DSC unit failure @ 60k miles...

J4MES · 06-15-2009, 10:15 AM

Anyone else had their DSC unit fail (mine's a Dec 05/55 320d E91 SE) at a cost of £1712?? Fortunately I had an RAC extended warranty... and I'm still waiting for them to pay up after two weeks (Dick Lovett wouldn't release the car without payment, the warranty co. wouldn't stump up first..

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E92Fan · 06-15-2009, 10:17 AM

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Anyone else had their DSC unit fail (mine's a Dec 05/55 320d E91 SE) at a cost of £1712?? Fortunately I had an RAC extended warranty... and I'm still waiting for them to pay up after two weeks (Dick Lovett wouldn't release the car without payment, the warranty co. wouldn't stump up first..

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I haven't heard of many DSC units failing completely on later cars - maybe on the earlier ones the hydraulic pump might fail? There have been the odd ABS sensor failure, but that certainly doesn't cost £1,712. I'd be interested to see the breakdown of the invoice, to see what they've costed for. If you can get a scan, and if you don't mind, PM me the details??

J4MES · 06-15-2009, 10:49 AM

Sure - one DSC hydraulic unit @ £1239.13 pus £249.60 for labour, plus VAT (it breaks down labour into programme/encode control unit, initialise s/roof and power windows, and set compressor inlet).

The service receptionist knew what it was straight away when I described which lights were on the dash (yellow brake warning light and dsc light iirc)... so it may not be uncommon.

smallbore · 06-15-2009, 01:26 PM

Yes mine failed and the dealer confirmed it was very common on 05 vehicles. They replaced ECU for free under warranty. Heard of lots of people having same problem and dealers negotiating down to maybe £100 or so.

Bob M

J4MES · 06-15-2009, 01:31 PM

Why did they replace the ECU?

jjbirch · 06-15-2009, 04:31 PM

i had the same too at 30k and i have a remap, same thing yellow light came up they knew what it was,but they had to recode the car, and i lost my map lol

smallbore · 06-16-2009, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by J4MES

Why did they replace the ECU?

The DSC ECU replaced. I'm not a techy, but I am told we have multiple ECUs now.......

Regards

Bob M

Mud · 06-16-2009, 03:34 AM

Yep I have seen quite a few complete DSC unit failures (hydro pump), the cost you paid is about right. I paid £1500 after soem goodwill discount.

The Swindon BMW actually said they keep this part in stock, as they have changed so many!

J4MES · 06-19-2009, 10:38 AM

Weirdly the service indicator dropped from 12000 to 5000 miles after the work was done... find out tomorrow why. I'm guessing they can't just 're-set' this to 12k as it's done prognosively (if that's even a word)?

magic77 · 06-19-2009, 03:52 PM

doh and there was me thinking getting a new LCI model would be less troublesome than my old e46 - doh

Marco77 · 06-20-2009, 04:04 AM

Yip same thing happend to mine. Was called to say it was the hydro pump or something like that and that its quite expensive to fix. I told him i don't care its under warraty.

Man you got to love warranties when you need them.

J4MES · 06-20-2009, 08:29 AM

Yep - just got my £1712 back. RAC warranty was £299 well spent then. Turns out the front pads have 4-5k miles left in them, which is why the service indicator came on. £100+VAT/hr for labour though? No thanks, I'll fit them myself...

E92Fan · 06-20-2009, 08:32 AM

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Yep - just got my £1712 back. RAC warranty was £299 well spent then. Turns out the front pads have 4-5k miles left in them, which is why the service indicator came on. £100+VAT/hr for labour though? No thanks, I'll fit them myself...

Remember to get a new wear sensor as well as you will need to replace and fit that, and then get an independent to reset the brake service indicator to 100% otherwise the car will show a red "service now" icon. Also make sure that the piston seal on the caliper is still intact and in good working order. When was the last brake fluid change done on your car? If it's around two years ago, you'll need to do that too. Castrol Super Response Dot 4 is around £10 per litre from Opie Oils - you'll need three bottles.

J4MES · 06-28-2009, 03:26 PM

Thanks - I'll make sure I get those done too. Dick Lovett are happy to re-set the system for me once I've done the work, which is nice!

TMP · 06-28-2009, 03:43 PM

As E92Fan suggested, any failures on recent cars or is this just on 05's?

My 530d (55plate) had a DCS fail as well, fixed under warranty lucikly.

BEE EM · 06-30-2009, 04:10 PM

I had my Hydraulic unit replaced by BMW at a cost of £1660.34. My car was four months out of warranty and had 54k on the clock at the time. I hope the new unit is more durable than the first one.

MEGA · 06-30-2009, 04:20 PM

Thats infuriating and horrible luck. I hope to god mine never goes although atleast I have a years bm extended warranty to play with when my main one runs out next month...

BEE EM · 06-30-2009, 04:40 PM

I am being wise after the event and am thinking of taking out an extended warranty apart from the BMW one is the one from warrantydirect any good?

neo871 · 07-01-2009, 12:58 AM

I've had a minor issue with the DSC computer but not a total failure....

MEGA · 07-01-2009, 03:29 AM

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I am being wise after the event and am thinking of taking out an extended warranty apart from the BMW one is the one from warrantydirect any good?

Use RAC, I've heard a few people have issues with warrantydirect. Sort of a case of get what you pay for

BEE EM · 07-01-2009, 03:44 PM

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Use RAC, I've heard a few people have issues with warrantydirect. Sort of a case of get what you pay for

Hi MEGA
Thanks for the advice any idea how much the rac warranty is likely to be?

Neil McRae · 07-03-2009, 05:01 AM

Tesco warranty is pretty good also, 400quid for most BMWs (apart from M series)

Neil.

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J4MES my name is James 15 Rep 71 Posts Drives: '09 E91 LCI 330d M-Sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Behind you... iTrader: (0)	Sure - one DSC hydraulic unit @ £1239.13 pus £249.60 for labour, plus VAT (it breaks down labour into programme/encode control unit, initialise s/roof and power windows, and set compressor inlet). The service receptionist knew what it was straight away when I described which lights were on the dash (yellow brake warning light and dsc light iirc)... so it may not be uncommon. __________________ 330d LCI M-Sport Touring f/s - PM for details
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smallbore New Member 1 Rep 21 Posts Drives: 320d xDrive & X1 2.0d xDrive Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northamptonshire, UK iTrader: (0)	Yes mine failed and the dealer confirmed it was very common on 05 vehicles. They replaced ECU for free under warranty. Heard of lots of people having same problem and dealers negotiating down to maybe £100 or so. Bob M
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J4MES my name is James 15 Rep 71 Posts Drives: '09 E91 LCI 330d M-Sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Behind you... iTrader: (0)	Why did they replace the ECU? __________________ 330d LCI M-Sport Touring f/s - PM for details
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Mud Captain 37 Rep 698 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: England iTrader: (0)	Yep I have seen quite a few complete DSC unit failures (hydro pump), the cost you paid is about right. I paid £1500 after soem goodwill discount. The Swindon BMW actually said they keep this part in stock, as they have changed so many!
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J4MES my name is James 15 Rep 71 Posts Drives: '09 E91 LCI 330d M-Sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Behind you... iTrader: (0)	Weirdly the service indicator dropped from 12000 to 5000 miles after the work was done... find out tomorrow why. I'm guessing they can't just 're-set' this to 12k as it's done prognosively (if that's even a word)? __________________ 330d LCI M-Sport Touring f/s - PM for details
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Marco77 Private 0 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 320d Msport Touring Japan R Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0)	Yip same thing happend to mine. Was called to say it was the hydro pump or something like that and that its quite expensive to fix. I told him i don't care its under warraty. Man you got to love warranties when you need them. __________________ Touring sold parts for sale
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J4MES my name is James 15 Rep 71 Posts Drives: '09 E91 LCI 330d M-Sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Behind you... iTrader: (0)	Yep - just got my £1712 back. RAC warranty was £299 well spent then. Turns out the front pads have 4-5k miles left in them, which is why the service indicator came on. £100+VAT/hr for labour though? No thanks, I'll fit them myself... __________________ 330d LCI M-Sport Touring f/s - PM for details
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J4MES my name is James 15 Rep 71 Posts Drives: '09 E91 LCI 330d M-Sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Behind you... iTrader: (0)	Thanks - I'll make sure I get those done too. Dick Lovett are happy to re-set the system for me once I've done the work, which is nice! __________________ 330d LCI M-Sport Touring f/s - PM for details
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TMP Brigadier General 349 Rep 3,022 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	As E92Fan suggested, any failures on recent cars or is this just on 05's? My 530d (55plate) had a DCS fail as well, fixed under warranty lucikly. __________________ M2 Arrived! Family 5er
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BEE EM Enlisted Member 3 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 520d SE Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: KENT iTrader: (0)	I am being wise after the event and am thinking of taking out an extended warranty apart from the BMW one is the one from warrantydirect any good?
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