Mate at work just bought a 2010 M3 Frozen edition

Sparky68 · 03-08-2013, 05:18 PM

Not even driven it yet and says it will do a 335i [ with JB4,DCI etc] in a straight line.

True?

djgandy · 03-08-2013, 05:34 PM

I'd prob favour the 335i. The M3 weighs around 100kg more than the 335i I think. Also the M3 lacks torque in the low RPM's although it probably has shorter gearing.

0-60 the M3 will have better traction, but it has to get all the way to 8000rpm before it can shine. Depends on the race type I guess, and what gearbox you have!

G82Dude · 03-08-2013, 05:42 PM

Be interested to see how the paint finish is holding up...?

The_Bear_Yid · 03-08-2013, 05:47 PM

I would say true. Spoke to someone who owns both, and while the 335 is standard, they said the M3 was in a different league.

Nigelo · 03-08-2013, 05:51 PM

Stock 335i, yes of course - its 100 bhp shy and equal peak torque (although much more peaky in the M3!)

JB4, dci, downpipes and FMIC .... altogether different, and in a straight line id say the 335i would win.

RIDERDIE · 03-08-2013, 06:08 PM

Through watching youtube over the past year it looks like a modded 3 can take an M off the start then the M hunts it down and smashes the 3's usually.

Kerr · 03-08-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky68

Not even driven it yet and says it will do a 335i [ with JB4,DCI etc] in a straight line.

True?

He might get a shock.

A 335i with JB4 and downpipes can get into the 12s on the standing quarter.

Any of the E92s M3s I've seen are always in the 13s and usually mid 13s too.

Sparky68 · 03-08-2013, 06:38 PM

Well we now have a £100 bet!

Nigelo · 03-08-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RIDERDIE

Through watching youtube over the past year it looks like a modded 3 can take an M off the start then the M hunts it down and smashes the 3's usually.

Usually if the 335i is tune only that seems to be the outcome - particularly if the M3 is a dct model.

Add downpipes and a uprated intercooler and the tables get turned again. Could come down to who has the better gear changes just.

AlanYoro35i · 03-08-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky68

Well we now have a £100 bet!

Ask him if he wants to make it 2 bets i don't mind getting a full tank of fuel?? book a date to the pod !! watch him moan saying you have mods lol

Sparky68 · 03-08-2013, 06:51 PM

oh he has alrady said i have to run map 1! He has know way of knowing i will run map 5 however!

Now just got to sort my boost leak lol!

this is now a e90post mission, cure my boost leak!

CarAbuser · 03-08-2013, 07:14 PM

I'd think the launch would be the deciding factor.

What transmission do you each have?

HeavyRightFoot · 03-09-2013, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by uke92dude

Be interested to see how the paint finish is holding up...?

This.

MEGA · 03-09-2013, 02:27 AM

Diff means he will muller you on proper twisties or a track.

You will probably win off the line

dxb335d · 03-09-2013, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerr

He might get a shock.

A 335i with JB4 and downpipes can get into the 12s on the standing quarter.

Any of the E92s M3s I've seen are always in the 13s and usually mid 13s too.

Kerr a E9X M3 doing mid 13's is a poorly driven one! I've done a 13.3 in my boggo standard E46 and think I can run quicker. (witnessed poorly driven ones doing 14+ for years)

The M3 is hard to extract the maximum from. But they can do a 12.7-12.8 1/4's

But a well driven 335i with JB will beat mr average in an m3, get an M3 driver who knows how to maximise it an I think those 414 ponies will shine through and it will be quicker rolling 80+mph

Amini77 · 03-09-2013, 02:53 AM

It'd be a very very very close race. Money is on the 335 on a straight..but in a track ///M POWEEERR!!! Either way I'd still take an M3 over a 335..its an ///M...and its frozen grey. hawt.

phil200tdi · 03-09-2013, 03:14 AM

I doubt anything less than a stage 2 335i manual with open diff would take an m3 DCT (with launch control) from a standing start over a quarter mile.

From a roll stage 1 gets close but is still slower..

Dct makes a huge difference in both gearing and super quick shifts...

RagingKileak · 03-09-2013, 03:20 AM

What about a fully modded 335i (except meth, diff, suspension) WITH DCT?

Matt

E92Dan · 03-09-2013, 03:22 AM

0-60 doesn't interest me. Owning an M3 would though

idnan · 03-09-2013, 04:24 AM

Mark has an auto which is quicker than a manual 335i so has a good chance. Although the DCT boxes change really fast which can make up for a bit of time. Want to borrow mine?

Billyray911 · 03-09-2013, 04:53 AM

Make sure you film it for prosperity and bragging rights-not that you'd want to rub his face in it...much!

dxb335d · 03-09-2013, 05:05 AM

If he can't drive you will muller him.

Try rolling 50, make sure M3 is in 2nd though. Then rolling 80 with M3 in 3rd.

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djgandy Colonel 146 Rep 2,337 Posts Drives: E93 M3 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: London iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 M3 [0.00]	I'd prob favour the 335i. The M3 weighs around 100kg more than the 335i I think. Also the M3 lacks torque in the low RPM's although it probably has shorter gearing. 0-60 the M3 will have better traction, but it has to get all the way to 8000rpm before it can shine. Depends on the race type I guess, and what gearbox you have! Last edited by djgandy; 03-08-2013 at 05:42 PM..
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CarAbuser Lieutenant Colonel 468 Rep 1,536 Posts Drives: Z4 35i DCT / E92 335i DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	I'd think the launch would be the deciding factor. What transmission do you each have?
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