Metallic Ticking noise coming from engine?

team753 · 05-30-2008, 05:52 PM

can any BMW technicians tell me what is the procedure to replace the lifters,or the
cylinder head.do you have to drop the engine out to gain access,or is everything done from the top.

jcrwu · 06-03-2008, 10:41 PM

Quick update. It's been a week after the cylinder head was replaced and so far the ticking noise is gone. The engine purrs...

CYM07 · 06-04-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jcrwu

Quick update. It's been a week after the cylinder head was replaced and so far the ticking noise is gone. The engine purrs...

So if I am right the ticking noise for you came even while you are driving, even when the car is warmed up? I have the same ticking noise, but only when the engine is cold and it goes away when the engine is warm. Is this the same problem that everyone has or different?

Arrowhead · 06-04-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CYM07

So if I am right the ticking noise for you came even while you are driving, even when the car is warmed up? I have the same ticking noise, but only when the engine is cold and it goes away when the engine is warm. Is this the same problem that everyone has or different?

how long does the enigne tick? 10-15mins? And does the ticking speed up while u give more gas? If u do, welcome to the club.

jcrwu · 06-05-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CYM07

So if I am right the ticking noise for you came even while you are driving, even when the car is warmed up? I have the same ticking noise, but only when the engine is cold and it goes away when the engine is warm. Is this the same problem that everyone has or different?

So far, the ticking noise is totally gone. Cold engine, warm engine, idle, increased RPMs...the ticking noise is totally gone. It's only been a week but so far, the ticking noise is totally gone.

rce90 · 06-05-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jcrwu

So far, the ticking noise is totally gone. Cold engine, warm engine, idle, increased RPMs...the ticking noise is totally gone. It's only been a week but so far, the ticking noise is totally gone.

Thats good. Did the dealer say anything about the head replacement. Is it different from the factory head, if so what's different about it.

CYM07 · 06-05-2008, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Arrowhead

how long does the enigne tick? 10-15mins? And does the ticking speed up while u give more gas? If u do, welcome to the club.

It only ticks when the engine is cold and it does it ocassionally, not all the time. I actually do not know if the ticking noise increases with speed. The only reason i hear the noise is either when I am in my garage and the ticking noise could be heard cus it echos or when I am at at stop light in between two cars and the ticking noise would echo in between the two cars. What's wierd is it only does it ocassionaly like last week it did it, but today, the car was normal

2008 323i · 06-09-2008, 01:36 PM

after 3 weeks of waiting BMW is replacing my head on the 2007 328i
what parts should be looked at and changed?
I just want ot make sure it all done right!!!
please send me a list anyone

F32Fleet · 06-09-2008, 02:00 PM

Ticking was mentioned in roundel and it appears to effect a/t cars more than manual because the A/T's generally drive at lower rpms. This was in addition to the short urban commutes at low rpms which our engines are generally not designed to excel at.

BK · 06-09-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Socom

Ticking was mentioned in roundel and it appears to effect a/t cars more than manual because the A/T's generally drive at lower rpms. This was in addition to the short urban commutes at low rpms which our engines are generally not designed to excel at.

That's it. I'm driving home in 2nd gear the whole way to keep my engine healthy.

Sadly, with the traffic around here, on many days I could do that without hitting the rev limiter.

flicks28 · 06-10-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Socom

Ticking was mentioned in roundel and it appears to effect a/t cars more than manual because the A/T's generally drive at lower rpms. This was in addition to the short urban commutes at low rpms which our engines are generally not designed to excel at.

Can you post the article here or a link where i can find it? I would like to read it. Thanks.

jcrwu · 06-11-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rce90

Thats good. Did the dealer say anything about the head replacement. Is it different from the factory head, if so what's different about it.

I didn't ask but I can try and followup with the tech in a few weeks

jcrwu · 06-11-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2008 323i

after 3 weeks of waiting BMW is replacing my head on the 2007 328i
what parts should be looked at and changed?
I just want ot make sure it all done right!!!
please send me a list anyone

I posted my parts list earlier:

(1) 11-12-1-557-208 CYLINDER HEAD WITH VALVE
(1) 11-12-7-548-799 SET BOLT CYLINDER HEAD
(1) 11-12-0-392-547 SET OF ALU. SCREWS
(3) 11-12-7-521-167 ASA-STUD BOLT
(2) 11-36-7-524-954 COLLAR SCREW
(1) 11-12-7-555-757 CYLINDER HEAD GASKET
(1) 11-12-7-548-921 GASKET SET CYLINDER HEAD
(2) 11-12-7-529-997 TORX SCREW
(2) 13-62-7-530-413 TORX SCREW
(5) 31-10-6-772-199 HEXAGON SCREW WITH FLANGE
(6) 33-32-6-768-354 HEX SCREW WITH COLLAR
(4) 31-10-3-411-647 HEXAGON SCREW WITH FALNGE
(6) 31-10-6-772-199 HEXAGON SCREW WITH FLANGE
(6) 33-30-6-772-888 HEX BOLT WITH WASHER
(1) 11-42-7-566-327 SET OIL FILTER
(7) 07-51-0-017-866 OIL 5W30 SYNTHETIC
(1) 82-14-1-467-704 ANTIFREEZE
(1) 11-28-7-530-314 MECHANICAL BELT TENSIONER
(1) 11-12-0-409-288 SET OF ALU. SCREWS
(1) 11-61-7-547-242 SET OF PROFILE GASKETS
(4) 18-30-1-737-774 HEX NUT
(1) 32-10-6-776-664 DAMPING CLIP

F32Fleet · 06-12-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by flicks28

Can you post the article here or a link where i can find it? I would like to read it. Thanks.

It appeared in Tech Talk of this months Roundel. There was no fix other than the bleeding process which has been described here ad nausum(sp?).

Mike Miller, of course, said he knew this would eventually happen when BMW moved to hydraulic(sp?) lifters.

The irony is that our cars at meant to be drivin fast, and most who can afford them live/work in dense urban environments.

Arrowhead · 06-12-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Socom

The irony is that our cars at meant to be drivin fast, and most who can afford them live/work in dense urban environments.

Now everyone needs to drive like we stole it! And tell those pigs that we have to speeding, otherwise car is gonna tick and blow.

It is all BMW's fault, not us!

2008 323i · 06-19-2008, 08:50 AM

just got my new heads installed. they are just putting my car back together. the question I have is what was changed? I got to see both they look the same. The unit that came was complete heads lifter cam etc.
anyone have this answer??? also pic's of what was changed?

rce90 · 06-20-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 2008 323i

just got my new heads installed. they are just putting my car back together. the question I have is what was changed? I got to see both they look the same. The unit that came was complete heads lifter cam etc.
anyone have this answer??? also pic's of what was changed?

Yeah i'd like to know too. So about 3 weeks since the PUMA case was opened and up to now when you got the new head. Oh man, i guess i better be patient. They opened a PUMA case for me too.

bmer1961 · 06-23-2008, 03:46 AM

i am in malaysia and i cant believe that after the first case since what a year ago?, this issue is still not fixed???
my car is currently in the dealership with a PUMA case (loss of power, ticking) . its a 2008 e90 320i sports assembled in malaysia. my hopes are not high. i am demanding a new engine or car. its got only <2000km on it and less than a month old.

rambalu80 · 06-30-2008, 04:15 PM

@ jcrwu:

I guess it has been a month since they replaced the cylinder head. Did this correct the ticking noise?

I have scheduled my second appointment for this issue. Last time they did the bleeding procedure and the noise had reduced for a couple of weeks. It has been about 5-6 weeks now and the noise is louder than ever now. I called my SA and he asked me to schedule an appointment and bring the car in but the earliest appointment I could get was the 17th of July.

rce90 · 06-30-2008, 04:57 PM

After going in for the same problem for the 2nd time, they opened a PUMA case for me. My SA said if it comes back (the tapping) be sure to bring the car back ASAP. He said they bled it again and the tapping was gone, and i was thinking that's all you guys did? Sure enough as the lot porter was pulling up my car it was tapping/ticking. I was pissed!! So i went back to the the service dept. called my SA over and he heard it. He called the shop foreman and he heard it too. But here's what the foreman said. "We've opened up the PUMA case for you and if you're still unhappy with the car bring it back. However I advise you to drive the car more since it only has 3k miles on the odo." He also said it is a problem and not really. It's just the lifters bleeding down I was like WTF?? He said that yes it's a problem because it makes that tapping/ticking noise, but it won't really hurt the engine. He admitted that BMW has not found a solution to the problem. I said are you sure?? Ok so I thought, let's give it a try and decided to have my wife drive the car since her commute is about 20 miles one way to work. Sure enough it's been 2 weeks and I haven't heard the tapping/ticking sound since. But as soon as it does, it's going back to the dealer right away.

rambalu80 · 07-01-2008, 08:36 PM

Sounds like the some X3's have this issue as well:

Haywire · 07-04-2008, 10:14 PM

i have a 2oo8 328i... and ive had this ticking the past few weeks. someone JUST referenced me to this thread. i have a soft tick on idle, on start up... when i rev up, the ticking does too.

this thread doesnt have me all that optimistic.

fu@k.

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2008 323i Private First Class 4 Rep 100 Posts Drives: 2008 335i E90 A22 sport pac Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: calgary canada iTrader: (3)	ticking just got my new heads installed. they are just putting my car back together. the question I have is what was changed? I got to see both they look the same. The unit that came was complete heads lifter cam etc. anyone have this answer??? also pic's of what was changed?
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bmer1961 New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: malaysia iTrader: (0)	i am in malaysia and i cant believe that after the first case since what a year ago?, this issue is still not fixed??? my car is currently in the dealership with a PUMA case (loss of power, ticking) . its a 2008 e90 320i sports assembled in malaysia. my hopes are not high. i am demanding a new engine or car. its got only <2000km on it and less than a month old.
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rambalu80 Major 78 Rep 1,240 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW 340i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Katy TX iTrader: (2) Garage List 2016 BMW 340i [0.00]	@ jcrwu: I guess it has been a month since they replaced the cylinder head. Did this correct the ticking noise? I have scheduled my second appointment for this issue. Last time they did the bleeding procedure and the noise had reduced for a couple of weeks. It has been about 5-6 weeks now and the noise is louder than ever now. I called my SA and he asked me to schedule an appointment and bring the car in but the earliest appointment I could get was the 17th of July.
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rce90 Private 3 Rep 61 Posts Drives: 2008 328i Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rancho Cucamonga iTrader: (0)	After going in for the same problem for the 2nd time, they opened a PUMA case for me. My SA said if it comes back (the tapping) be sure to bring the car back ASAP. He said they bled it again and the tapping was gone, and i was thinking that's all you guys did? Sure enough as the lot porter was pulling up my car it was tapping/ticking. I was pissed!! So i went back to the the service dept. called my SA over and he heard it. He called the shop foreman and he heard it too. But here's what the foreman said. "We've opened up the PUMA case for you and if you're still unhappy with the car bring it back. However I advise you to drive the car more since it only has 3k miles on the odo." He also said it is a problem and not really. It's just the lifters bleeding down I was like WTF?? He said that yes it's a problem because it makes that tapping/ticking noise, but it won't really hurt the engine. He admitted that BMW has not found a solution to the problem. I said are you sure?? Ok so I thought, let's give it a try and decided to have my wife drive the car since her commute is about 20 miles one way to work. Sure enough it's been 2 weeks and I haven't heard the tapping/ticking sound since. But as soon as it does, it's going back to the dealer right away.
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rambalu80 Major 78 Rep 1,240 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW 340i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Katy TX iTrader: (2) Garage List 2016 BMW 340i [0.00]	Sounds like the some X3's have this issue as well:
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Haywire Haywire, brand new BMW owner :D 28 Rep 782 Posts Drives: 328i coupe Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ontario iTrader: (0)	i have a 2oo8 328i... and ive had this ticking the past few weeks. someone JUST referenced me to this thread. i have a soft tick on idle, on start up... when i rev up, the ticking does too. this thread doesnt have me all that optimistic. fu@k.
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