ar or rr catted downpipes?

King335i · 05-11-2009, 11:54 PM

Can anyone make a reference to an example of people talking about the problems they've had with the RR dp's? I have a catted set of them just sitting in the box here and I've been contemplating having them installed. Should I not?

I searched for threads on this subject but didn't find any.

shawshank772 · 05-12-2009, 12:00 AM

Try searching on 1addicts.com One guy did a review of ALL his RR headaches. He had some good pictures of the o2 sims hitting eachother as well.

lpphreakx06 · 05-12-2009, 12:07 AM

That guy might have been in WA too...

shawshank772 · 05-12-2009, 12:15 AM

Here is the link that has been locked

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...ghlight=review

King335i · 05-12-2009, 12:44 AM

Well, the guy did say that the shop that installed the DP's said his install was inconsistent their previous RR DP installs..

Damn, dunno, I'd like to believe that they'll work just fine with no errors, fitment or otherwise. Is there any more evidence to the contrary?

shawshank772 · 05-12-2009, 06:55 AM

I dont know man. I can say this about the RR cat back exhaust for the 135i. I had a reputable shop do mine and at first the only thing they had to do was bang the heat shield up in a few places so it did not hit it. HOWEVER, after I drove it for 5 minutes and the car heated up, because of thermal expansion it started to hit again. So they then had to modify the brackets instead of beating the shit out of my heatsheild. Now..I can tell you for a fact I dont think ANYONE has EVER had a RR exhaust that went on with no fitment issues. I have had exhausts on 4 of my other cars. NONE of which EVER had a problem bolting right on to the factory position with out modification. I can honestly say I do not think I would purchase from them again after seeing that the exhaust didnt bolt right up and everyone has a problem with them...and if you look at their intake plenum that thing looks like SHIT if you look at the welds. They were good guys to deal with but I am just unsure of their products.

ultimateendz · 05-12-2009, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by shawshank772

I dont know man. I can say this about the RR cat back exhaust for the 135i. I had a reputable shop do mine and at first the only thing they had to do was bang the heat shield up in a few places so it did not hit it. HOWEVER, after I drove it for 5 minutes and the car heated up, because of thermal expansion it started to hit again. So they then had to modify the brackets instead of beating the shit out of my heatsheild. Now..I can tell you for a fact I dont think ANYONE has EVER had a RR exhaust that went on with no fitment issues. I have had exhausts on 4 of my other cars. NONE of which EVER had a problem bolting right on to the factory position with out modification. I can honestly say I do not think I would purchase from them again after seeing that the exhaust didnt bolt right up and everyone has a problem with them...and if you look at their intake plenum that thing looks like SHIT if you look at the welds. They were good guys to deal with but I am just unsure of their products.

well i have had a much different situation with them...i ordered my DPs on 3/2...basicaly was told 4 weeks...im like ok thats cool...so now its 4/15 and im like hmm...no DPS...here was the message i sent and the reply...

me:4/27

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Originally Posted by ultimateendz
Im really starting to get worried about my catless downpipes order now because they definately should have been ready by now...the last message that was sent to me said they would be ready to ship "soon". That was 2 weeks ago. Its just about May now and my order is reaching beyond 2 months now...I wouldnt be as upset about this if I could get a definate time frame as to when I would be getting my downpipes but havent gotten that and also you guys havent answered the last message I sent to you either. Im almost certain **********s forgot about my order at this point because it has taken so long and now i might have problems with them because of this. I would really appreciate a reply back, I dont wanna believe you guys are a bad company like some people say here on the forum and I know you guys make quality products because my friends have them so can you please let me know whats going on with these downpipes?

thanks in advance

RR on 4/28

Quote:

Hello,

I am sorry about the dealy on the downpipes. I assure you nobody has forgotten about your order. We have been working hard on finishing this run of downpipes for the clients whom have ordered. You business is very important too us. We should be ready too ship them in 12 days. If there is any dealy or they ship sooner I will personally notifiy you of any changes. Please email me anthony@rissracing.com with your contact information. Thank you for your support!

guess what no phone call...but not surprised

now i called them yesterday since 12 days ended then and guess what they told me...10 more days!!!!.....i tried to be as patient with them as i could be but this is getting pretty ridiculous...and i hope RR sees this cause they just lost a customer....AR design dp FTW!!!!

ar design · 05-12-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ultimateendz

AR design dp FTW!!!!

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-12-2009, 09:27 AM

+1

ultimateendz · 05-12-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ar design

Craig told me you would send me a set by friday...i really appreciate that bro...a little customer service goes a long way

shawshank772 · 05-12-2009, 01:45 PM

RR really needs to pull their heads out of their ass. My exhaust took forever to get to me also. Supposedly it was instock and ready to ship..Well it took 3 weeks to get to me. Hell I ordered it and I beat the damn exhaust home and I was coming from fricken IRAQ!! I had everything set up to be ready when I got home and have it put on right away...but because of their delay I had to continually push back the install dates. I hate to bad mouth them and have kept my mouth shut for a while..but come on guys!! Ok thats all I will say so this thread can die.

socalsun · 05-26-2009, 07:36 PM

Go with AR, I have catless with BMS sim, its the way to go, sounds amazing, never had any lights flash. I have to take mine off to pass shitty California smog test, but don't worry, they will be back on!

Wickede92 · 05-26-2009, 08:11 PM

whats ftw?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-26-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by socalsun

Go with AR, I have catless with BMS sim, its the way to go, sounds amazing, never had any lights flash. I have to take mine off to pass shitty California smog test, but don't worry, they will be back on!

+1

Mike

Lowcruzr · 05-27-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickede92

whats ftw?

For The Win. Dumbest acronym in forum-land if you ask me.

ultimateendz · 05-27-2009, 10:35 AM

Go with AR Design man...I just got mine put in a couple weeks ago and fitment was perfect...I gotta give props to these guys...they even respond to my PMs...I ordered a set of RR cat-less downpipes march 2nd and they still arent here...I have been more than patient will them but this is rediculous...they really need to get their heads out of their asses...They kept telling me "soon" and "if these arent ready by X date then i will call you personally"...BS...I hope RR sees this and address my problem with them cause I tried to do this through PM but now im letting everyone know...And I have the PMs to prove it...

bulldog_yyc · 05-27-2009, 11:15 AM

AR all the way, made in the USA too

ar design · 05-27-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by turkish335

AR all the way, made in the USA too

Drakos · 05-27-2009, 03:19 PM

Just ordered mine from Mike. I can hardly wait

How do the 02 sims install? Is one end connected to the bung and the other end to the ecu?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-27-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakos

Just ordered mine from Mike. I can hardly wait

How do the 02 sims install? Is one end connected to the bung and the other end to the ecu?

You ordered the BMS o2 sims, so they connect in the ECU. 3 wires. They are completely independant of the downpipes. They tap the signal at the ECU!

Just noticed in your sig that you have a JB3, so the sims will connect into the PnP harness! Refer to the attached PDF!

Mike

MFKN3 · 05-28-2009, 06:44 AM

Will these fit right-hand-drive cars?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-28-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xsboost

Will these fit right-hand-drive cars?

I believe so, but I will let Andrew confirm!

Mike

05-11-2009, 11:54 PM	#45
King335i Captain 47 Rep 726 Posts Drives: '13 E92 M3 CP 6MT, '13 X1 35i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon iTrader: (1)	Can anyone make a reference to an example of people talking about the problems they've had with the RR dp's? I have a catted set of them just sitting in the box here and I've been contemplating having them installed. Should I not? I searched for threads on this subject but didn't find any. __________________ 2007 E92 335i--SG, Fully loaded, minus the dead weight..err..iDrive and Active Steering.
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05-12-2009, 12:07 AM	#47
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05-12-2009, 12:15 AM	#48
shawshank772 Major 120 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: 08 135i and 16 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	Here is the link that has been locked http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...ghlight=review
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05-12-2009, 12:44 AM	#49
King335i Captain 47 Rep 726 Posts Drives: '13 E92 M3 CP 6MT, '13 X1 35i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon iTrader: (1)	Well, the guy did say that the shop that installed the DP's said his install was inconsistent their previous RR DP installs.. Damn, dunno, I'd like to believe that they'll work just fine with no errors, fitment or otherwise. Is there any more evidence to the contrary? __________________ 2007 E92 335i--SG, Fully loaded, minus the dead weight..err..iDrive and Active Steering.
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05-12-2009, 06:55 AM	#50
shawshank772 Major 120 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: 08 135i and 16 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	I dont know man. I can say this about the RR cat back exhaust for the 135i. I had a reputable shop do mine and at first the only thing they had to do was bang the heat shield up in a few places so it did not hit it. HOWEVER, after I drove it for 5 minutes and the car heated up, because of thermal expansion it started to hit again. So they then had to modify the brackets instead of beating the shit out of my heatsheild. Now..I can tell you for a fact I dont think ANYONE has EVER had a RR exhaust that went on with no fitment issues. I have had exhausts on 4 of my other cars. NONE of which EVER had a problem bolting right on to the factory position with out modification. I can honestly say I do not think I would purchase from them again after seeing that the exhaust didnt bolt right up and everyone has a problem with them...and if you look at their intake plenum that thing looks like SHIT if you look at the welds. They were good guys to deal with but I am just unsure of their products.
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05-12-2009, 09:27 AM	#53
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05-12-2009, 01:45 PM	#55
shawshank772 Major 120 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: 08 135i and 16 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	RR really needs to pull their heads out of their ass. My exhaust took forever to get to me also. Supposedly it was instock and ready to ship..Well it took 3 weeks to get to me. Hell I ordered it and I beat the damn exhaust home and I was coming from fricken IRAQ!! I had everything set up to be ready when I got home and have it put on right away...but because of their delay I had to continually push back the install dates. I hate to bad mouth them and have kept my mouth shut for a while..but come on guys!! Ok thats all I will say so this thread can die.
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05-26-2009, 07:36 PM	#56
socalsun poor 7 Rep 136 Posts Drives: Girl's XC90 Join Date: May 2009 Location: VT iTrader: (3)	Go with AR, I have catless with BMS sim, its the way to go, sounds amazing, never had any lights flash. I have to take mine off to pass shitty California smog test, but don't worry, they will be back on!
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05-27-2009, 10:35 AM	#60
ultimateendz Vengeance is mine, I shall repay 132 Rep 4,656 Posts Drives: X3, CTS-V coupe Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	Go with AR Design man...I just got mine put in a couple weeks ago and fitment was perfect...I gotta give props to these guys...they even respond to my PMs...I ordered a set of RR cat-less downpipes march 2nd and they still arent here...I have been more than patient will them but this is rediculous...they really need to get their heads out of their asses...They kept telling me "soon" and "if these arent ready by X date then i will call you personally"...BS...I hope RR sees this and address my problem with them cause I tried to do this through PM but now im letting everyone know...And I have the PMs to prove it... __________________ Project: Vengeance[ACM's King of domestics, STOCK:501whp 489wtq \| 2.9L whipple stock bottom end: 706whp 688wtq] Callies Compstar motor build:NEXT
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05-27-2009, 03:19 PM	#63
Drakos Lieutenant 64 Rep 534 Posts Drives: 2022 G42 M240i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	Just ordered mine from Mike. I can hardly wait How do the 02 sims install? Is one end connected to the bung and the other end to the ecu?
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05-28-2009, 06:44 AM	#65
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