you said depth is more important than frontal area. They all run tall cores with depths of 3 to 4 inches. And like Benzy said, don't cheap out on doing an Fmic. Really isn't worth the few hundred. I won't name names but a lot of these newer aftermarket brands use cheap eBay cores with not a lot of r&d behind them. |
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01-04-2013, 12:41 AM | #39 | |
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Core Type Core Size End Tank Design Piping Trimming/Install Ease Quality Credibility Reputation Purpose (Street/Race) Climate Pressure Drop (although not much of a concern for this platform) Digging Deeper: Core Quality Weld Quality Fit and Finish Optional Shrouding That is very detailed way of looking at it though and it might confuse or scare people. 9/10 intercoolers available are better then stock so most are an improvement for anyone. For those that like to knit pick at the details they are more then welcome to. The reality is if you put up one intercooler up against the next the differences will be negligible as there are so many factors, especially in a single gear pull. Difference between tunes, wastegate duty cycles, ambient temps, heat soak, and other differences in modifications and turbo wear will all change variables. The reality is one can expect about 15-20WHP from intercoolers. What they will also find is lower IAT, and more consistency from back to back pulls. Bigger cores will have less tendency to heat soak and therefore will be more consistent pull to pull. They are ideal for track users are people in hot climates. I'm sure this won't be the last intercooler thread but maybe this post might help some questions or just make things more complicated |
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01-05-2013, 01:35 PM | #40 |
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i was in your same boat for a while and the more i read the more i leaned towards the HPF IC, just simply because of quality/size/gains/ease of installation (doing it myself). all those factors made me pull the trigger ob the HPF, and for a plug and play intercooler where you dont need to change hoses or any tubing you cannot beat the HPF.
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01-05-2013, 10:48 PM | #43 |
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01-06-2013, 08:37 AM | #44 |
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Not sure about code 3 (specifically) but I purchased mine new just a couple months ago. Several websites have the Spearco available and it does come with the boost tube. My only complaint is the "spearco" writing on the front in blue. Personally I would prefer no writing so I eliminated it.
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