[markham335i]

Hi All,

Iv saved up some spending money and decided that i'm going to treat my car to something for Christmas. I think im going to go with the vargas stage 2 (not the + as i heard I will need to do a lot of internal work). I just have some questions for you guys!

1) Where should I get these installed / how much should I budget for instal

2) Should I spend the extra money on the stage 2+. Im not looking for anything crazzzzy fast, just to take my car to the next level.

3) Iv done some research about meth and upgraded turbos on this forum, in your opinion do you think it is mandatory to add meth when upgrading turbos? I rather not.

4) What kind of gains should I be hoping for? with my current set up (listed in signature)

5) Should I wait for boxing day / closer to Christmas to purchase these (will these go on sale)?

any other input would be greatly appreciated

thank you!

[playground]

I don't wanna say too much but, I am saying no to Vargas.

[dtea604]

Have you consider rbs ?

[markham335i]

Iv considered both yes. A local shop recommended me go with Vargas as the stage 2s are flawless, as well as another forum member.

[kstylez]

Why not single?

[markham335i]

a bit expensive for me to go the single turbo route. Also id like to keep the stock frame etc.

[Zebra99]

Vargas Stage 2+ all day. Plenty of N54's running well over 500whp with no internal work. Our engines are already sleeves and structurally strong inside so no big deal.

If you don't like meth don't run it. With the upgraded turbos you can still make 500whp no meth